• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Toshiba Announces New BG SSDs with 3-Bit-Per-Cell (TLC) BiCS Flash

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,448 (7.50/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. (TAEC), a committed technology leader, will showcase its new BG series solid state drive (SSD) family featuring cutting-edge BiCS FLASH with 3-bit-per-cell TLC (triple-level cell) technology and Toshiba's new single-package ball grid array (BGA) NVMe PCI Express (PCIe) Gen3 x2 SSD at the 2016 Flash Memory Summit held in Santa Clara, California between August 8 - 11. Delivering a smaller footprint, lower power consumption and better performance than traditional storage options, the BG SSD series is purpose-built for the future wave of ultra-thin mobile PCs, including 2-in-1 convertible notebooks and tablets.

With a surface area 95 percent smaller than conventional 2.5-inch SATA storage devices and 82 percent smaller than M.2 Type 22806, the Toshiba BG series condenses both the controller and NAND flash memory in a single 16 mm x 20 mm BGA package enabling device manufacturers to prioritize features like battery capacity for longer operating times. The BG series is also available mounted on a M.2 Type 22307 module for applications requiring socketed storage. BG SSDs utilize BiCS FLASH, a three-dimensional (3D) stacked cell structure, making it possible to accommodate up to 512 GB of storage capacity in this high-performance and compact form factor. Additionally, the BG series SSDs utilize an in-house Toshiba-developed controller and firmware for a full, vertically developed solution, ensuring technology is tightly integrated for optimal performance, power consumption and reliability.

"We are thrilled to unveil the new BG series with BiCS FLASH which will deliver both a rich feature-set and high performance all within an extremely small footprint and power profile," said Jeremy Werner, vice president of SSD marketing and product planning at Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. "We expect to be in production this year with BiCS FLASH BGA SSDs, offering our customers a compelling and cost-effective storage solution for the next generation of high performance ultra-thin and light notebooks and tablets."

To deliver a more compact and power efficient drive, while still delivering excellent performance in client workloads, the BG series implements the latest NVMe standard Host Memory Buffer (HMB) feature which will be showcased during the 2016 Flash Memory Summit as a reference exhibition. HMB allocates and employs host DRAM for flash management purposes in contrast to alternative solutions that contain costly and power-hungry dedicated DRAM to perform similar functions. Host Memory Buffer technology can enable increased performance over solutions without DRAM by storing lookup data on host memory to reduce access times for commonly accessed data.

The Toshiba BG SSD Family will be available in 128 GB, 256 GB or 512 GB capacities in both a 16 mm x 20 mm package (M.2 Type 1620) or a removable M.2 Type 2230 module. Samples of Toshiba BGA SSDs are initially available for limited PC OEM customers, and will be available for other customers to develop with in the fourth calendar quarter of 2016.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.86/day)
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
18,056 (2.44/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.

Don't blurt out stupid things like this without understanding the product. This is a single chip SSD, there are limitations to what can physically be done.

 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.86/day)
"blurt out stupid things". First bragging about how tiny it is and then not using that as an obvious advantage. Who cares if M.2 is so tiny when basically every single device has slots for 5 times the size of this one. What's the frigging point?

Samsung doesn't have M.2 beyond 512GB because they can't stuff enough chips on it. Here, they have that capability, but they don't use it. Ok...
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
18,056 (2.44/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
"blurt out stupid things". First bragging about how tiny it is and then not using that as an obvious advantage. Who cares if M.2 is so tiny when basically every single device has slots for 5 times the size of this one. What's the frigging point?

Samsung doesn't have M.2 beyond 512GB because they can't stuff enough chips on it. Here, they have that capability, but they don't use it. Ok...

This is for ultra portable notebooks etc. it's not intended for large devices. It's also most likely a very low cost solution. Also, keep in mind that not everyone has your budget when they buy a computer...
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
14,223 (3.79/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name H7 Flow 2024
Processor AMD 5800X3D
Motherboard Asus X570 Tough Gaming
Cooling Custom liquid
Memory 32 GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Intel ARC A750
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 2TB.
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse Lenovo
Keyboard Eweadn Mechanical
Software W11 Pro 64 bit
With devices becoming smaller, these small drives are space savers, having two slots on a board with raid will only improve things.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,996 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.
Yes, you are.
Not many want to pay $300+ for storage. Plus, what do you fill 1TB with? Because music and movies can sit on a HDD very well.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.86/day)
And what have you done then, still having HDD next to it? Just so Windows boots slightly faster? Pointless waste of money. Either SSD caching with HDD or full SSD. Anything else is wanking.
 
Joined
Nov 5, 2004
Messages
385 (0.05/day)
Location
Belgium, Leuven
Processor I7-6700
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Pro4S
Cooling 2*120mm
Memory G.Skill D416GB 3200-14 Trident Z K2 GSK
Video Card(s) Rx480 Sapphire
Storage SSD Samsung 256GB 850 pro + bunch of TB
Case Antec
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply be quit 900W
Mouse Logitech G5
Keyboard Logitech G11
The size is 1,6cm on 2,0cm. I find it amazing they were able to fit 512GB on it.
 
Joined
Apr 11, 2013
Messages
18 (0.00/day)
It is good product but I am not sure if the thermal can be solved. In this kind of form factor, and PCIe Gen3 is used, how to warrant the balance between performance and thermal?
Is it only a product in lab? I had done similar product for SATA and PCIe but the thermal and yield rate are problem.
 
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Messages
504 (0.13/day)
Location
Cyprus
Processor 13700KF - 5.7GHZ
Motherboard Z690 UNIFY-X
Cooling ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 (NF-A12x25)
Memory 2x16 G.SKILL M-DIE (7200-34-44-44-28)
Video Card(s) XFX MERC 7900XT
Storage 1TB KINGSTON KC3000
Display(s) FI32Q
Case LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC EVO
Audio Device(s) HD599
Power Supply RMX1000
Mouse PULSAR V2H
Keyboard KEYCHRON V3 (DUROCK T1 + MT3 GODSPEED R2)
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Superposition 4k optimized - 20652
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.
Yes you are a tiny minority of rich guys. Why should i not get a 3tb drive at 100$-130$ and get 3x 1tb SSD for 220$ each ? (220 is the cheapest one i found). You get a single small ssd for OS and games(not needed to have installed 20 games simultaneously) and a big HDD for media and other stuff, the difference would be non-existed if instead of that 3tb drive i had SSDs.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.86/day)
"Rich" he said XD Wishful thinking. I'm not rich, I was just thinking long term. Very long term. One of reasons why I've got Pro instead of Evo as well... I've also had M.2 AHCI SSD and couldn't see much difference in real world usage, meaning even if everything migrates to M.2 or U.2 in the future and SATA becomes "obsolete", it'll still serve me perfectly fine with 550MB sequential and superb random performance. I was just tired of slow, grinding drives with spinning plates. You really start to appreciate SSD's when you toss away all the HDD's...
 
Joined
Nov 5, 2004
Messages
385 (0.05/day)
Location
Belgium, Leuven
Processor I7-6700
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Pro4S
Cooling 2*120mm
Memory G.Skill D416GB 3200-14 Trident Z K2 GSK
Video Card(s) Rx480 Sapphire
Storage SSD Samsung 256GB 850 pro + bunch of TB
Case Antec
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster Z
Power Supply be quit 900W
Mouse Logitech G5
Keyboard Logitech G11
Got myself a samsung 850PRO 256GB; I can put on all the active games I play; for storage I use my old HDD´s. But to be honest, the need for large amount of storages are dwindling for me. I have about 7TB in total, only actively using 3TB (others are disconnected). And that number is going down. SSD rate of size increase is like how it was in the 90´s. We have so long been fed only small increases each year because of the limitations of the technology (they are added Helium now to larger HDD´s I believe)

The time to go forth to the petabyte is finally here.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,996 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
And what have you done then, still having HDD next to it? Just so Windows boots slightly faster? Pointless waste of money. Either SSD caching with HDD or full SSD. Anything else is wanking.
What the hell are you talking about?
Will you watch a movie in 10 minutes if it's on a SSD? Listen to a whole album in 5?
Programs on a SSD make sense. Data? Not so much (because you don't have huge databases at home). And for what needs to be on a SSD, 512GB is plenty. Sure, I'd love to get rid of HDDs completely (not for the reasons you think), but hey, they're going for peanuts these days, so they still have their uses.

Since you brought it up: why do you think a HDD next to a SSD is pointless anyway?
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2012
Messages
777 (0.17/day)
Location
Norway
System Name Games/internet/usage
Processor I7 5820k 4.2 Ghz
Motherboard ASUS X99-A2
Cooling custom water loop for cpu and gpu
Memory 16GiB Crucial Ballistix Sport 2666 MHz
Video Card(s) Radeon Rx 6800 XT
Storage Samsung XP941 500 GB + 1 TB SSD
Display(s) Dell 3008WFP
Case Caselabs Magnum M8
Audio Device(s) Shiit Modi 2 Uber -> Matrix m-stage -> HD650
Power Supply beQuiet dark power pro 1200W
Mouse Logitech MX518
Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB
Software Win 10 Pro
What the hell are you talking about?
Will you watch a movie in 10 minutes if it's on a SSD? Listen to a whole album in 5?
Programs on a SSD make sense. Data? Not so much (because you don't have huge databases at home). And for what needs to be on a SSD, 512GB is plenty. Sure, I'd love to get rid of HDDs completely (not for the reasons you think), but hey, they're going for peanuts these days, so they still have their uses.

Since you brought it up: why do you think a HDD next to a SSD is pointless anyway?

A large SSD in stead of a HDD + SSD combo is useful if the systems is designed to be quiet (properly quiet, not this "HUR DUR 1200 RPM fans are inaudible HUR DUR" but all passive or only a few slow fans).

also, with 2 of these you can make a RAID 0 setup on a small M2 disk, or stick 16 of these on a 16X card for 8 TB of storage, that would probably require some driver magic for the OS to se them as one drive, but hey, 8 TB drive with off the shelf components in a small package would be fun.

A problem could be what to do if the drive fails? do you have to change the hole motherboard, as the drive is soldered to it or is there a socket like solution like there were for old BIOS chips?
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,996 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
A large SSD in stead of a HDD + SSD combo is useful if the systems is designed to be quiet (properly quiet, not this "HUR DUR 1200 RPM fans are inaudible HUR DUR" but all passive or only a few slow fans).

also, with 2 of these you can make a RAID 0 setup on a small M2 disk, or stick 16 of these on a 16X card for 8 TB of storage, that would probably require some driver magic for the OS to se them as one drive, but hey, 8 TB drive with off the shelf components in a small package would be fun.

A problem could be what to do if the drive fails? do you have to change the hole motherboard, as the drive is soldered to it or is there a socket like solution like there were for old BIOS chips?
Well, I never said large SSDs aren't better. But at the current prices, I'd rather get a bunch of HDDs and lock them up in a NAS somewhere if noise was bothering me.
 
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
872 (0.14/day)
Location
Copenhagen, Denmark
System Name Ryzen/Laptop/htpc
Processor R9 3900X/i7 6700HQ/i7 2600
Motherboard AsRock X470 Taichi/Acer/ Gigabyte H77M
Cooling Corsair H115i pro with 2 Noctua NF-A14 chromax/OEM/Noctua NH-L12i
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 32GB @3200/16GB DDR4 2666 HyperX impact/24GB
Video Card(s) TUL Red Dragon Vega 56/Intel HD 530 - GTX 950m/ 970 GTX
Storage 970pro NVMe 512GB,Samsung 860evo 1TB, 3x4TB WD gold/Transcend 830s, 1TB Toshiba/Adata 256GB + 1TB WD
Display(s) Philips FTV 32 inch + Dell 2407WFP-HC/OEM/Sony KDL-42W828B
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe/Acer Barebone/Enermax
Audio Device(s) SoundBlasterX AE-5 (Dell A525)(HyperX Cloud Alpha)/mojo/soundblaster xfi gamer
Power Supply Seasonic focus+ 850 platinum (SSR-850PX)/165 Watt power brick/Enermax 650W
Mouse G502 Hero/M705 Marathon/G305 Hero Lightspeed
Keyboard G19/oem/Steelseries Apex 300
Software Win10 pro 64bit
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.
with my tinfoil hat on i would say that there is a deliberate lack of "push" for ssd's until segate and wd decide that they dont want to produce any more crappy hdd's.
without my tinfoil hat on i would say that the adoption rate is acceptable, i mean the hdd of my first pc was a 27GB barracuda, and that was 15 years ago, thats not a long time if you think about it.
but i agree with you on the stupidity of the situation, if the companies wanted to push for faster adoption they could very easily.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xvi

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,996 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
with my tinfoil hat on i would say that there is a deliberate lack of "push" for ssd's until segate and wd decide that they dont want to produce any more crappy hdd's.
without my tinfoil hat on i would say that the adoption rate is acceptable, i mean the hdd of my first pc was a 27GB barracuda, and that was 15 years ago, thats not a long time if you think about it.
but i agree with you on the stupidity of the situation, if the companies wanted to push for faster adoption they could very easily.
Ha, about a decade earlier, my fist HDD was a roomy 37MB. I had it split into two partitions.
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2012
Messages
777 (0.17/day)
Location
Norway
System Name Games/internet/usage
Processor I7 5820k 4.2 Ghz
Motherboard ASUS X99-A2
Cooling custom water loop for cpu and gpu
Memory 16GiB Crucial Ballistix Sport 2666 MHz
Video Card(s) Radeon Rx 6800 XT
Storage Samsung XP941 500 GB + 1 TB SSD
Display(s) Dell 3008WFP
Case Caselabs Magnum M8
Audio Device(s) Shiit Modi 2 Uber -> Matrix m-stage -> HD650
Power Supply beQuiet dark power pro 1200W
Mouse Logitech MX518
Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB
Software Win 10 Pro
Got an even better idea, put 16 of these on a card with sockets for each one so that they can be replaced if they break, use one as OS drive and have the 15 other in a software raid 5 array at 7 TB, plug the card into a ITX board and you could potentially have a sub 5 l server with a fast 7 TB raid array, if the CPU is halfway decent with a ok GPU and low power you could, in theory have it as a nice HTPPC/Server/NAS for the living room. with a laptop PSU and a passively cooled CPU it would also be properly quiet.
 
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
872 (0.14/day)
Location
Copenhagen, Denmark
System Name Ryzen/Laptop/htpc
Processor R9 3900X/i7 6700HQ/i7 2600
Motherboard AsRock X470 Taichi/Acer/ Gigabyte H77M
Cooling Corsair H115i pro with 2 Noctua NF-A14 chromax/OEM/Noctua NH-L12i
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 32GB @3200/16GB DDR4 2666 HyperX impact/24GB
Video Card(s) TUL Red Dragon Vega 56/Intel HD 530 - GTX 950m/ 970 GTX
Storage 970pro NVMe 512GB,Samsung 860evo 1TB, 3x4TB WD gold/Transcend 830s, 1TB Toshiba/Adata 256GB + 1TB WD
Display(s) Philips FTV 32 inch + Dell 2407WFP-HC/OEM/Sony KDL-42W828B
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe/Acer Barebone/Enermax
Audio Device(s) SoundBlasterX AE-5 (Dell A525)(HyperX Cloud Alpha)/mojo/soundblaster xfi gamer
Power Supply Seasonic focus+ 850 platinum (SSR-850PX)/165 Watt power brick/Enermax 650W
Mouse G502 Hero/M705 Marathon/G305 Hero Lightspeed
Keyboard G19/oem/Steelseries Apex 300
Software Win10 pro 64bit
Ha, about a decade earlier, my fist HDD was a roomy 37MB. I had it split into two partitions.
LOL good ol times.. that was my point though, in 2 1/2 decades we went form MB's to TB's and from platters to nand flash, for the given time period i think the progress made is amazing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: xvi
Joined
Nov 10, 2006
Messages
4,666 (0.70/day)
Location
Washington, US
System Name Rainbow
Processor Intel Core i7 8700k
Motherboard MSI MPG Z390M GAMING EDGE AC
Cooling Corsair H115i, 2x Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM
Memory G. Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB (F4-3600C16Q-32GTZR)
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity
Storage 2x Samsung 950 Pro 256GB | 2xHGST Deskstar 4TB 7.2K
Display(s) Samsung C27HG70
Case Xigmatek Aquila
Power Supply Seasonic 760W SS-760XP
Mouse Razer Deathadder 2013
Keyboard Corsair Vengeance K95
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 4 trillion points in GmailMark, over 144 FPS 2K Facebook Scrolling (Extreme Quality preset)
Not many want to pay $300+ for storage. Plus, what do you fill 1TB with? Because music and movies can sit on a HDD very well.
I have two 7.2K RPM 1TB mechanical drives in my laptop as storage with two 256GB M.2 SSDs for OS/programs and I'm making good progress filling up the mechanicals with Steam games. I'd like to change the mechanicals out for low-cost SSDs simply because I don't like having the mechanicals being thrown around (and also a bit faster loading of programs).
I do fall into the category of those who don't want to pay.. uh.. *quickly googles prices* $200-300 US per drive to do that though.
 
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
872 (0.14/day)
Location
Copenhagen, Denmark
System Name Ryzen/Laptop/htpc
Processor R9 3900X/i7 6700HQ/i7 2600
Motherboard AsRock X470 Taichi/Acer/ Gigabyte H77M
Cooling Corsair H115i pro with 2 Noctua NF-A14 chromax/OEM/Noctua NH-L12i
Memory G.Skill Trident Z 32GB @3200/16GB DDR4 2666 HyperX impact/24GB
Video Card(s) TUL Red Dragon Vega 56/Intel HD 530 - GTX 950m/ 970 GTX
Storage 970pro NVMe 512GB,Samsung 860evo 1TB, 3x4TB WD gold/Transcend 830s, 1TB Toshiba/Adata 256GB + 1TB WD
Display(s) Philips FTV 32 inch + Dell 2407WFP-HC/OEM/Sony KDL-42W828B
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe/Acer Barebone/Enermax
Audio Device(s) SoundBlasterX AE-5 (Dell A525)(HyperX Cloud Alpha)/mojo/soundblaster xfi gamer
Power Supply Seasonic focus+ 850 platinum (SSR-850PX)/165 Watt power brick/Enermax 650W
Mouse G502 Hero/M705 Marathon/G305 Hero Lightspeed
Keyboard G19/oem/Steelseries Apex 300
Software Win10 pro 64bit
I have two 7.2K RPM 1TB mechanical drives in my laptop as storage with two 256GB M.2 SSDs for OS/programs and I'm making good progress filling up the mechanicals with Steam games. I'd like to change the mechanicals out for low-cost SSDs simply because I don't like having the mechanicals being thrown around (and also a bit faster loading of programs).
I do fall into the category of those who don't want to pay.. uh.. *quickly googles prices* $200-300 US per drive to do that though.
holy crap! thats not a laptop, that a monster!!! :D totally agree though, that price is ridiculous for hard drives in this day and age. i feel that these prices might be artificially kept this high (puts tinfoil hat on) :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: xvi
Joined
Nov 5, 2014
Messages
714 (0.19/day)
Are we, the users of 1TB and more SSD drives really such tiny minority that most companies still keep on insistin on max 512GB !? I just can't understand people running SSD for boot drive and then everything else still on crappy ass HDD.

Personally I just grandfather down my SSDs when I upgrade, I.E in my X79 rig I have the following SSDs:

1: 400GB Intel 750 PCI-E NVMe SSD - Main boot/files/games drive.
2: 250GB Samsung 840 SATA3 SSD - Secondary games drive.
4: 480GB OCZ Bigfoot SATA2 SSD - Downloads folder and old games.

More than enough space for all my games (media/backups are on a Synology NAS in the attic) and no need to shell out money on a huge SSD (technically the Bigfoot was the biggest on the market when I bought it but meh).
 
Joined
Apr 16, 2015
Messages
306 (0.09/day)
System Name Zen
Processor Ryzen 5950X
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Noctua
Memory G.Skill 32G
Video Card(s) RX 7900 XTX
Storage never enough
Display(s) not OLED :-(
Keyboard Wooting One
Software Linux
vertically developed solution

what? how is vertically better than diagonally developed? or spirally? what does it even mean?
 
Top