AMD Could Name "Fiji" Based Dual-GPU Graphics Card Radeon R9 Gemini

[btarunr]

AMD's dual-GPU graphics card based on a pair of "Fiji" GPUs could be named the Radeon R9 Gemini, after the Greek-Roman mythological figures and twins Castor and Pollux, sometimes referred to as the "Gemini twins." This is consistent with AMD naming its single-GPU flagship product based on this chip after Furies. The term "Gemini" as associated by AMD to describe this product first came to light when an engineering sample making its way through India was parsed through the country's overly transparent customs, where its shipping manifest read "FIJIGEMINI." The same description also mentions that the sample had its cooling solution installed, so it can be assumed that the prototype AMD CEO Lisa Su held up at the company's "Fiji" silicon unveil event has matured into a mass-producible product.



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[john_]

They can call it George if they want to. Let's hope it will have enough availability and the price is reasonable. Let's also hope we don't get a second thread "Sorry, guys, no review sample for us".

 

[$ReaPeR$]

this will probably be able to handle 4k very easily. and with 2 8pins the power envelope will likely be around the 275w mark i suppose. hope they make it water cooled, an air cooled version is not worth the price point this will hit imo.

 

[Shihab]

the price is reasonable.

If you don't mind dropping $1500 on a single card, yes, it'll be reasonable.

Assuming AMD doesn't pull an Nvidia *cough*Titan Z*cough*

 

[AsRock]

If you don't mind dropping $1500 on a single card, yes, it'll be reasonable.

Assuming AMD doesn't pull an Nvidia *cough*Titan Z*cough*

Yeah but saves ya hell of a lot of money if your in to this as buying nVidia it probably cost 2k+ lmao

 

[RejZoR]

It would make sense to stack 2x R9 Nano cores on such card.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Better than calling it X2 or 2X. I like it.

If you don't mind dropping $1500 on a single card, yes, it'll be reasonable.

I wouldn't expect any less than $1000 for these cards. Reasonable? Not for me but I say the same about Fury.

 

[Luka KLLP]

I want to be hopeful and say that since AMD and NVidia are both coming out with a dual GPU card they will be competitively priced, but seeing the pricing on the other Fiji products, I'm afraid this card (and its NVidia equivalent) will not be reasonably priced

 

[dj-electric]

Last reasonably priced card ive seen was the HD 7990 after a price cut. Of course, riddled with issues and stuff but yeah...

 

[$ReaPeR$]

It would make sense to stack 2x R9 Nano cores on such card.

it probably is exactly that!

 

[Random Murderer]

It would make sense to stack 2x R9 Nano cores on such card.

it probably is exactly that!

The R9 Nano core is identical to the Fury X core. The only differences, aside from cooling, are on the PCB(the Fury X has a much beefier power delivery section) and BIOS(the Nano throttles a hell of a lot more to keep itself in its very tight power/thermal envelope). Parts-wise, the Nano and Fury X dies are identical.
It'll be interesting to see if the put a strong enough power section on this, as well as cooling solution, for this to maintain Fury X speeds consistently, or if they'll be backing off on the clock speed and power consumption and making a dual Nano card.

 

[midnightoil]

If you don't mind dropping $1500 on a single card, yes, it'll be reasonable.

Assuming AMD doesn't pull an Nvidia *cough*Titan Z*cough*

Speculation has been that the Fury X2 will cost $1100. As far as I'm concerned that would not just be good, but very generous.

It's clearly aimed at VR, and AMD have no competition (at all) in the VR space. So they could pretty much price it at what they wanted and still sell. Pascal will fix some of the hardware deficiencies in the VR space for NVIDIA, but they can't be competitive until they have a low level API for it (GWVR is just DX11 extensions).

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

If we can't get enough Fiji based product (largely a function of HBM limitations) to sate reviewers, then why exactly are we talking about Gemini?


Really, it's like worrying about how you're going to customize your golden toilet. Unfortunately, all you've got is an outhouse. I'm not even worried about what the insane price is going to be, I'm more concerned with all 3 of the world's Gemini owners taking down the power grid between the power draw, cooling, and robotic butlers they must have already purchased.

 

[midnightoil]

If we can't get enough Fiji based product (largely a function of HBM limitations) to sate reviewers, then why exactly are we talking about Gemini?


Really, it's like worrying about how you're going to customize your golden toilet. Unfortunately, all you've got is an outhouse. I'm not even worried about what the insane price is going to be, I'm more concerned with all 3 of the world's Gemini owners taking down the power grid between the power draw, cooling, and robotic butlers they must have already purchased.

It isn't HBM supply. It's been interposer supply. Always has been. May now be at a stage where HBM is the bottleneck, but until now there have been practically no interposers available at all.

 

[geon2k2]

good name, they are twins after all ...

 

[AsRock]

The R9 Nano core is identical to the Fury X core. The only differences, aside from cooling, are on the PCB(the Fury X has a much beefier power delivery section) and BIOS(the Nano throttles a hell of a lot more to keep itself in its very tight power/thermal envelope). Parts-wise, the Nano and Fury X dies are identical.
It'll be interesting to see if the put a strong enough power section on this, as well as cooling solution, for this to maintain Fury X speeds consistently, or if they'll be backing off on the clock speed and power consumption and making a dual Nano card.

Maybe that's why company's like XFX put a over sized cooler on their's.

Wish i could get my hands on one for a review hehe.

 

[RejZoR]

The R9 Nano core is identical to the Fury X core. The only differences, aside from cooling, are on the PCB(the Fury X has a much beefier power delivery section) and BIOS(the Nano throttles a hell of a lot more to keep itself in its very tight power/thermal envelope). Parts-wise, the Nano and Fury X dies are identical.
It'll be interesting to see if the put a strong enough power section on this, as well as cooling solution, for this to maintain Fury X speeds consistently, or if they'll be backing off on the clock speed and power consumption and making a dual Nano card.

Ever thought I said "R9 Nano core" because it's easier to say that than explain it why it is in 3 paragraphs? Just saying...

 

[john_]

If you don't mind dropping $1500 on a single card, yes, it'll be reasonable.

Assuming AMD doesn't pull an Nvidia *cough*Titan Z*cough*

AMD put that price because Nvidia gave them the opportunity to do so. When your competitor puts $3000 on a dual GPU card, when the single GPU models cost $1000, you just look at your paper where you probably wrote $1100, scratch that number and put $3000/2 = $1500 with a big smile in your face.
Let me be clear here. I was against that $1500 pricing. That water cooling on the card could probably justify a price around $1000-$1200 as maximum, but not $1500. And probably that $1200 I write, can't be justified either, but when companies throw you in your face $3000 price tags you fell in their trap and you find logic at a little higher prices than the prices you would justify before looking at that $3000.

 

[Shihab]

Speculation has been that the Fury X2 will cost $1100. As far as I'm concerned that would not just be good, but very generous.

It's clearly aimed at VR, and AMD have no competition (at all) in the VR space. So they could pretty much price it at what they wanted and still sell. Pascal will fix some of the hardware deficiencies in the VR space for NVIDIA, but they can't be competitive until they have a low level API for it (GWVR is just DX11 extensions).

-If AMD thinks small form factor is niche enough to warrant a price tag equal to that of a ~20% faster card, I doubt they'd be quite generous with a dual GPU one. $1500 is the safest bet on this card, unless Nvidia's next offering sells for equal or less, and maintains the lead NV has atm. Though I highly doubt that. The bastards practically control the market

-Let's for the sake of argument assume AMD's indeed the crowned king of VR market, why would that matter now? VR kits are yet to be released commercially (aside from smartphone gimmicks), and even then it would take a while for the market to gather steam. Until it does, Nv can keep people happy with what it has.

 

[buildzoid]

The R9 Nano core is identical to the Fury X core. The only differences, aside from cooling, are on the PCB(the Fury X has a much beefier power delivery section) and BIOS(the Nano throttles a hell of a lot more to keep itself in its very tight power/thermal envelope). Parts-wise, the Nano and Fury X dies are identical.
It'll be interesting to see if the put a strong enough power section on this, as well as cooling solution, for this to maintain Fury X speeds consistently, or if they'll be backing off on the clock speed and power consumption and making a dual Nano card.

The current PCB pics of Gemini show 4 phase power for the core. That's the same as the Nano soooo I think it'll perform like Nano in CF or a little better than Nano in CF if they give it better cooling than the Nano. If software over voltage for this becomes a thing many people will burn out the VRM.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

The R9 Nano core is identical to the Fury X core. The only differences, aside from cooling, are on the PCB(the Fury X has a much beefier power delivery section) and BIOS(the Nano throttles a hell of a lot more to keep itself in its very tight power/thermal envelope). Parts-wise, the Nano and Fury X dies are identical.
It'll be interesting to see if the put a strong enough power section on this, as well as cooling solution, for this to maintain Fury X speeds consistently, or if they'll be backing off on the clock speed and power consumption and making a dual Nano card.

if it comes with dual 8pin connections and because of the space compromises, the nano specs make the most sense to me, even with a water cooling solution.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

AMD's latest card was called "Fury" because of the past Rage cards that were also named Fury.

Not because of Furies.

 

[midnightoil]

-Let's for the sake of argument assume AMD's indeed the crowned king of VR market, why would that matter now? VR kits are yet to be released commercially (aside from smartphone gimmicks), and even then it would take a while for the market to gather steam. Until it does, Nv can keep people happy with what it has.

http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=RssLanding&cat=news&id=2094239

NVIDIA ain't getting ANY deals for pre-built VR ready PCs any time soon. Any such things will be AMD and AMD only. Hence this Dell / AMD / Occulus deal.

 

[Steevo]

8K is the new 4K.......

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Also known as the carrot on a stick: