Intel Core i7-7700K "Kaby Lake" SANDRA Scores Surface

[Parn]

As expected Kaby Lake is just another filler designed to milk the consumers with minimal improvement while Intel fine tune their 10nm production line for Cannonlake/Ice Lake. With literally no competition from AMD at the moment, Intel can afford whatever they want.

 

[ernorator]

GOGO AMD! SAVE US....

 

[$ReaPeR$]

7.85% more GFLOPS
7.35% more Mpix/s
5.00% higher clockspeed

So, in terms of IPC, Kaby Lake is only 2.35-2.85% faster than Skylake which begs the question, "why does Kaby Lake exist?" There's no doubt in my mind that Intel could sell a Skylake 6750K with 4.2 GHz clock speed defeating the purpose of introducing another architecture.

because they have to sell "new" stuff every year to look good to the consumer and their investors.

 

[Brusfantomet]

7.85% more GFLOPS
7.35% more Mpix/s
5.00% higher clockspeed

So, in terms of IPC, Kaby Lake is only 2.35-2.85% faster than Skylake which begs the question, "why does Kaby Lake exist?" There's no doubt in my mind that Intel could sell a Skylake 6750K with 4.2 GHz clock speed defeating the purpose of introducing another architecture.

Its actually worse than that, the measured increase in IPC is 2,7% for GFLOPS(1,0785/1,05) and 2,2% for Mpix/s (1,0735/1,05).

Comparing the Xeon versions of them we see that the E3 1275 V5 at 3,6 Ghz with IGP is a 80W part, while the E3 1275 V6 at 3,8 with IGP is a 78 W part, add inn the anemic IPC increase at approximately 2,5 % and this seams like one massive let down performance wise.

 

[Mindweaver]

I don't know why a lot of users are getting upset over this? This is standard Intel practice.. This isn't one to get upset over... Get upset when they release a new chip next year with a new socket... lol I mean really? The cycle is pretty clear with 2x 1155, 2x 1150, and now 2x 1151 chips.

It's all marketing at this point with the second round cpu.. Clearly Intel didn't make enough money off of Devil's Canyon 4790 to offer a 6790k solution, but honestly who is going to upgrade from a 6xxx series cpu to a new faster clocked 6790 cpu? Not enough to matter... but consumers will see the 7xxx series and say oh I need that because it's faster due to the higher cpu name.. lol

 

[alucasa]

General consumers will get these anyway as with OEMs.

But me's going backwards to Haswell-E path for more cores.

 

[ShurikN]

That IPC increase is amazing.

 

[ensabrenoir]

GOGO AMD! SAVE US....

........gonna have to wait til next year......to get Intel's last years performance. Till then we got another 2 months of hype building followed by two months of silence and then a very slow trickle of back peddling.

 

[Sasqui]

7.85% more GFLOPS
7.35% more Mpix/s
5.00% higher clockspeed

So, in terms of IPC, Kaby Lake is only 2.35-2.85% faster than Skylake which begs the question, "why does Kaby Lake exist?" There's no doubt in my mind that Intel could sell a Skylake 6750K with 4.2 GHz clock speed defeating the purpose of introducing another architecture.

Thanks for doing the math, puts it into perspective.

 

[Octopuss]

As a smart person who only does major upgrades to his PC once every roughly five years, I am not going apeshit angry over this stuff that givs you guys borderline heart attack. I have i7 3770K in my PC and will happily upgrade to Kaby Lake when it his this banana country.

 

[Frick]

I don't know why a lot of users are getting upset over this? This is standard Intel practice.. This isn't one to get upset over... Get upset when they release a new chip next year with a new socket... lol I mean really? The cycle is pretty clear with 2x 1155, 2x 1150, and now 2x 1151 chips.

This is actally the end of the tick-tock model. This was supposed to be a die shrink, not just an update.

 

[Casecutter]

A Tick - a Tock, while now just up the clocks...

It all about their foundry than chip engineering for like a while now.

 

[GhostRyder]

Not much overall, though I did not expect much it still is a bit more shallow than I was expecting. More interested in what the chipset will bring since that seems to be the only reason to upgrade to this (Well, if there is a reason and you have anything from recent history).

 

[Nobody99]

lol I mean really? The cycle is pretty clear with 2x 1155, 2x 1150, and now 2x 1151 chips.

That is actually counter producitve, user will not upgrade if she/he has "latest but one" CPU and when new socket comes user can't upgrade because then she/he also needs to buy new motherboard.

 

[Sasqui]

As a smart person who only does major upgrades to his PC once every roughly five years, I am not going apeshit angry over this stuff that givs you guys borderline heart attack. I have i7 3770K in my PC and will happily upgrade to Kaby Lake when it his this banana country.

I must say the 4970k I got was a nice punch over the 3570k I have, though the only tangible gain was more Crunching points That said, bot were overclocked to 4.7 Ghz, though the air cooler on the 4970k doesn't quite cut it.

 

[Mindweaver]

This is actally the end of the tick-tock model. This was supposed to be a die shrink, not just an update.

Yea, I know they are doing away with the Tick-Tock model, but I've yet to see it other than not calling it "tick-tock".. hehe I don't see them changing the cycle anytime soon, but we will see. I just hope it's good for us buddy... I think we need Zen to be great more than AMD.. lol I just dread going back to pin's.. lol

That is actually counter producitve, user will not upgrade if she/he has "latest but one" CPU and when new socket comes user can't upgrade because then she/he also needs to buy new motherboard.

Who are you telling? hehe I never said it was productive, but it's profitable for Intel clearly.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

Why do you even care if they release new stuff every year? Just use what you got, buy new rig when you need it not because you feel inferior by having "not the newest" stuff. Anyone with common sense will upgrade at reasonable intervals like every 5 years. For those that have been looking for update from way back like Sandy Bridge or earlier it makes sense to grab the latest incremental update.

 

[Dimi]

Exactly, its nice for people who NEED to upgrade. Just because Intel decides to release a new line of CPU's every year doesn't mean you HAVE to upgrade, sheesh. Some people are completely retarded or just hate on Intel fueled by AMD Fanboyism.

People don't realise that most products get an upgrade/change every year. Every year there's a new model of the same car, tv, dryer, fridge, cellphone whatever you can think of. You want to hate on those brands too?

 

[BorisDG]

No love or recognition for the i7-5775C? Broadwell was so quickly forgotten...

5775C rocks. Visit the overclock thread to see some very interesting results against 6700K or 4790K. For gaming is the choice. Downsides was price and "old" Z97 socket.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Exactly, its nice for people who NEED to upgrade. Just because Intel decides to release a new line of CPU's every year doesn't mean you HAVE to upgrade, sheesh. Some people are completely retarded or just hate on Intel fueled by AMD Fanboyism.

People don't realise that most products get an upgrade/change every year. Every year there's a new model of the same car, tv, dryer, fridge, cellphone whatever you can think of. You want to hate on those brands too?

Damn right, hell I'm still happy with my i7 920, this would be a fine upgrade.

You have to understand AMD fans are basically victims now, lashing out at a free market that doesn't seem to care as much about AMD as they do.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Damn right, hell I'm still happy with my i7 920, this would be a fine upgrade.

You have to understand AMD fans are basically victims now, lashing out at a free market that doesn't seem to care as much about AMD as they do.

I just bred new life into a i7 920 rig i built 8 years ago for someones workstation by installing an SSD. I have used SSds for so long for my builds that i forgot how fast it can make a system coming from a mechanical used for the OS.

 

[TheGuruStud]

Thanks for doing the math, puts it into perspective.

That's not accurate b/c of turbo. If it turbos more under a multithreaded load, then IPC gain is zero.

 

[Vlada011]

This is absurd.
We will be more excited with motherboards than with performance of Processors.
Motherboards are my favorite hardware.

 

[Prima.Vera]

As a smart person who only does major upgrades to his PC once every roughly five years, I am not going apeshit angry over this stuff that givs you guys borderline heart attack. I have i7 3770K in my PC and will happily upgrade to Kaby Lake when it his this banana country.

I have the 3770K too. Do you really think is worth upgrading over this p.o.s. CPU?

 

[Octopuss]

I have the 3770K too. Do you really think is worth upgrading over this p.o.s. CPU?

Why would it be piece of shit? Maybe if you have the immediate predecessor (and only if you go by gains vs previous generation), but not if your CPU is five years old.
Now that I think about it, I don't even need the performance, I am mostly upgrading because of the platform features.