NVIDIA's Next Flagship Graphics Cards will be the GeForce X80 Series

[FRAGaLOT]

I don't know why nvidia won't name the products after the cores they have in them, "GeForce GP104" sounds like a fine product name along with "GeForce GP104 Ti" and "GeForce GP104 Titan" and whatever other gimped versions of the "GP10x" they make of this core for cheap cards.

 

[PP Mguire]

To the 4K users: how does old games look on it? Say Diablo 2 unmodded.

A little later today I'm going to try putting my 98 box on the 4k screen

 

[FRAGaLOT]

So what's after X80, X80 Ti and X80 Titan ... does that mean that dual gpu card would be x90 and next gen silicon will go with X180, X180 Ti, X180 Titan and X190 for dual volta gpu?

I don't think nvidia has made a dual GPU single-card in ages. Reference or 3rd party. That's more something AMD tends to do, nvidia has never had the need\s to make such a product since the competition is so far behind, plus it would probably way more expensive than just SLIing two cards.

 

[FRAGaLOT]

To the 4K users: how does old games look on it? Say Diablo 2 unmodded.

Wasn't Diablo 2 just updated recently by Blizzard to run on modern PCs? Doubt it supports 4k tho.

 

[PP Mguire]

I don't think nvidia has made a dual GPU single-card in ages. Reference or 3rd party. That's more something AMD tends to do, nvidia has never had the need\s to make such a product since the competition is so far behind, plus it would probably way more expensive than just SLIing two cards.

Titan Z was last gen and Nvidia. They allowed AIB partners to sell the card but like all Titan cards they couldn't modify it. The last dual GPU that was modified to any extent was the 590.

Wasn't Diablo 2 just updated recently by Blizzard to run on modern PCs? Doubt it supports 4k tho.

I believe so, but idk what the update all has. Was never really a Diablo fan.

 

[FRAGaLOT]

You do know that AMD processors overclock more % wise on average, right?

That means nothing since Intel CPUs still outperform AMD cpus. If overclocking an AMD cpu was that much of a performance improvement more than what you can squeeze out of an Intel CPU, then everyone would be using AMD CPUs like it was the early 2000s again.

 

[FRAGaLOT]

Titan Z was last gen and Nvidia. They allowed AIB partners to sell the card but like all Titan cards they couldn't modify it. The last dual GPU that was modified to any extent was the 590. I believe so, but idk what the update all has. Was never really a Diablo fan.

Yeah i just couldn't recall the last time nvidia ever did a dual GPU card, which AMD does all the time at every reversion.

As far as i know the Diablo 2 update allows the game to run on modern PCs and operating system (64bit OSes), considering most people were playing it on Windows 9x back in the day.

 

[trog100]

That is how things work though, trog. It all depends on the quality of the silicon, binning, and, sales, actually.

the chip i mentioned was on pre-order i had one of the first in the country.. it was a brand new line.. intel knew full well what it was capable of.. but knowing this they chose to clock it at 60% of what it could have been clocked at.. fast enough to clearly beat the opposition but not fast enough to make fools of them..

8 years later my current end of the line intel cpu is running at 4.5 gig.. very similar to what my 8 year old intel chip could do.. and very similar to what the latest generation intel chips can do..

it does make one wonder just what would have happened if that chip had not been deliberately down clocked.. where would we be now.. he he

one thing is for sure.. intel have had a pretty easy 8 years..

trog

 

[EarthDog]

That means nothing since Intel CPUs still outperform AMD cpus. If overclocking an AMD cpu was that much of a performance improvement more than what you can squeeze out of an Intel CPU, then everyone would be using AMD CPUs like it was the early 2000s again.

while that is true.. that wasn't remotely a part of what we were discussing. Look at the post I quoted.

 

[arbiter]

while that is true.. that wasn't remotely a part of what we were discussing. Look at the post I quoted.

Ok lets get back on topic of Nvidia gpu and drop the whole AMD cpu discussion as that is probably some other thread.

 

[Frick]

As far as i know the Diablo 2 update allows the game to run on modern PCs and operating system (64bit OSes), considering most people were playing it on Windows 9x back in the day.

This is getting way off topic, but it ran just fine on modern OS's before.

 

[Ubersonic]

There's a certain comedy to this, after the 9000 series they went to the 200 series instead of a X000 series, now after the 900 series they are going to the X00 series lol.

No points for consistency Nvidia

(Yeah I know the was a 100 series before the 200 but it was OEM only rebrands).

 

[Basard]

LOL. Saw that actually. 800x600 stretched on a 4K monitor....Blur pr0n fest. Like watching a very low res video on your 1080p monitor.... ))

However, if you use a hack, it looks like this ))

That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen!

 

[RejZoR]

Then again they maybe want to differentiate the series more by making drastic name changes instead of logical ones...

 

[laszlo]

as nvidia like green they shall name their cards :
-leprechaun
-goblin
-grinch
-ipkiss
-lantern
-t.m.n.t.
-wazowski
-hulk
-kermit
-yoda
-shrek
.....

plenty of green characters to choose from....

i couldn't resist

 

[64K]

I don't know why nvidia won't name the products after the cores they have in them, "GeForce GP104" sounds like a fine product name along with "GeForce GP104 Ti" and "GeForce GP104 Titan" and whatever other gimped versions of the "GP10x" they make of this core for cheap cards.

Cool names sell hardware. Look at all the products that carry the "Gaming" logo. There is a reason manufacturers do that. Calling a card by the engineering term won't help to sell cards.

 

[InVasMani]

Which Games, on what settings and resolution please? Otherwise I'm calling this a BS

Rainbow Six Siege on Ultra easily can surpass 6GB VRAM same with the latest CoD and even more so depending on how much system memory you have installed. From what I've seen higher VRAM can offset the need and impact of more system memory up to a point at least for gaming at least.

 

[EarthDog]

That makes little sense considering what is in vRAM is different than what is in the System Ram...

 

[InVasMani]

Wasn't Diablo 2 just updated recently by Blizzard to run on modern PCs? Doubt it supports 4k tho.

Just play Grim Dawn at 4K instead it's a vastly better game and the price is pretty cheap all things considered plus it's getting modding tools on top of a all ready brilliant ARPG that doesn't feature Korean spam bots selling gold and items like every Blizzard game because they require bnet and they even spam you on that outside of the games themselves.

That makes little sense considering what is in vRAM is different than what is in the System Ram...

http://www.techpowerup.com/217308/black-ops-iii-12-gb-ram-and-gtx-980-ti-not-enough.html

What's in storage goes into system memory and into CPU cache and goes into vRAM where do you think it fetches and accesses those textures from? If you run out of VRAM your next logical fast access high storage density bottleneck is your system memory followed by your actual storage which is more of a non volatile cache for memory.

Try playing a game that loads textures on the fly like World of Warcraft or Diablo 3 with a traditional HD and see what happens stutter stutter stutter when you run out of available faster access VRAM on the GPU what do you think is going to happen stutter stutter stutter.

That's also where higher bandwidth lower latency ram helps as well and explains why it drastically impacts APU's as they don't have dedicated VRAM and rely on system memory.

 

[EarthDog]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, I see...after thinking a bit more critically about it.... it makes sense. If you are using more vRAM than what your GPU allows, it 'pages' out to the System RAM....this also depends on the settings and the card so it is not a hard/fast rule.

Please edit posts instead of double posting... they don;t like that 'round these parts.

 

[PP Mguire]

Blops 3 actually scales to your VRAM and system RAM then uses all that it can. It can run smooth on a 4GB card but on my machine will utilize around 11.5GB.

 

[anubis44]

double the floating point so i wouldnt expect AMDs to close the performance gap for another year or so after release of their polaris "

". should 16nm be quite as impressive as it is on paper. we'll be in for a real treat.

So you think AMD's Polaris will be like chocolate soft-serve ice cream with eyeballs? Very interesting.

 

[Frick]

Just play Grim Dawn at 4K instead it's a vastly better game and the price is pretty cheap all things considered plus it's getting modding tools on top of a all ready brilliant ARPG that doesn't feature Korean spam bots selling gold and items like every Blizzard game because they require bnet and they even spam you on that outside of the games themselves.

I was about to write something but realized you're probably talking about Diablo 3. Crisis averted.

 

[InVasMani]

I was about to write something but realized you're probably talking about Diablo 3. Crisis averted.

It's better than any of the Diablo games really it doesn't matter which one seeing as it's got better game mechanics, graphics, story, humor and overall fun factor. The game literally has improved every time I've played it for the last year and half or so. Diablo 2 wasn't a bad game by any means, but even in comparison to that Grim Dawn is still head and shoulders a superior ARPG it has so many great things going for it I wish your typical EQ/WoW class based MMO's were more like it in fact.

 

[medi01]

...since the competition is so far behind...

Seriously?