Intel Kaby Lake Desktop Processors Specifications Detailed In Official Documents

[Particle]

I find it amusing that the refrain seems to always be:

"AMD has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This is AMD's fault."

but also:

"Intel has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This too is AMD's fault."

Intel can do no wrong in the minds of many.

 

[GelatanousMuck]

Nice, that's gonna last a while.

It's been running like that for 3 1/2 years now, so even at this point it has well served beyond it's expectations, and I have no regrets or complaints if it dies today!

Were you being sarcastic?

 

[jrau]

I find it amusing that the refrain seems to always be:

"AMD has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This is AMD's fault."

but also:

"Intel has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This too is AMD's fault."

Intel can do no wrong in the minds of many.

And at the same time Intel is expected to deliver twice the performance at half the price or they are milking the consumer.

 

[Nergal]

And at the same time Intel is expected to deliver twice the performance at half the price or they are milking the consumer.

Hmmm, this is certainly true for NV, but not for intel.

Example, take the launch prices of the topline of each generation of I-7.
Compare
Take into account world average inflation
(repeat for GPU NV-AMD segment)

2011 pricing was 319(2600K), now its around 350-ish?

So for the end-user; the prices have stayed the same; but not for the industry (real high-end CPU´s).
The biggest pushes were done there; which is logical. Normal PC users have no real need for the heavy guns these days. Just surfing doesnt take much; and most of the heavy lifting with games is done by the GPU.

 

[Fluffmeister]

I find it amusing that the refrain seems to always be:

"AMD has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This is AMD's fault."

but also:

"Intel has released a new part which doesn't meet our expectations. This too is AMD's fault."

Intel can do no wrong in the minds of many.

Well sadly for us consumers AMD are the only competition in the CPU market, so ultimately it is their fault if they don't deliver.

Sucks to have a x86 license I guess.

 

[xorbe]

It's been running like that for 3 1/2 years now, so even at this point it has well served beyond it's expectations, and I have no regrets or complaints if it dies today!

Were you being sarcastic?

No, I really meant, your 5Ghz 3770k should get you along for quite a while, performance-wise! Try to rock some low latency high speed ram with that nice cpu clock rate.

 

[Caring1]

News and specifications about Intel's upcoming Kaby Lake-based desktop CPUs are thin, but a recent leak has made it possible to discern at least some details, due to an Intel product change notification (PCN) document.

A PCN is a document issued by a manufacturer to inform customers about a change to a mass-produced product or its manufacturing process. In this PCN, Intel details a new factory in Vietnam which will work in order to "ensure a continuous supply of the Select Intel Xeon Processor E3-1205, Intel Core i5-7400 Processor, Intel Core i5-7400T Processor, Intel Core i5-7500 Processor, Intel Core i5-7500T Processor, Intel Core i5-7600 Processor, Intel Core i5-7600K Processor, Intel Core i5-7600T Processor, Intel Core i7-7700 Processor, Intel Core i7-7700T Processor and Intel Core i7-7700K Processor products".

Found an i5-7600K in the wild already.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10664505?_ga=1.108051078.507117041.1462523653
and an i7-7700
http://www.3dmark.com/pcmv/600621?_ga=1.147463859.507117041.1462523653

 

[hellrazor]

Has anybody noticed that the chart says it lists speed in GHz when it clearly does so in MHz?

 

[bug]

First time post ...

Is it a valid assumption that Intel is "holding back" on CPU development? The general assumption is that because there isn't an alternative choice for x86 CPUs at the high performance end of the product line Intel isn't "trying".

AMD went back to the beginning with what some say is one of the best CPU designers in the business. If they get to 80% of Intel's top performance does that mean Intel really is trying hard and maybe CPUs don't get way faster each generation forever.

On a more personal level ... I work in Excel all day long. A few years ago I built a PC that was faster than my work PC. That led to a faster work PC. While the improvement was immediate and huge I have learned that if I write a better macro (VBA code) I get bigger performance gains that what a new PC delivered.

It might not be possible for Intel to deliver a CPU that can overcome poorly written code ...

It's not that intel isn't trying, it's just they're not trying to improve in an area where they are not challenged (IPC). With the rise of mobile computing, they improved in power consumption and IGPs instead. Which poses another problem for Zen, one few are talking about: if Zen shows adequate IPC, will it also be competitive in power consumption? Because if it won't, notebooks will remain intel-only. And that will hurt a lot.

 

[arterius2]

Has anybody noticed that the chart says it lists speed in GHz when it clearly does so in MHz?

Well the marketing department made those charts, so don't expect them to know a thing or two about computers.