Tom Clancy's "The Division" Gets DirectX 12 Update, RX 480 Beats GTX 1060 by 16%

[P4-630]

thats just tells me to Dble post some more xD

Good luck with that, A mod will send you on holiday if you keep doing that.

 

[qubit]

Good luck with that, A mod will send you on holiday if you keep doing that.

^^What he said. The mods will notice and take action.

thats just tells me to Dble post some more xD

It's better that we tell you than they do. This is a heavily moderated forum. I recommend you read the rules so you don't come unstuck.

 

[Captain_Tom]

I stated incorrectly. What I mean is that my 480 extreme gaming performs better than my 390X Toxic card.
Also, my two 390X toxic GPUs didn't score much more than my 290X Tri-X cards did. The 390s were a big waste of money.

That's odd. When I had a 390X it performed very well. Hmmmm.

 

[RealNeil]

The 390X cards were expensive.
One of them died when a Silverstone AIO leaked onto it, but I don't see it as much of a loss.
It wasn't that good, to begin with.

I plan to post a few benchmark results once I get the second (and maybe a third) RX-480 installed.

 

[Captain_Tom]

The 390X cards were expensive.
One of them died when a Silverstone AIO leaked onto it, but I don't see it as much of a loss.
It wasn't that good, to begin with.

I plan to post a few benchmark results once I get the second (and maybe a third) RX-480 installed.

When I switched to a 480 most games saw worst performance than my 390X. The only time that changed is when I overclocked the ever-living sh*t out of the 480. Although once both were overclocked the 390X was still probably 5-10% ahead [390X @ 1125/1650, 480 @ 1400/2250].

 

[RealNeil]

What brand was the 480 and was it an 8GB memory card?

 

[Captain_Tom]

What brand was the 480 and was it an 8GB memory card?

SAPPHIRE Nitro 8GB.

 

[cdawall]

i mean some of these recent 480s are putting up some insane power and OC #s compared to the launch ones .. like AMD refined a few things but didnt bother to label the cards XT

And there are already scores on hwbot showing these cards equaling a stock 1070 in 3dmark... It's weird how 480 Tflops wise being closer to the 1070 than the 1060 means it could start catching up with enough overclock. Almost as if you used some form of math you could figure it out.

 

[Captain_Tom]

And there are already scores on hwbot showing these cards equaling a stock 1070 in 3dmark... It's weird how 480 Tflops wise being closer to the 1070 than the 1060 means it could start catching up with enough overclock. Almost as if you used some form of math you could figure it out.

AMD cards have historically under-performed relative to TFLOPS at launch, and then once harder-to-run games come out (That can fully saturate the massive amount of SP's AMD packs into there cards) AMD always catches up to how Nvidia's cards perform per TFLOP.

Just look at how the 7970 outperforms the OG Titan in the latest games. Truly pathetic.

Based on specs, I expect the 480 to perform about 10% worse than the 1070 in the majority of games by the end of 2017.

 

[cdawall]

AMD cards have historically under-performed relative to TFLOPS at launch, and then once harder-to-run games come out (That can fully saturate the massive amount of SP's AMD packs into there cards) AMD always catches up to how Nvidia's cards perform per TFLOP.

Just look at how the 7970 outperforms the OG Titan in the latest games. Truly pathetic.

Based on specs, I expect the 480 to perform about 10% worse than the 1070 in the majority of games by the end of 2017.

I agree completely. My point that someone likes to misquote constantly was that if you overclock an rx480 enough it will catch a stock 1070. People on here act like this is some sort of unfathomable, impossible feat.

Give amd the time to actually produce some well binned chips and I think we will see some much better clocks out there. Get a 480 into the 1600-1700mhz range and it equals the 1070 at stock.

 

[Nergal]

I agree completely. My point that someone likes to misquote constantly was that if you overclock an rx480 enough it will catch a stock 1070. People on here act like this is some sort of unfathomable, impossible feat.

Give amd the time to actually produce some well binned chips and I think we will see some much better clocks out there. Get a 480 into the 1600-1700mhz range and it equals the 1070 at stock.

Hmm, my estimate is by then it will score neatly between the 1060 and the 1070. But the newest 480 (485?) will by then have the same speed as the 1070. (in newer DX12 games)

 

[cdawall]

Hmm, my estimate is by then it will score neatly between the 1060 and the 1070. But the newest 480 (485?) will by then have the same speed as the 1070. (in newer DX12 games)

If it is the same Polaris 10 core its all a 480 to me. Binning doesn't mean new gpu in my books, but then again nvidia did that for four generations with g92.

 

[Fabio Pisco]

But nowhere near GTX1070 performance as some people claim an RX480 can match a GTX1070....
RX480 is GTX1060 territory.

Yes, "some people" say that not AMD. Btw if u can can overclock your RX 480 to 1400mhz core (most current batches can do it) u get performance way above GTX 1060 at 2000 mhz

 

[Fluffmeister]

Yes, "some people" say that not AMD. Btw if u can can overclock your RX 480 to 1400mhz core (most current batches can do it) u get performance way above GTX 1060 at 2000 mhz

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...480_o8g_gaming_video_card_review#.WGZtjxuLTIU

 

[cdawall]

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016...480_o8g_gaming_video_card_review#.WGZtjxuLTIU

That site is a fucking joke. Somehow the entire 480/470/460 Club can manage to get >1400 on stock voltage and it takes him literally all of the voltage to do it.

 

[TheGuruStud]

That site is a fucking joke. Somehow the entire 480/470/460 Club can manage to get >1400 on stock voltage and it takes him literally all of the voltage to do it.

I can't speak about current stuff, but they used to be one of the biggest AMD haters (along with Tom's and Anand).

 

[Fluffmeister]

I new the results wouldn't go down to well.

/shrug.

 

[cdawall]

I new the results wouldn't go down to well.

/shrug.

His results match no one else's on the web...post 16.12 update next to no game shows a performance advantage to the 1060 yet his review shows a stock 1060 beating a 480@1400. Seems fishy.

 

[Fluffmeister]

His results match no one else's on the web...post 16.12 update next to no game shows a performance advantage to the 1060 yet his review shows a stock 1060 beating a 480@1400. Seems fishy.

It's not a stock 1060.

 

[cdawall]

It's not a stock 1060.

Ah GOD DAMN that is a poorly written review... Why would they not link this on the test setup page? Or list the clock speed when you mention which card is being used.

Instead you have to scroll down to the bottom of the page

click a link, follow that link to their images to find out that the card was at 2164 mhz boost/9200mhz on the memory

That clears a couple things up for me. Go figure [H] is being [H] again. Hell when they can figure out how to measure actual card draw as opposed to whole system (mind you they have been doing "reviews" for almost 20 years and have been denied cards from AMD in the recent past). So one of a couple things happened, the [H] is just telling lies to people, they cannot overclock AMD cards to save their live's or they got a card that actually clocks worse than the lowest end RX480 on the market.

AKA this one,

The XFX RX480 RS model which is essentially an RX480 on an RX460 PCB has been consistently hitting 1390-1430 on stock voltage. Yet the Asus Strix card (which currently holds ALL of the 480 WR's) can only hit 1410@1.3v. I am not saying take this review with a grain of salt I am saying they are so full of shit it is coming out of Kyle Bennett's mouth as per usual.

 

[Fluffmeister]

That's quite a rant, but you're just shooting the messenger, take it up with Kyle.

 

[cdawall]

I would just prefer if he stopped doing AMD reviews. I mean why spend time and bandwidth to do such a shit job?

 

[Fluffmeister]

Dunno, just look at the pretty graphs then.

 

[cdawall]

Dunno, just look at the pretty graphs then.

His graphs are so awful though lol

 

[Fluffmeister]

Anyway Fabio myth blown, time to move on.