Ominous ve.ga Website Surfaces with a Word Cloud

swirl09 · Jan 3, 2017

This really feels like deja vu. AMD about to launch their next big architecture equipped with HBM and Nvidia drops an on paper less impressive card (Ti) that is simply better (for gaming).

The specs on this thing do look great. But if the teasers were AMD showcasing their top tier model and it only beats a 1080 in Doom running Vulkan, that doesnt inspire confidence.

There is a heck of a gap between the RX480 and a GTX1080 tho, so something that generally comes out on top of the 1080 if priced correctly would still have a place.

But my next GPU will be whatever is the best for gaming that doesnt cross the grand marker.

BiggieShady · Jan 3, 2017

Draw Stream Binning Rasterizer ... fancy name for a tiled renderer, this should bring AMD back to competitive efficiency.

Ferrum Master · Jan 3, 2017

The article clearly is misleading about the cache controller...

It is the same nvme hybrid feature as in firepro cards imho.

laszlo · Jan 3, 2017

considering they promote it as part of "rebellion" prices will be affordable i guess; 500 $ ?

R-T-B · Jan 3, 2017

azdesign said:
The whole video in ve.ga is a cringe train lol.

I have to admit, it pretty much is one of the worst commercials I have ever seen for a tech product.

Disclaimer: I'm sure there is worse, I just haven't seen one personally.

Tsukiyomi91 · Jan 3, 2017

the whole video is a cringe train. "Make some noise"... really? Hopefully it doesn't apply to their rather noisy coolers lel.

springs113 · Jan 3, 2017

According to numerous tech folks that went to the new horizons event. That Vega demo was of little Vega running on unoptimized fury drivers for said card. I am willing to believe them...and i don't know if anyone has noticed but in that video there was an "attack" on volta there. I'm pretty certain that this Vega arch means business. We all need AMD to get this right, I refuse to buy another mid tier Nvidia gpu priced at an enthusiast level pricing.

Nosada · Jan 3, 2017

R-T-B said:
Disclaimer: I'm sure there is worse, I just haven't seen one personally.

On topic: horrible advertising, BUT ... at least they are advertising this time. Always remember: bad press is better than no press. And them throwing the gauntlet not at nVidia's current gen, but its next gen GPU is quite ballsy, although unlikely to pan out.

I like how AMD is playing this, they are drawing attention and playing out their underdog role pretty well. Nothing but pure benchmarks and price/performance ratios will convince me, but this will help their position with the uncouth masses.

EDIT: So bored at work ...

ADHDGAMING · Jan 3, 2017

Xzibit said:
No, Nvidia was first with HBM 2.0 both in HPC and in server market.

he is referring to Consumer grade ...

rtwjunkie · Jan 3, 2017

Dj-ElectriC said:
People who get too hyped need to remind themselves that only a short while ago AMD preferred using TITAN X to showcase CPU gaming performance.

They didn't even use their own Vega early samples

Why not? It allows you to take GPU-CPU coordination out of the running as an issue. It focuses things just on the CPU's performance, and eliminates anyone being able to say Ryzen only performed well because it was paired with an AMD GPU.

@Xzibit by "first dibs" on HBM 2, what that means is they get first pick at HBM 2 production chips.

kruk · Jan 3, 2017

swirl09 said:
This really feels like deja vu. AMD about to launch their next big architecture equipped with HBM and Nvidia drops an on paper less impressive card (Ti) that is simply better (for gaming).

There is simply no way in the world you could know that.

swirl09 said:
The specs on this thing do look great. But if the teasers were AMD showcasing their top tier model and it only beats a 1080 in Doom running Vulkan, that doesnt inspire confidence.

There isn't just one Vega, but there are Vega 10 and 11. Just wait for the benchmarks.

Xzibit · Jan 3, 2017

ADHDGAMING said:
he is referring to Consumer grade ...

There is nothing stopping Nvidia from applying HBM2 to ~~consumer grade~~ GeForce series besides profit margins.

rtwjunkie said:
@Xzibit by "first dibs" on HBM 2, what that means is they get first pick at HBM 2 production chips.

HBM2 has been in production for a while. In that sense AMD has been stockpiling them because Nvidia products were released half a year ago. All 3 variants have been on the market long enough they are 40% cheaper now.

Steevo · Jan 3, 2017

Xzibit said:
No, Nvidia was first with HBM 2.0 both in HPC and in server market.

"The Tesla P100 is in volume production today and will ship “soon." Jen-Hsun Huang said that really means it will show up in the cloud first, and ship via OEMs in Q1 2017. "

Where is it? I tried Lenovo and a few other places to "buy" them, but there is no option for it... so......

TheGuruStud · Jan 3, 2017

Steevo said:
"The Tesla P100 is in volume production today and will ship “soon." Jen-Hsun Huang said that really means it will show up in the cloud first, and ship via OEMs in Q1 2017. "

Where is it? I tried Lenovo and a few other places to "buy" them, but there is no option for it... so......

I made fun of that clown when he said it. I bet they shipped the volume of 100 lol. How could they have volume when HBM2 was still in risk production (not to mention their own terrible yields, no doubt).

They sold a few for HPC and that's it, I'm assuming. I sure haven't seen anyone bragging about a farm. There's been zero talk of public release that I've seen.

Xzibit · Jan 3, 2017

Steevo said:
"The Tesla P100 is in volume production today and will ship “soon." Jen-Hsun Huang said that really means it will show up in the cloud first, and ship via OEMs in Q1 2017. "

Where is it? I tried Lenovo and a few other places to "buy" them, but there is no option for it... so......

Right here

NVIDIA 900-2H400-0003-000 Tesla P100 12GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $4,599.00

Supermicro GPU-NVTP100-16 Tesla P100 16GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $6,259.99

NVIDIA 900-2H400-0000-000 Tesla P100 16GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $5,599.00

Supermicro GPU-NVTP100-SXM Tesla P100 16GB SXM2 16GB CoWoS HBM2, NVLink - $7,999.99

NVIDIA 900-2H403-0000-000 Tesla P100 16GB SXM2 16GB CoWoS HBM2, NVLink - $6,999.00

If you want bulk try the Nvidia program

Steevo · Jan 3, 2017

Xzibit said:
Right here

NVIDIA 900-2H400-0003-000 Tesla P100 12GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $4,599.00

Supermicro GPU-NVTP100-16 Tesla P100 16GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $6,259.99

NVIDIA 900-2H400-0000-000 Tesla P100 16GB CoWoS HBM2 PCIe 3.0 -- Passive Cooling - $5,599.00

Supermicro GPU-NVTP100-SXM Tesla P100 16GB SXM2 16GB CoWoS HBM2, NVLink - $7,999.99

NVIDIA 900-2H403-0000-000 Tesla P100 16GB SXM2 16GB CoWoS HBM2, NVLink - $6,999.00

If you want bulk try the Nvidia program

"Pre-Order" "Call for Availability"

Pre-Order is in stock at call for availability now today sometime in the future.....

Fluffmeister · Jan 3, 2017

Well the cards are out and are being played with already.

Point is the HBM2 exclusivity is bollocks and equally a low yield/high return strategy makes sense however you want to slice it.

TheGuruStud · Jan 3, 2017

Steevo said:
"Pre-Order" "Call for Availability"

Pre-Order is in stock at call for availability now today sometime in the future.....

Built to order, I guess :roll:

Steevo · Jan 3, 2017

Fluffmeister said:
Well the cards are out and are being played with already.

Point is the HBM2 exclusivity is bollocks and equally a low yield/high return strategy makes sense however you want to slice it.

Interesting that IBM is using in Power PC 8 systems, everyone runs those for line of business and data mining, makes sense that a large parallel workload would utilize them and perhaps custom code to run on them, but at the rate technology is growing how long before it could design its own successor.

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