Black Ops III: 12 GB RAM and GTX 980 Ti Not Enough

[Dieinafire]

The only reason you need that much ram is your using heavy AA and Supersampling

 

[Aquinus]

Sorry, I couldn't wait for my "I told you so" as soon as I read the first post. And I'm on record in these forums for the last year advising people 8GB is not "enough" anymore.

Regardless of how badly coded it is, do people really expect VRAM use to stay under 4GB forever? It didn't stay under 512MB, 1GB, or 2GB, so why should this be any different. Even if everything is cleaned up, the question is not if it will fill 8GB or 12GB of VRAM but rather will it still exceed 4GB of VRAM. I suspect in the next year or two we'll see more and more titles use more and more VRAM now that it's becoming more common. Just as more games are eating up more system memory and push usage past 8GB.

The only reason you need that much ram is your using heavy AA and Supersampling

AA doesn't tend to increase memory usage by huge amount as it's really just post-processing the already rendered frame since it happens after rasterization. Resolution and the quality and quantity of textures would have a bigger impact on memory usage.

 

[rtwjunkie]

@Aquinus I noticed you were saying VRAM throughout....were you meaning RAM on the larger numbers?

This game actually is a double-edged sword. Based on W1z and bta comments, it seemed to take however much VRAM was presented to it, so I suspect 4GB VRAM cards will still be ok.

The other edge of the sword was the actual amount of system RAM needed, which is what I was commenting on.

 

[Aquinus]

@Aquinus I noticed you were saying VRAM throughout....were you meaning RAM on the larger numbers?

This game actually is a double-edged sword. Based on W1z and bta comments, it seemed to take however much VRAM was presented to it, so I suspect 4GB VRAM cards will still be ok.

The other edge of the sword was the actual amount of system RAM needed, which is what I was commenting on.

Both, it's unrealistic to expect one to grow and the other not to. All memory is the same, if you use more than you have, performance starts suffering very quickly. It's why I hate swap space and the page file. If I can't run everything in memory, then I need to upgrade is the way I look at it. I'm not one to close everything I have open just because I want to play a game and I don't want swap space to hide that fact from me.

 

[mab1376]

Both, it's unrealistic to expect one to grow and the other not to. All memory is the same, if you use more than you have, performance starts suffering very quickly. It's why I hate swap space and the page file. If I can't run everything in memory, then I need to upgrade is the way I look at it. I'm not one to close everything I have open just because I want to play a game and I don't want swap space to hide that fact from me.

+1 to that, i have 18gb of ram, and my next pc will probably be 24gb since i build one every 4-5 years.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Console kiddies will gobble this up as always as that's the bigger market... but still... this series just needs to go away for awhile to give itself time to reinvent. They are just snagging and grabbing from other titles now.

consoles always do well with the kidz)

If you have a Ps3 or xbox360 you not going to be to happy when you find out you got a severely cut down version.

The last generation (Xbox 360 + PS3) versions of Black Ops III will not contain...

1. DLC Support (No Map Packs/DLC Weapons/New Specalists/Zombie Maps, etc.
2. Ground War
3. Paintshop (Camo Creator/Editor)
4. Campaign Mode

Just though I would add that.

 

[flmatter]

so I wonder how well it will run on a 4k monitor? 16gb of system ram and a r9 390 with 8gb.

 

[AlwaysHope]

Both, it's unrealistic to expect one to grow and the other not to. All memory is the same, if you use more than you have, performance starts suffering very quickly. It's why I hate swap space and the page file. If I can't run everything in memory, then I need to upgrade is the way I look at it. I'm not one to close everything I have open just because I want to play a game and I don't want swap space to hide that fact from me.

Have to agree with this... +1, besides that, RAM is so cheap these days anyway..

 

[arbiter]

You couldn't be more wrong with that statement, Ultra doesn't necessarily means having x8 of MSAA, which is what taxes the most the performance of a game when you setup the "Ultra" preset of a game. I'm pretty sure the sample quality isn't part of a developer goal when targeting the final visual results in a video game, anything above x2 MSAA, heck even above any post-processing Anti Aliasing technique is pretty much a complement for more sharpness in the image.

Yea probably could use ultra preset on a 4 or 6gb card if turned off AA which generally high and ultra presets do use them. I personally don't care about jagged edges since i don't rarely standing around looking at them. Its only those things I don't barely notice in the game.

 

[Uplink10]

But in all honesty, while Crysis is still super demanding, it looked spectacular at time and is in a way still a benchmark for visual fidelity. Mostly because it's SO old but looks like it was released a year or two ago...

I played all three Crysis games with low-end graphic cards and games all worked great and looked stunning. Crysis series should be as an example as it can be played on a different range of systems and it looks relatively great in all of them.

It's why I hate swap space and the page file. If I can't run everything in memory, then I need to upgrade is the way I look at it.

Windows has a lot to do with that, I have 8 GB of RAM and when I am using only 3 GB or 4 GB I keep seeing hard faults which is kind of weird since there is so much RAM available this should not be happening .

Maybe Windows is also guilty for this, a while back I was getting "Close programs to prevent information loss" constantly after leaving Firefox or some other program open for a few hours. I was getting this on Windows 8.1 but it never happened to me on Windows 7, well expect when I formated external USB drive and explorer started eating all the memory because of the memory leak (Thank you Microsucks for not fixing that, idiots).

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

Gonna run this game on High @ 1080p & see if it still eats VRAM & system RAM or not.

 

[Xzibit]

Gonna run this game on High @ 1080p & see if it still eats VRAM & system RAM or not.

Well if your on a 970 Nvidia recommends sticking to 1080p @ high settings

However, if you’re looking to gear up for Black Ops III and maximize your experience for 60 FPS and high graphics settings, we’ve got a set of recommended NVIDIA GPUs for you.

For Black Ops III, we're recommending the GeForce GTX 970, which will enable you to experience the fast-paced shooter at 60 FPS at 1920x1080, at a high level of detail.

All the recommended GPUs @ Resolution are for HIGH SETTINGS. They aren't recommending anything past that.

 

[Slizzo]

There were two different developers for those games published by Activision. The developer Treyarch spent a couple of years making Black Ops 3.

They actually had 3 years to develop the game, as there are now 3 developers making Call of Duty games.

 

[Easo]

"Optimisation".

 

[Ikaruga]

I'm really confused what is happening in the thread.

1, Any decent application or operating system will use as much free resources as it can if it makes things faster. This is the same story as 2GB vs 4GB video cards, where a game uses 3GB on a 4GB card runs 99.9% the same as on a 2GB video card.

2, this game might have a "simple" memory leak bug, so drawing conclusions without proof is questionable perhaps.

personal opinion: The last time COD was good was the time when it ran on idtech.

 

[SNM]

In short, I can not play this title on my rig.....well I love CoD BO series...

 

[RejZoR]

Hell, even original Far Cry is

Well if your on a 970 Nvidia recommends sticking to 1080p @ high settings

All the recommended GPUs @ Resolution are for HIGH SETTINGS. They aren't recommending anything past that.

Screw "high" setting. I always use the highest one. Which i think is Very High or Ultra...

 

[hapkiman]

Sounds like poor coding/optimization, and memory leaking.

 

[SIGSEGV]

another crappy games story. well. it's meant to be played, isn't it ? lol

 

[Xzibit]

Sounds like poor coding/optimization, and memory leaking.

Final benchmarks should be available soon for a comparison.

 

[Filip Georgievski]

Sounds to me like an Nvidia based game.....

 

[Vlada011]

Only rear smart people saw trap in days when new GTX980Ti customers laugh to TITAN X owners because for 300$ less get similar performance.
TITAN X will be useful long time after 980Ti become limited with video memory.
This is special bad for people who plan to buy first one card and later when price drop and second card.
On autumn 2016 GTX980Ti owners will be in same position as GTX780Ti owners now.
Worse thing to tell someone who buy so expensive card is disable filter or disable this because they use most video memory.
People who pay 600-700$ don't want to do such things. At the end when some time pass 980Ti owners will be sorry because they didn't saved 200-250$ more for TITAN X. Special who pay custom GTX980Ti. Off course Fury X will become stronger card than GTX980Ti for several months when NVIDIA launch Pascal and maybe even strong as TITAN X. Same as R9-290X become better than Kepler in some situation even if that was obvious inferior card on launch date.
NVIDIA don't want any more as AMD to constantly improve performance of their most expensive cards and someone who pay 1000 euro for card to install driver after 2 years and see improvement in new games. No, NVIDIA improve performance now only 12 months, after new series show up there are good indication that even try to sabotage performance of older cards and AMD who constantly improve suddenly have similar performance.

 

[john_]

So, only 390/X and Titan X have enough VRAM for this one?

 

[vega22]

any plans for rerunning the tests with amd gpu for comparison?

 

[las]

Didn't know the CoD Series was still a thing.

So you didnt know the best selling games were still a thing? Strange.