NVIDIA Releases GeForce 358.50 WHQL Game Ready Driver

64K · Oct 7, 2015

seggbizo said:
Rocksteady has nothing to do with the first release of Arkham Knight...

I think I recall reading that Iron Galaxy did the shitty PC port of Arkham Knight.

RejZoR · Oct 7, 2015

GTX 980 has higher clocks, more shaders, more ROP's and more TMU's. Not exactly the same chip...

R-T-B · Oct 8, 2015

RejZoR said:
GTX 980 has higher clocks, more shaders, more ROP's and more TMU's. Not exactly the same chip...

Nope. It's the exact same chip with a nice laser cut in it to disable parts. So you could really argue it both ways to a degree...

RejZoR · Oct 8, 2015

You can talk about the "same chip" when it has everything the same except clocks. What difference does it make to the end user if they are laser cut or missing by chip design (from scratch) if they aren't functional in either case?

Uplink10 · Oct 8, 2015

RejZoR said:
You can talk about the "same chip" when it has everything the same except clocks. What difference does it make to the end user if they are laser cut or missing by chip design (from scratch) if they aren't functional in either case?

It means that they first made a full fledged chip and then disabled some parts of it which is certainly not ECO and it is a waste of resources. I would make a law that would prohibit such a thing and make them do another chip for 970.

R-T-B · Oct 8, 2015

RejZoR said:
You can talk about the "same chip" when it has everything the same except clocks. What difference does it make to the end user if they are laser cut or missing by chip design (from scratch) if they aren't functional in either case?

Nothing of course. Just playing devils advocate.

It means that they first made a full fledged chip and then disabled some parts of it which is certainly not ECO and it is a waste of resources. I would make a law that would prohibit such a thing and make them do another chip for 970.

I think this would result in the 960 becoming the 970 in the worst possible ways: 970 price, 960 features.

I doubt it would help the consumer, tbh. The additional costs would have to be recouped.

xorbe · Oct 8, 2015

Uplink10 said:
It means that they first made a full fledged chip and then disabled some parts of it which is certainly not ECO and it is a waste of resources. I would make a law that would prohibit such a thing and make them do another chip for 970.

Dafuq. This allows them to salvage chips that would otherwise be discarded as useless. Titan X -> 980Ti. 980 -> 970. 960 -> 950.

RejZoR · Oct 8, 2015

Exactly. Downgrading chips for lower ends is in fact more ECO than throwing them away and creating new ones with lower specs from scratch. It's not exactly new, they've been doing this for ages.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 8, 2015

Uplink10 said:
It means that they first made a full fledged chip and then disabled some parts of it which is certainly not ECO and it is a waste of resources. I would make a law that would prohibit such a thing and make them do another chip for 970.

What!?! You sir have no clue do you? The chips used for 970 are ones that did not make the cut to be a 980. Sounds to be like they are salvaging chips to be used for lower end part rather then tossing them in a waste containers. Idk about you but repurposing has always been more ECO friendly.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 8, 2015

64K said:
I think I recall reading that Iron Galaxy did the shitty PC port of Arkham Knight.

They did, and now Rock Steady has to pick up the pieces.

Uplink10 · Oct 8, 2015

xorbe said:
Dafuq. This allows them to salvage chips that would otherwise be discarded as useless. Titan X -> 980Ti. 980 -> 970. 960 -> 950.

RejZoR said:
Exactly. Downgrading chips for lower ends is in fact more ECO than throwing them away and creating new ones with lower specs from scratch. It's not exactly new, they've been doing this for ages.

MxPhenom 216 said:
What!?! You sir have no clue do you? The chips used for 970 are ones that did not make the cut to be a 980. Sounds to be like they are salvaging chips to be used for lower end part rather then tossing them in a waste containers. Idk about you but repurposing has always been more ECO friendly.

Some of the CPU and GPU chips are probably being salvaged that way but sure as hell not all of them.
I feel cheated when my chips could be doing more in terms of performance but cannot because Intel locked the frequency, some technologies like Vt-d...CPUs should have frequency as high as the thermal throttling allowed.

I guess the built in limitations are more apparent in CPU world than GPU world.

RejZoR · Oct 8, 2015

If Core i3 was clocked to infinity, what would be the point of selling Core i7's then? Or why doesn't Nissan Micra come with the same engine as the Nissan GT-R? Would only be fair wouldn't it? For the price of Micra?

Uplink10 · Oct 8, 2015

RejZoR said:
If Core i3 was clocked to infinity, what would be the point of selling Core i7's then? Or why doesn't Nissan Micra come with the same engine as the Nissan GT-R? Would only be fair wouldn't it? For the price of Micra?

Slice for Core i7 could have more cores and better properties (better performance at lower power consumption).

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 8, 2015

Uplink10 said:
Slice for Core i7 could have more cores and better properties (better performance at lower power consumption).

Do you honestly think about what you are saying before you post?

RejZoR · Oct 8, 2015

Well, isn't that exactly what companies are doing already lol? Performance always comes at a cost and it's up to you to decide how far you want to go and justify perofmrance for the sake of higher price. Most of us eventualyl find a point where we aren't willing to spend more. That's why I only have GTX 980 even though GTX 980Ti was already available. It works the same for every single piece of computer hardware...

Uplink10 · Oct 8, 2015

MxPhenom 216 said:
Do you honestly think about what you are saying before you post?

Server CPUs have better power consumption and it is without point that not all i5 CPUs are 4 core.

xorbe · Oct 8, 2015

And this related to the 358.50 driver how?

Dieinafire · Oct 9, 2015

Another great set of drivers. Keep up the amazing work!

R-T-B · Oct 9, 2015

Uplink10 said:
Server CPUs have better power consumption and it is without point that not all i5 CPUs are 4 core.

No. Server CPUs are highly power hungry.

Anyways, this is way off topic.

Uplink10 · Oct 9, 2015

R-T-B said:
No. Server CPUs are highly power hungry.

Based on a number of cores and power consumption they are more efficient than desktop CPUs.

Bjørgersson · Oct 9, 2015

64K said:
I think I recall reading that Iron Galaxy did the shitty PC port of Arkham Knight.

That's right, and Warner even knew about its quality, yet they released it anyways.

R-T-B · Oct 11, 2015

Uplink10 said:
Based on a number of cores and power consumption they are more efficient than desktop CPUs.

Really it's the node and efficiency of the design that determines power consumption. And server cpus aren't much different from desktop in a wattage to power perspective.

Prima.Vera · Oct 11, 2015

How good is this driver for a GTX 780 Ti? Does it lower the performance again?

Ikaruga · Oct 11, 2015

Prima.Vera said:
How good is this driver for a GTX 780 Ti? Does it lower the performance again?

Lots of people reported massive performance drops, but others didn't notice such problems... you have to test it yourself I guess.

Baum · Oct 11, 2015

Prima.Vera said:
How good is this driver for a GTX 780 Ti? Does it lower the performance again?

Test it and report it here pls

me want it for my gtx 770 !

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NVIDIA Releases GeForce 358.50 WHQL Game Ready Driver

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