Intel Core i7-7700K "Kaby Lake" Processor Detailed

[cdawall]

Sure I get it. But I disagree with it is all. Quad cores have been at the high end of the mainstream for a decade now, and while there are few reasons for it to move to more cores ... it would still be nice, and we're getting there performance-wise. The next gen from Intel should be (on desktop) like now, but bumped up a step. IE 2C/4T for Celeron/Pentium (maybe apart from the €30 CPU's), 4C/4T for i3's and 4C/8T for i5s and 6C/12T (and maybe even 8C/16T Xeon parts for mainstream) for i7's. But then they'd step on their own toes and their precious market segmentation. I just like the idea to start a build with a Celeron and end up with a sixteen thread monster.

Why? Is there some mystical software that an average user has that actually needs more than a 4C/8T?

 

[Prima.Vera]

Any news when Intel Core i7-6850K will be released? This i7-7700K is boring like hell

 

[Grings]

Any news when Intel Core i7-6850K will be released? This i7-7700K is boring like hell

Is that the Skylake with l4 cache/iris pro? because despite kaby lake working with z170... yeah, new chipset for that one lol

 

[Fx]

Intel doesn't seem to care to motivate me to upgrade from my FX 8350, and at this rate, my Xeon 1270 v3 will be doing just fine as well for a very long time.

I can easily wait until Zen. *yawn*

 

[cadaveca]

You can't get six cores in a socket that doesn't have the pins to support it. It's literally that simple.

 

[cdawall]

You can't get six cores in a socket that doesn't have the pins to support it. It's literally that simple.

You stop your dirty logic.

 

[techy1]

it is funny that some people to our intels critique replies with something "do not like it? - go HEDT"... funny that few weeks from now there will be a new gen HEDT and price performance actually is expected go DOWN (from specs and price leaks which happen to be pretty treatable about this time)... so where can we go now? or should we just be happy that a 2 year upgrade (yes - intel upgrades at 2 year rate now) time brings nothing, but higher prices (and some "useful" iGPU performance increase - if not HEDT) ?

 

[ZoneDymo]

This kind of new is like going to the church, to listen all of those old ladies complaining about everything. Who the f*ck cares. Nobody is forcing you to buy. If you don't like it, don't buy, it's very simple. Or you kids just complain, because your daddy won't open his wallet?

Look in the mirror and see the irony.

 

[Mindweaver]

You can't get six cores in a socket that doesn't have the pins to support it. It's literally that simple.

And oddly they sell us a chip that has 8 logical cores with those pins.. So, it would seem they have figured out how to fit 8 logical cores into a chip that doesn't have the pins to support it. If Intel can do it I wonder why car companies haven't figured out how to sell us a 4 cylinder with Hyperthreading and sell it as an 8x logical cylinder vehicle. All jokes aside I'm just bored at the moment with CPU's.. I mean I could tell the jump from my old 9550 to a 920, to a 860, and from a 860 to 2600k... and I've bought every socket after my 2600k (I just haven't upgraded my gaming rig), but not anything past it. It's actually starting to feel like p3 and p4 days again.. Only thing is AMD doesn't feel like socket A days...

I know we can buy a 6x with 2011 (I have one), but those are still extreme prices. I would like to see a 6x with hyperthreading cheaper, for the current price of an i7 k series. Let's have quad core i3's.. I'd like to get excited over a cpu like I did with the C2D E6300 or even the E8400 where I hit 4ghz on a cheap mid level cooler (I could go back to Math co days, but I feel I will loss my crowd.. and show my age.. lol). Do we ever expect to see an i8? I'm just an old hardware junky Dave.. I need my fix!..lol

You stop your dirty logic.

Dirty indeed!

 

[newtekie1]

I'm not sure why anyone expected anything different. The socket isn't wired for more than 4c/8t, so that is exactly what we are going to get.

 

[idx]

A mainstream CPU for a mainstream platform should have up to 4 cores. If you want more, you can always get a budget 6 core and an X99 mobo

Not when it is priced at 380-400 EUR ! what Intel is doing right now is nothing but huge marketing BS.

 

[EarthDog]

it is funny that some people to our intels critique replies with something "do not like it? - go HEDT"... funny that few weeks from now there will be a new gen HEDT and price performance actually is expected go DOWN (from specs and price leaks which happen to be pretty treatable about this time)... so where can we go now? or should we just be happy that a 2 year upgrade (yes - intel upgrades at 2 year rate now) time brings nothing, but higher prices (and some "useful" iGPU performance increase - if not HEDT) ?

Maybe... that depends. We need to see pricing and performance to make that call.

If leaks are right, seems to be about right give or take a few dollars. Remember, there is a deca-core at the top of the heap, so with normal pricing structure, it should be more than the $1K Octo..

 

[Frick]

Why? Is there some mystical software that an average user has that actually needs more than a 4C/8T?

God no. Avarage users have no need to buy anything over two cores. But a high end chip isn't for avarage users.

You can't get six cores in a socket that doesn't have the pins to support it. It's literally that simple.

Now that I didn't know.

 

[Mindweaver]

I'm not sure why anyone expected anything different. The socket isn't wired for more than 4c/8t, so that is exactly what we are going to get.

I know your expectations are low and everyone else that's ok with these tick, tick, tick, tick.. I gather that, but I choose for my expectations to be high.. I'm ready for a tock... You know push the envelope a little...

Oh and buddy, I'm not sure you understand where I'm coming from.. I don't care if they change the socket to get a 6 or 8 core cpu for at most $329. Everybody is stuck on the socket not supporting more than 4 cores. It hasn't stopped Intel from changing the socket on the last 5 i7's.. So, change it again... and I know we have 2011.. I'm looking for main stream being an x6 not an x4. OK, I've said what I want.. I'm becoming bored with it. buddy you have a blue screen free day!

 

[Toothless]

When my main rig was down for water upgrades I used my 940BE with only 6GB of DDR2 1066 for about 2 weeks and it really wasn't that bad. The only thing I missed having was my SSD, but only because I was being lazy and didn't want to install crap.

I use one at work every single day side by side with a 4770@4ghz. Oddly enough the internet loads just as fast and data transfers just as fast.

Okay, then we'll run on PII's and we'll all try to video render while crunching at the same time.

ALL DA POINTZ

They should give the i5 hyperthreading on 2 cores, other than the 6600k (and only because its unlocked) the higher clocked i3's are a better proposition

Laptops.

 

[cdawall]

Okay, then we'll run on PII's and we'll all try to video render while crunching at the same time.

ALL DA POINTZ

Can't do that well with any CPU.

God no. Avarage users have no need to buy anything over two cores. But a high end chip isn't for avarage users.

Hence why it isn't on 2011 and came out on 1151 the average socket.

 

[Mindweaver]

Read the fucking post.

Oddly, this post I didn't find boring.. Let's ask more nicely in the future buddy. Let's all keep it civil, warning issued.

 

[Ikaruga]

4. AVX has been around for several generations of CPUs and can add massive performance for applications that take advantage of those instructions. To date, not a simple game uses them. That is a silicon investment INTEL made and the tools to exploit it are there and freely available. Yet developers have not done so.

I think Grid2 uses AVX if avail, and since AVX2 can be used for integer operations too, compilers probably use it all the time for optimizations.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Lookit that, lots more room for more cores....oh wait.

Its not really about room. More cores would most definitely require more pins. Theres a platform for that too.

Oddly, this post I didn't find boring.. Let's ask more nicely in the future buddy. Let's all keep it civil, warning issued.

Will do. I just find he posts more often than not without actually reading the article.

 

[TheHunter]

Crysis3 or MHF online or GTA5 or newer COD's as well, mostly by game loading.

 

[ensabrenoir]

Speak for yourself buddy I think I might get Zen just for S&G's.

....so the choices are: spend money on over priced hardware that does deliver or....

spend money on tech thats over hyped but would have been awesome if it was release several years ago...

Either way :

one gonna hurt ya...and one gonna hurt ya...but you'll like it.

 

[newtekie1]

I know your expectations are low and everyone else that's ok with these tick, tick, tick, tick.. I gather that, but I choose for my expectations to be high.. I'm ready for a tock... You know push the envelope a little...

Oh and buddy, I'm not sure you understand where I'm coming from.. I don't care if they change the socket to get a 6 or 8 core cpu for at most $329. Everybody is stuck on the socket not supporting more than 4 cores. It hasn't stopped Intel from changing the socket on the last 5 i7's.. So, change it again... and I know we have 2011.. I'm looking for main stream being an x6 not an x4. OK, I've said what I want.. I'm becoming bored with it. buddy you have a blue screen free day!

Honestly, the 6-core being available for $390 is good. That is a $200 decrease in price compared to the 6-core from the previous generation.

There is no demand, or need, for more than 4c/8t in the mainstream, so what reason does Intel have to release even cheaper 6-core parts to the mainstream market?

 

[Toothless]

Honestly, the 6-core being available for $390 is good. That is a $200 decrease in price compared to the 6-core from the previous generation.

There is no demand, or need, for more than 4c/8t in the mainstream, so what reason does Intel have to release even cheaper 6-core parts to the mainstream market?

Poor people like me to get something op.

 

[cdawall]

Poor people like me to get something op.

Then get a cheap X99 the board is no more expensive

 

[newtekie1]

Then get a cheap X99 the board is no more expensive

Yep, going 2011-3 6c/12t is not that much more expensive than 1151 4c/8t.

Hell, you can go to newegg right now and get an X99 board for $150.