AMD Cripples Older GCN GPUs of Async-Compute Support?

btarunr · Dec 6, 2016

AMD allegedly disabled asynchronous-compute technology support on older generations of Graphics CoreNext (GCN) architecture, since Radeon Software 16.9.2. With the newer drivers, "Ashes of the Singularity" no longer supports asynchronous-compute, a feature that improves performance in the game, on GPUs based on the first-generation GCN architecture, such as the Radeon R9 280X.

"Ashes of the Singularity" benchmarks run by Beyond3D forum members on GCN 1.0 hardware, comparing older drivers to version 16.9.2 shows that the game supports async-compute on the older drivers, and returns improved performance. AMD, on its part, is pointing users to a patch change-list from the developers of "Ashes..." which reads that the game supports DirectX 12 async-compute only on GCN 1.1 (eg: Radeon R9 290) and above.

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dj-electric · Dec 6, 2016

I would like the title not to ask it, but for w1z or users to confirm it

RejZoR · Dec 6, 2016

If true, that's really shitty move from AMD. First they advertise how awesome GCN is and how everyone gets async and now they want to remove that from users. That's how you lose an already small market share. Are they stupid or what? Or do they expect everyone will just blindly rush to grab a RX480? As much as I like the card, I don't believ that will happen after you piss off users by taking away readily available and usable functionality.

EarthDog · Dec 6, 2016

Confused... titles asks a question... yet the body of the news says it wasn't AMD its the Ashes devs...........?

borandi · Dec 6, 2016

EarthDog said:
Confused... titles asks a question... yet the body of the news says it wasn't AMD its the Ashes devs...........?

This. Thoroughly misleading title.

Recus · Dec 6, 2016

EarthDog said:
Confused... titles asks a question... yet the body of the news says it wasn't AMD its the Ashes devs...........?

That guy has problems with Total war: Warhammer and Rise of the Tomb Raider. Looks like Ashes of Singularity effected too. So why Gaming Evolved studios (Oxide, Creative Assembly) should cripple Async especially after Oxide hyped Async so much?

Anyway can't wait for AdorkedTV damage control.

Sempron Guy · Dec 6, 2016

RejZoR said:
If true, that's really shitty move from AMD. First they advertise how awesome GCN is and how everyone gets async and now they want to remove that from users. That's how you lose an already small market share. Are they stupid or what? Or do they expect everyone will just blindly rush to grab a RX480? As much as I like the card, I don't believ that will happen after you piss off users by taking away readily available and usable functionality.

well considering anything lower than the 280x is GCN 1.0 which is said particular "devs" are excluding for async support, maybe it's time for an upgrade? The 280x is what 3 years old now?

HD64G · Dec 6, 2016

RejZoR said:
If true, that's really shitty move from AMD. First they advertise how awesome GCN is and how everyone gets async and now they want to remove that from users. That's how you lose an already small market share. Are they stupid or what? Or do they expect everyone will just blindly rush to grab a RX480? As much as I like the card, I don't believ that will happen after you piss off users by taking away readily available and usable functionality.

They just stopped support on 1st gen CGN GPUs from a driver version onwards to be able to extract the best of the newer CGN based GPUs. Not any problem there in their logic imho. Didn't cripple anything as the 78X0 and 79X0 are 4 year old GPUs and 270-280 are just rebrands and all possible optimisations for them should be over by now through friver updates, whereas RX460, 470 and 480 are very new and Vega is coming soon too.

Casecutter · Dec 6, 2016

Yea, stupid that btarunr choose to title this more as "cheap news click bait" we've come to expect rather than really dissecting and find the truth. Hell I'd bet AMD was blindsided on this and btarunr get to drag them into the mud.

While not reporting on real news!
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-driver-leak/

P4-630 · Dec 6, 2016

Sempron Guy said:
The 280x is what 3 years old now?

Yup.
"Radeon R9 280X was announced on September 25, 2013. "

Ok.

EarthDog said:
280x = 7970, so its a lot older than that.

"AMD pulled the launch date of Radeon HD 7970, a high-performance single-GPU graphics card based on the 28 nm Tahiti silicon, up toDecember 22, 2011; from its earlier launch date of January 09, 2012."

By Google.

uuuaaaaaa · Dec 6, 2016

This looks like a headline that you would see on wccftech... :/

EarthDog · Dec 6, 2016

Sempron Guy said:
well considering anything lower than the 280x is GCN 1.0 which is said particular "devs" are excluding for async support, maybe it's time for an upgrade? The 280x is what 3 years old now?

280x = 7970, so its a lot older than that.

Casecutter · Dec 6, 2016

uuuaaaaaa said:
This looks like a headline that you would see on wccftech... :/

I'll be on wccftech getting real news...
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-driver-leak/

Eroticus · Dec 6, 2016

Casecutter said:
I'll be on wccftech getting real news...
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-driver-leak/

Whoa looks promising !

AlienIsGOD · Dec 6, 2016

What is going on with TPU lately...

hojnikb · Dec 6, 2016

When amd does it, it's good for the consumer.
When nvidia does it, they are scumbags, scammers, evil moneygrabbers.

#fanboylogic

GhostRyder · Dec 6, 2016

Sounds more like the devs rather than AMD... Either way sucks mostly because the rebranded GPU's that are still considered GCN 1.0 will suffer. Guess though that list is getting small anyways because of the age, but it still sucks...

Slizzo · Dec 6, 2016

I would think it's not something that was done consciously by AMD, considering they could call it an advantage over nVidia.

uuuaaaaaa · Dec 6, 2016

Slizzo said:
I would think it's not something that was done consciously by AMD, considering they could call it an advantage over nVidia.

It seems that it was the developer, since it was listed in game change logs?

EarthDog · Dec 6, 2016

AlienIsGOD said:
What is going on with TPU lately...

Its in the users too... some don't even read/comprehend and just post... its like...... Tom's.

Look:

Slizzo said:
I would think it's not something that was done consciously by AMD, considering they could call it an advantage over nVidia.

hojnikb said:
When amd does it, it's good for the consumer.
When nvidia does it, they are scumbags, scammers, evil moneygrabbers.

#fanboylogic

lemkeant · Dec 6, 2016

As others have said, this is total crap if AMD did something like this.

However, being that AMD seemed to respond and it's in the games change logs, I fully expect better reporting from TPU. This site is better than this type of "story"

Divide Overflow · Dec 6, 2016

I thought that TPU was better than this kind of click bait...

kruk · Dec 6, 2016

Betteridge's law of headlines: Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.

I'm lurking on TPU for years, but I'm really unhappy with the direction where it's going -> wccftech. Also, why there are only 6 of 25 recent gpu reviews those of AMD cards? It used to be different

WithoutWeakness · Dec 6, 2016

@btarunr - Please fix the title. This is a garbage clickbait headline and is absolutely a misrepresentation of what is going on.

The link to information about an Ashes of the Singularity patch is instead a link to a screenshot of Rise of the Tomb Raider patch notes.

Please do some research and/or testing before posting articles like this one in the future.

phanbuey · Dec 6, 2016

WithoutWeakness said:
@btarunr - Please fix the title. This is a garbage clickbait headline and is absolutely a misrepresentation of what is going on.

The link to information about an Ashes of the Singularity patch is instead a link to a screenshot of Rise of the Tomb Raider patch notes.

Please do some research and/or testing before posting articles like this one in the future.

How is this clickbait? I read through the reddit post - looks like a real issue.

Do you even know what that word means?

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