EVGA GTX 1070/1080 Overheating Issues Update - New BIOS Revision To Be Released

[cdawall]

Come on now lad you didn't say anything about a track you said a new 5.0 (gt350) going 150 mph which is bullshit anyway because they are limited to 135mph which they wont overheat at cruising down the highway.
But please tell me more about how crap modified track mustangs overheat going 150mph on a track so I can laugh some more.

The GT350 has a 5.2L in it, the regular GT has the 5.0 in it, it (the GT to avoid confusion) has a governor at 164MPH. We aren't talking about the V6 here. Also no one said modified I said they overheat in 20minute plus track blasts. Which is a true statement and can be sited if you would like. Do you want to know the exact parts of the cars causing the issues? Because not only does the engine start to warm up, but the rear differential will go into an overheat and yes it has a temp sensor.

Please continue I have done this for a living.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Yep, I don't really care how you want to swing it around, I'm not prepared to risk damaging the card. No one can even read the temps of the VRMs like you can with AMD cards, no reading comes up in GPU-Z to monitor it with Nvidia cards.

I guess I could just use it anyway, if it blows then covered by EVGA warranty.

EVGA have screwed up on this one, whichever way you look at it, just like they did with the 970 SC cards, by using previous generation coolers to save money on designing new ones. Months later EVGA released new 970 cards ended with new designed coolers - SSC and FTW+ versions.

The SC version is on there, VRMs reach 96°C and all it's running is 3DMark Firestrike.

I know the SC is on there and yes, I know about the SC hot spot. The FTW however has a custom PCB and one would have thought that cooler would have been designed for it; considering you pay more for the better cooling solution and power delivery... Also, the SC has 5 power phases and the FTW having 12, meaning, that too would have helped lowering temperature at the VRM area. My guess is; that maybe that is why they figured they don't need to add thermal pads, I guess EVGA was wrong on that one.

 

[Solidstate89]

The founders edition doesn't overheat or thermal throttle.

So it doesn't rapidly pull clock speeds when approaching 83C?

Fascinating.

 

[ssdpro]

Just for reference, the guy moaning about car cooling and inability to maintain temp has no idea what he is talking about. Nor does this have anything to do with EVGA using junk aftermarket coolers.

 

[cdawall]

Just for reference, the guy moaning about car cooling and inability to maintain temp has no idea what he is talking about. Nor does this have anything to do with EVGA using junk aftermarket coolers.

Would you like to make a bet? Like right now I am at a loss for the level of stupid I am reading. It is almost as if none of you have ever raced on a track. Ever.

 

[Air]

Damn I was about to pull the trigger on a GTX 1070 SC.... dont know what to do now. Will TPU reevaluate the card with the new bios? The noise levels and cooling performance were amazing.... what a shame.

 

[cdawall]

Damn I was about to pull the trigger on a GTX 1070 SC.... dont know what to do now. Will TPU reevaluate the card with the new bios? The noise levels and cooling performance were amazing.... what a shame.

The thermal pad without the new BIOS would put you in the "safe" zone as well as the VRM's being better cooled.

 

[jormungand]

People have learned their lesson. Don't buy crap brand GPU easy as that. EVGA can now go down where they were before this useless hype train.

Graps popcorn.

wanna know if you ever owned a EVGA card??? i have owned x2 gtx 570 in sli , a 670, 970 SSC and now the FTW 1070 and till now no issues at all. The hype train like you said is just in your little knowledge of what evga is.

 

[EarthDog]

Damn I was about to pull the trigger on a GTX 1070 SC.... dont know what to do now. Will TPU reevaluate the card with the new bios? The noise levels and cooling performance were amazing.... what a shame.

I can't imagine it to be much different, honestly. Sure it will be a little louder, but, it doesn't take much to keep these things cool... just a bit more airflow and it should be fine... thermal pads would obviously make it better, and likely prudent in a SFF case, particularly if overclocking the GPU.

 

[cdawall]

I can't imagine it to be much different, honestly. Sure it will be a little louder, but, it doesn't take much to keep these things cool... just a bit more airflow and it should be fine... thermal pads would obviously make it better, and likely prudent in a SFF case, particularly if overclocking the GPU.

He really doesn't need the BIOS with the thermal pads.

 

[jormungand]

 

[stiglet]

So it doesn't rapidly pull clock speeds when approaching 83C?

Fascinating.

No, it does not.

Learn the difference between clock speeds and boost speeds.

 

[ixi]

wanna know if you ever owned a EVGA card??? i have owned x2 gtx 570 in sli , a 670, 970 SSC and now the FTW 1070 and till now no issues at all. The hype train like you said is just in your little knowledge of what evga is.

Go run your GPU for 2/3 hours in furmark ;D.

Yes, I have never owned EVGA and never will spend money on them.

Let's see what Brands have I owned. Asus, MSI, Gigabyte maybe even Sapphire second hand, but can't remember correctly.

And I was using for two years reference MSI HD 6970 ONLY with 40% max fan speed. While GPU temp. where all the time around 90°C no problems in GTA V for gaming sesions like 5/6 hours straight. GTA V, WoW, CS:GO, Arma 3 no problems at all.

And then there comes EVGA with custom everything and struggle is real . So yeah. Right now I my self have Gainward Phoenix 1070 testing this brand, so far so good.

 

[cdawall]

Go run your GPU for 2/3 hours in furmark ;D.

Yes, I have never owned EVGA and never will spend money on them.

Let's see what Brands have I owned. Asus, MSI, Gigabyte maybe even Sapphire second hand, but can't remember correctly.

And I was using for two years reference MSI HD 6970 ONLY with 40% max fan speed. While GPU temp. where all the time around 90°C no problems in GTA V for gaming sesions like 5/6 hours straight. GTA V, WoW, CS:GO, Arma 3 no problems at all.

And then there comes EVGA with custom everything and struggle is real . So yeah. Right now I my self have Gainward Phoenix 1070 testing this brand, so far so good.

Did you just compare a 6970 to the 1070's? I would also be curious what a tear down showed on that Gainward. The less popular brands don't typically get press when they have issues, but the common belief on here is that no manufacturer, but EVGA is bad. GB and MSI make some junk with cheaped out PWM sections left and right just FYI.

 

[ixi]

Did you just compare a 6970 to the 1070's? I would also be curious what a tear down showed on that Gainward. The less popular brands don't typically get press when they have issues, but the common belief on here is that no manufacturer, but EVGA is bad. GB and MSI make some junk with cheaped out PWM sections left and right just FYI.

I did compare reference PCB, cooler to awesome "EVGA" custom PCB and cooler. So yeah. Reference kicked your EVGA in nutts pretty hard.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Did you just compare a 6970 to the 1070's? I would also be curious what a tear down showed on that Gainward. The less popular brands don't typically get press when they have issues, but the common belief on here is that no manufacturer, but EVGA is bad. GB and MSI make some junk with cheaped out PWM sections left and right just FYI.

Yep no manufacturer is flawless and innocent, take this whole MICRON memory debacle on the GTX1070's, the general public didn't even know that the default SAMSUNG memory was replaced by MICRON memory and look how that ended up. I had a GTX1070 GAMING X at first, but since day one I had artifacts with my card, or the card would lock up my machine. I used GPU-Z and saw that my card used Micron instead of Samsung. I did make a post on reddit pondering if the issue was caused because perhaps the chips haD different operating requirements, I guess I was right.

It's the reason I went with the EVGA card after I swapped out my MSi, I got my Samsung memory alrighty, but now this... hehehe

 

[cdawall]

I did compare reference PCB, cooler to awesome "EVGA" custom PCB and cooler. So yeah. Reference kicked your EVGA in nutts pretty hard.

I have a sapphire card. On the note of your argument the 6970 isn't quite in the same league for power consumption in Furmark. . .

 

[efikkan]

This is really disappointing of EVGA. Bumping up the fan speed is not really a solution, since that will make all cards more noisy, even when not running FurMark. Any customers buying these cards after November 1st will get more noisy cards than the ones in reviews. Nevertheless, these cards are defective, and should have been replaced.

I've already built a machine with an EVGA GTX 1060, which has excellent noise levels. But "upgrading" the BIOS with a noisy fan profile to cool the VRMs is out of the question. I was planning to put a GTX 1070 and the upcoming "GTX 1080 Ti" in a couple of machines. The ACX coolers from EVGA has been my top choice, but when they manage to do these major design faults I wouldn't consider them again until they release a redesigned cooler. This is not a minor oversight, it's a major engineering fault and they couldn't have done proper QA on a single card. Amateurs!

 

[xorbe]

Yeah, cranking the fan up is not really an end-user friendly solution. Noise, and more wear and tear on the fan bearing

 

[cdawall]

Yeah, cranking the fan up is not really an end-user friendly solution. Noise, and more wear and tear on the fan bearing

LOL the fan will be fine. They are rated on a lifespan based at max rpm.

 

[efikkan]

Cranking up the fan will make the VRM cooler, but still not properly cooled. I'm more worried about the wear of the VRM than the fan.

 

[cdawall]

Cranking up the fan will make the VRM cooler, but still not properly cooled. I'm more worried about the wear of the VRM than the fan.

It is properly cooled they are rated for this all they needed was a smidgen more airflow. You know like every single videocard sold.

 

[xorbe]

LOL the fan will be fine. They are rated on a lifespan based at max rpm.

And yet, the fan on my Titan was squeaking after basically idling for 11 months ... I guess that was the lifespan of the fan.

 

[BiggieShady]

Some companies over-engineer the VRM to be able to handle Furmark, some don't.
Some even don't appropriately cool the VRM array

Why this is crap ... there are already thermal pads over the VRM as you can see on the picture

... and evga instructs to slap some more ... wait for it ... over the fucking chokes and behind to use the backplate for additional cooling ...

... bad vrm array is bad ... the fact it has 10 phases means nothing if mosfets operate near their rated temps and end up in thermal runaway

For rock solid VRM look at Palit GTX 1080 GameRock, with 8 power-stage phases rated way over the top ... as it should be

 

[tabascosauz]

Damn I was about to pull the trigger on a GTX 1070 SC.... dont know what to do now. Will TPU reevaluate the card with the new bios? The noise levels and cooling performance were amazing.... what a shame.

The new BIOS offers an improvement in performance and temperatures. Dunno about VRM temps as I don't have a temp probe, but core temps have dropped roughly 10-13 degrees at load. Funnily enough, it feels as though the fans have gotten a little quieter (definitely not louder). All this is actually bringing an improvement in frequencies - previously, core clocks fluctuated a bit and went down slightly after temperatures came up and hit 75-76 degrees; now at 61-63 degrees it has stabilized at just below 2000MHz (a little lower if you don't have an SC card).

Frequency improvement is confirmed by the fact that GTA V 1440p @ ultra settings without MSAA is 100% silky smooth at 60+ fps, and that GPU-Z readings don't look like serrated blades; previously, dense urban areas caused a lot of framerate dips into the 40 fps range. All while the card is as quiet if not quieter than before, and GPU core is more than 10 degrees cooler.

So I'd say you're pretty safe. You're covered by EVGA warranty anyways. It's the warranty that matters to me. The other companies often trade fan quality for overengineered VRMs and when those fans go bad, some of those RMA procedures can be quite the hassle or utterly nonfunctional.

EVGA website says that from November onwards the affected cards will ship with the new BIOS, but I don't know what this means for stock that's already sitting around at retailers.






Some of these cocksure members shitting all over EVGA should probably go ahead and buy an ACX 3.0 1070 and compare the old and new BIOS before considering themselves qualified to talk about it like they own it.

Concerned that the BIOS profile will make your fans louder? Why don't you download the BIOS instead of spouting speculation? You've got the card and it's covered by EVGA's signature warranty.