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Security should be left to the user not to MS, Apple or the government. Although it might be one of their excuses.
Until you are compromised by a lack of MS support or a bad patch. THEN it will be MS's fault.
 

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Bad MS patches are just that, don't matter if every thing is done though their shop or not.

They are going happen anyways as PC is not like Apple products and god forbid it ever being. To many combinations for MS to know about to have every patch to work for everyone which is why people want more control over the patches and not have them forced on to them.

Every thing being forced though MS shop only benefits MS, never mind having to log in and give personal data to do so. They would not be doing it for the better.

It is MS's fault to a degree, they forcing updates on people and the update will keep trying even though it keeps failing this to me is a major fail on ms's side were they should add some thing to the patches or OS to detect this so it quits trying to do some thing that keeps failing.

MS want to take your options away not give you more, they just want to police the PC without any come back on them when shit don't work right.
 

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Security should be left to the user not to MS, Apple or the government. Although it might be one of their excuses.

It should be up to all of them, but on different levels. Keeping stuff outside the kernel that has no business being there is definitely not part of a users role. Ditto with having different levels in the OS at all. Mandating rules for data theft is the governments task. Having a good security sense is up to the users, but they have proven useless at it, so then it's in the best interest of of the big companies to have strong policies (encrypting by default) and making things that makes it easier to have good security (password managers, biometric scanners, not giving everything admin access by default).
 

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It should be up to all of them, but on different levels. Keeping stuff outside the kernel that has no business being there is definitely not part of a users role. Ditto with having different levels in the OS. Mandating rules for data theft is the governments task. Having a good security sense is up to the users, but they have proven useless at it, so then it's in the best interest of of the big companies to have strong policies (encrypting by default) and making things that makes it easier to have good security (password managers, biometric scanners, not giving everything admin access by default).

I do agree with you but MS making it all a walled garden would not be the answer although i see it ending up that way.

In the end if you want to be secure stay disconnected as that's the only true way.

EDIT: I hope this puts Linux in hyper speed for PC gaming, i would of dumped MS OS many years ago if that happen.
 

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It should be up to all of them, but on different levels. Keeping stuff outside the kernel that has no business being there is definitely not part of a users role. Ditto with having different levels in the OS at all. Mandating rules for data theft is the governments task. Having a good security sense is up to the users, but they have proven useless at it, so then it's in the best interest of of the big companies to have strong policies (encrypting by default) and making things that makes it easier to have good security (password managers, biometric scanners, not giving everything admin access by default).
I concur.
 
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