AMD Demoes Dual "Fiji" Based Desktops at VRLA, Super Compact

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so far AMD has not said that Polaris will be that much more powerful at all than Fiji (just that is massively less power-hungry for same performance).

That's the main draw to Polaris. It's the streamlining of GCN to a point where it no longer means 300w+ max power draw and hopefully GPU's running below 90c on stock cooling. If AMD can get their power usage and cooling under control, they will be able to better compete with Nvidia.

 

[nem]

shut up and take my money..

 

[Caring1]

The first PIC shows a blower style cooler. On its side as well, so using a PCI-e riser, which would make it easier to fit in the case.
Surely that isn't the dual card though? Dual GPU with blower fan? Need to see more.

This may be the case with the Fury X2 on a riser as the case used to house the system is no bigger than one used for a home theater system, in fact it appears to be placed vertically in a stand, much like an Xbox or Playstation can be.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Meh.

PR. 4" wide but how long?*

The Tiki on their website is using a 980ti (for now). Advertised with a 980ti or a Titan X. In fact, in the configurator it's currently only Nvidia cards... Given the compact space inside the case, I can't see how it's got water in there. I think the dual fiji may be rocking air cooling.

Well, at least the dual Fiji card will become the most powerful Tiki build. There's no way Nvidia can match a Fiji PCB size using GDDR5. Given the sheer deafening silence about a dual Maxwell part, I figure they aren't evening coming to the fight this time after Titan Z and it's preposterous pricing nature.

But you have to wonder, a dual card in a Tiki size build with a Skylake. It'd be interesting to see the cooling and how noisy it may get.

* that's not meant to sound rude.

Just to combine two elements of your post, the Tiki Z did actually feature a GTX Titan Z until the card fell of the landscape. It did require a customized backpane but the chassis did manage to shoehorn in a 2.5 slot card

 

[Casecutter]

This is about RTG LiquidVR and the V-R market space... traditional "Enthusiast Gamers" need to get use to the fact this hasn't anything really for them.

Yea it's strange the RTG has sat on this, but I think they don't want to have it perceived as much or at all as a "Gaming" part, and waiting to showcase its use for V-R like they have here. It will come to market and have some staying power for the V-R segment, and why they haven't named it, waiting to see exactly what and how V-R really takes off, and then release it for that burgeoning space with some new (non-Fury) naming.

It appears to have a traditional blower cooler, so between that and I don't see that Falcon chassis having room for two FuryX pump/thermal solutions with say even a single larger radiator. It has me thinking it's using two Nano type thermal chamber coolers with the single blower, while both Fuji's are clocked down to Nano speed (or less). All RTG is targeting is to provide a great V-R experience, might seem counter-intuitive to the gaming crowd looking at monitors, but probably drives the dual images for V-R very smoothly.

 

[HumanSmoke]

This is about RTG LiquidVR and the V-R market space... traditional "Enthusiast Gamers" need to get use to the fact this hasn't anything really for them.

That should be apparent from Roy Taylor's assertion that the dual Fiji card is 12TF FP32.

12 TFLOP of single point precision works out to be clock speed of 732MHz

732 * (2 * 4096) * 2 ops/clock = 12TF

Given that AMD tend to use best case numbers (i.e. max clock) for their calculations, it is probably safe to assume that the dual Fiji card wouldn't stack up particularly well against Crossfired FuryX/Nano/Fury - so excepting a niche smaller solution for the GPU-card, it doesn't really fit into the usual dual-GPU paradigm of halo performance equating to double that of the highest performing single GPU.

 

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..... it is probably safe to assume that the dual Fiji card wouldn't stack up particularly well against Crossfired FuryX/Nano/Fury - so excepting a niche smaller solution for the GPU-card, it doesn't really fit into the usual dual-GPU paradigm of halo performance equating to double that of the highest performing single GPU.

To be fair Nvidia did that with Kepler too with the Titan Z. It didn't equal the performance of two Titan Black or two GTX 780 Ti.

I haven't expected this dual Fiji GPU card to be as fast as two Nano much less two Fury X but we'll see.

Now that the Nano has been reduced to around $500 it would be pretty cool to see the dual Fiji MSRP at under $1,000. Probably wishful thinking on my part though.

 

[HumanSmoke]

To be fair Nvidia did that with Kepler too with the Titan Z. It didn't equal the performance of two Titan Blacks or two 780 Ti

True enough, although I was thinking more along the lines of AMD's lineage ( R9 295X2 equates well to cfx'd 290X, HD 7990 to cfx'd 7970's, HD 6990 to cfx'd 6970).

Now that the Nano has been reduced to around $500 it would be pretty cool to see the dual Fiji MSRP at under $1,000. Probably wishful thinking on my part though.

If the chips aren't stringently binned for voltage, there wouldn't be too many roadblocks to why it couldn't be competitively priced, although I suspect with AMD talking up Polaris at every opportunity there is good reason to expect a limited supply (a la development kit) since AMD are basically Osborning themselves. For VR dev's a dual card is probably a better proposition, especially if the incoming single GPU Arctic Islands/Polaris parts aren't close to doubling present performance.