Samsung Bets on GDDR6 for 2018 Rollout

[medi01]

by your logic any comparable product cannot be compared if it falls out of a price range

Yay, how surprising, isn't it? News at 10!

Oh wait, we do have comparably priced products, 980 vs 1070, 980Ti vs 1080.
But let's compare 1070 vs 970 and 1080 vs 980, to get bogus higher "improvement" numbers, shall we.

 

[BiggieShady]

But let's compare 1070 vs 970 and 1080 vs 980, to get bogus higher "improvement" numbers, shall we.

Yes, why wouldn't we look at generational improvement this way, and include separate metric called performance per dollar just for you ... oh wait we have that already

 

[medi01]

Yes, why wouldn't we look at generational improvement this way compare cards from different price tiers

FTFY

 

[BiggieShady]

FTFY

I have an idea, why don't we stop derailing this thread since we aren't even talking about the same thing

 

[medi01]

Real comparison, AIB vs AIB about 20% improvement for cards at roughly the same price:

1070 vs 980
1080 vs 980Ti
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08...x-480/2/#diagramm-performancerating-1920-1080

More interesting, however, is power consumption improvements (same source, total system power consumption):
980 => 1060
235w => 188w, new gen consumes 80% of the prev gen

390 => 480
364w => 232w, new gen consumes 64% of the prv gen

nVidia is still quite ahead in perf/watt, but gap is smaller.

 

[64K]

Yay, how surprising, isn't it? News at 10!

Oh wait, we do have comparably priced products, 980 vs 1070, 980Ti vs 1080.
But let's compare 1070 vs 970 and 1080 vs 980, to get bogus higher "improvement" numbers, shall we.

That won't fly. When comparing generations you compare improvement over the last generation to see what the new generation offers. Nvidia is fairly predictable for a while now. They offer introductory, mid range and high end GPUs. The 980 Ti is a high end Maxwell and the 1080 is an upper mid range Pascal GPU but it's not in the same league as the current Flagship GPU Titan X.

When/if Nvidia releases a 1080 Ti then compare that to the 980 Ti to see what improvement Pascal offers. Prices don't determine where a GPU falls within Nvidia's stack.

 

[medi01]

Prices don't determine where a GPU falls within Nvidia's stack.

Customer couldn't care less, where something falls at some headquarters, 450 Euro card is irrelevant for buyers of 300 Euro cards.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Customer couldn't care less, where something falls at some headquarters, 450 Euro card is irrelevant for buyers of 300 Euro cards.

It doesn't frickin matter whether consumers buy at a price tier. It doesn't change the FACTS of what model replaces what model. Like numbers are intended as direct replacement for the same number series in the previous generation. NVIDIA has been very clear about this for at least the last 6 years! Have you been sleeping in a world of sugar plums and delusions?