AMD Ryzen 8 Core/16 Thread CPU ES Now Run at 3.6 GHz base, 3.9 GHz Boost

[phanbuey]

Point is that if the 8C/16T goes for sale with 3.6/4GHz with the stock AMD cooler (Wrath probably) and lower than 125W TDP, it will be very probable that the 4C/8T will manage to reach 4GHz without turbo and close to 4.5GHz on turbo with the same coller for less TDP. And if 8C goes for sale for less than $600, the best for gamers 4C will be a big hit if it goes for sale for less than $300 imho. I wish they manage to have plenty of units in stock once they are released in order not to lose sales.

It will be interesting to see... I hope so too. Can't wait to read some reviews haven't had an AMD system since my original socket 754.

 

[Kanan]

It is 20 directly from the CPU (16 + 4, which will typically be used for GPU and NVMe drive), the rest are from the platform hub ("chipset").

Still enough for SLI/CF and a SSD on nvme or pci-e basis. I think 99% of users don't need more than that.

 

[fullinfusion]

Can´t wait till they launch the ZEN - my FX-9590 is soon going to retire

Lol my Intel will be going toast too

 

[YautjaLord]

Still enough for SLI/CF and a SSD on nvme or pci-e basis. I think 99% of users don't need more than that.

M.2 SSDs cost as much if not more than regular SATA III SSDs*, i eye-balled a while ago (week or so) the Samsung's 512GB that's still leagues above n beyond any other companies ones, will suit me. Just my 2 cents, man.

What i'm really intersted in tho are some 4k gaming (not just BF1& SW Rogue One) & Prime95 (or any other torture test) tests sneak peeks, teasers or some such sh!t.

P.S. *Meaning with the salary i earn n taxes in IsraHell lol jk especially M.2 SSDs cost a f*ckload of moneyz. I'd stick with SATA IIIs stead, maybe when prices drop i'd go for M.2 variant of that 512GB SSD.

 

[Kanan]

M.2 SSDs cost as much if not more than regular SATA III SSDs*, i eye-balled a while ago (week or so) the Samsung's 512GB that's still leagues above n beyond any other companies ones, will suit me. Just my 2 cents, man.

What i'm really intersted in tho are some 4k gaming (not just BF1& SW Rogue One) & Prime95 (or any other torture test) tests sneak peeks, teasers or some such sh!t.

P.S. *Meaning with the salary i earn n taxes in IsraHell lol jk especially M.2 SSDs cost a f*ckload of moneyz. I'd stick with SATA IIIs stead, maybe when prices drop i'd go for M.2 variant of that 512GB SSD.

Yeah the price is another problem, I was just talking about PCI-E lanes.

 

[siuol11]

Too bad they completely porked it with a measly 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0. Seriously AMD, you're bragging about taking on Intel's HEDT offerings and you can't bring more bandwidth than Intel's 2 year old mainstream platform? WHY do you insist on crippling yourself this way?

 

[Aquinus]

Too bad they completely porked it with a measly 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0. Seriously AMD, you're bragging about taking on Intel's HEDT offerings and you can't bring more bandwidth than Intel's 2 year old mainstream platform? WHY do you insist on crippling yourself this way?

...because Intel's HEDT platform was designed for servers. It's not exactly what I would call crippling.

 

[Camm]

Too bad they completely porked it with a measly 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0. Seriously AMD, you're bragging about taking on Intel's HEDT offerings and you can't bring more bandwidth than Intel's 2 year old mainstream platform? WHY do you insist on crippling yourself this way?

What the hell are you talking about? From my count from leaked slides, a CPU+X370 board will net you 32 lanes all up against Kaby Lakes 30.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

What the hell are you talking about? From my count from leaked slides, a CPU+X370 board will net you 32 lanes all up against Kaby Lakes 30.

And how many come from the CPU itself? if this thing is going to take on intel's HDET, they'll need an answer to intel's 40 PCIe lanes from the CPU itself. even the cheap 6800k (relatively) has 28 CPU lanes. if ryzen gets 12 from the chipset, and 20 from the CPU, that just isnt good enough.

if it plans to take on intel's LGA 115x line, the $500 price tag isnt going to cut it either.

 

[Camm]

And how many come from the CPU itself? if this thing is going to take on intel's HDET, they'll need an answer to intel's 40 PCIe lanes from the CPU itself. even the cheap 6800k (relatively) has 28 CPU lanes. if ryzen gets 12 from the chipset, and 20 from the CPU, that just isnt good enough.

if it plans to take on intel's LGA 115x line, the $500 price tag isnt going to cut it either.

Its not taking on HEDT though, with a cpu die size that is 1/3 smaller (and of which HEDT is barely a consumer product anyway), what your interested in is Naples.

 

[the54thvoid]

Its not taking on HEDT though, with a cpu die size that is 1/3 smaller (and of which HEDT is barely a consumer product anyway), what your interested in is Naples.

Speaking as a prospective Zen purchaser, it isn't fighting against a 4 core chip. Their own early demo compared it to the HEDT 6950.
Kabylake at close to 5GHz will be the better choice (even Skylake) than Zen which even optimistically won't match those clocks.
AMD will be targeting Zen on a core by core front. That's the logical conclusion. Yes, the 4 core part will be against KL but the initial top end release will be against the HEDT segment.

 

[Camm]

Speaking as a prospective Zen purchaser, it isn't fighting against a 4 core chip. Their own early demo compared it to the HEDT 6950.
Kabylake at close to 5GHz will be the better choice (even Skylake) than Zen which even optimistically won't match those clocks.
AMD will be targeting Zen on a core by core front. That's the logical conclusion. Yes, the 4 core part will be against KL but the initial top end release will be against the HEDT segment.

Everything except the core count says otherwise though, lower die size means lower pin counts means lower pcie lane counts (and a halving of the size of the memory controller). Pricing leaks also have it pinned to go against 115x not HEDT.

All HEDT is is a market distortion created by Intel's monopoly. Core counts could easily have risen under mainstream 115x sockets, but Intel purposefully did that. On top of this, who the hell can use HEDT's PCIE counts anyway. SLi only supports 2 cards now, sli and crossfire suck and are often unsupported, and most boards have good enough sound (if your not using a usb dac anyway), sata ports and networking to make almost everyone happy. And if your really that desperate, I'm sure someone will slap a PLX chip on a few boards.

Sorry if this came across as harsh, and yes, it some ways AMD is comparing the Zen platform to HEDT (as again, its the only Intel competition with comparable core counts), but everything else about its strategy shows it aiming at the mainstream market.

 

[JMccovery]

What the hell are you talking about? From my count from leaked slides, a CPU+X370 board will net you 32 lanes all up against Kaby Lakes 30.

There are 20 PCI-E lanes for cards coming from RyZen, and by looking at how most AM4 boards are laid out, it's the same arrangement as the LGA115x chips: 16 lanes for cards, 4 to the controller hub (which then are split amongst various controllers and slots).

As for RyZen competing with Intel's HEDT as well; back when AM4 launched, I remember reading that AM4 will be the only consumer desktop socket; spanning from value systems to high-end enthusiast desktops.

 

[Basard]

I want to see what the 220W version does....

 

[Jism]

I want to see what the 220W version does....

There's no fx version coming from the new zen.

I wrote before their CPU would be much better if they'd turbo up to 4GHz with just four cores rather then all 8.

 

[Konceptz]

People are really going to pay more then $400 for this thing? Still no firm price or release date.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

There's no fx version coming from the new zen.

I wrote before their CPU would be much better if they'd turbo up to 4GHz with just four cores rather then all 8.

On that note the full core gets a lot of chat but I expect the 6 and quad to clock higher and likely by far giving kaby lake a run for its money maybe.

 

[eidairaman1]

Not worried about turbo/boost. I will turn that off and oc the chip across all 8.

 

[eidairaman1]

People are really going to pay more then $400 for this thing? Still no firm price or release date.

I see intel based boards for $600 in some places, so why worry?

 

[Chaitanya]

 

[Kanan]

There are 20 PCI-E lanes for cards coming from RyZen, and by looking at how most AM4 boards are laid out, it's the same arrangement as the LGA115x chips: 16 lanes for cards, 4 to the controller hub (which then are split amongst various controllers and slots).

As for RyZen competing with Intel's HEDT as well; back when AM4 launched, I remember reading that AM4 will be the only consumer desktop socket; spanning from value systems to high-end enthusiast desktops.

Ryzen has 24 lanes, 16 for Gpus, 4 + 4 for other stuff, it's 8 more than Intels mainstream platform and more than enough for 2 Gpus + nvme ssd and more. It is indeed comparable to Intels hedt platform, more than it is to its mainstream platform. As long as Gpus don't need more than 8 lanes for full performance that is. That said their lower spec hedt cpus have 28 lanes that's only 4 more (5820k for example).

 

[Dbiggs9]

Naples will be 64 zen 32....

 

[Dbiggs9]

Good or bad I'm buying a ryzen and vega. Whole new build to replace my 990x system.
This build will need to net me 6+ years

 

[Aquinus]

Ryzen has 24 lanes, 16 for Gpus, 4 + 4 for other stuff, it's 8 more than Intels mainstream platform and more than enough for 2 Gpus + nvme ssd and more. It is indeed comparable to Intels hedt platform, more than it is to its mainstream platform. As long as Gpus don't need more than 8 lanes for full performance that is. That said their lower spec hedt cpus have 28 lanes that's only 4 more (5820k for example).

If those 16 PCI-E 3.0 lanes take the place of what would have been a 16x HyperTransport connection, then it's not unrealistic that a chip on the motherboard might switch PCI-E much like those PLX chips do. A lot of times, you can get away with fewer actual lanes to the CPU because PCI-E bandwidth isn't always demanded at the same time and a device wanting more I/O can have it when it's switched in this way. Either way, you're right. 24 lanes is more than enough for most people.