MSI Z270 Motherboards Automate Core i7-7700K Overclock to 5.20 GHz

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

Sure it is stable, how bout show it running Prime95 instead of BIOS without either immediately crashing or thermal throttling like Pentium D. Not to even talk about suicidal voltages, and you advertise this for masses?

100% scam marketing as usual. Bad MSI, bad.

 

[GhostRyder]

Personally, I see anything as up to 1.5v as safe, since Intel litterally lets the chips request up to 1.52v automatically via VID. They literally rate them for that. I don't know where people get these cautionary numbers, but provided you can keep the chip cool, they make no sense.

Its a matter of opinion and from advice of those in many forums that I visit where I get my numbers from. Its just what I think for a 24/7 overclock (Not testing or pushing limits). I just think beyond a certain point you are starting to really tap into the lifespan of a chip especially if you game, encode, edit, etc since its going to keep that chip revved up for extended periods with those voltages. I have seen a few chips in my time go up from overclocking because the users pushed way to much and set like that 24/7 (more AMD than Intel though strictly actually the FX line and one phenom II). I just like to keep my chips below 1.35 as my safety point for 24/7 use and think 1.5 would be a bit extreme for my taste.

 

[RejZoR]

It's strange though, ASUS has an auto tune feature which overshoot the voltage only by a tiny bit on my system and reached 4.4GHz I think.. Why is MSI advertising it as something so much better and at those voltages?

 

[EarthDog]

MSI had it in the past as well... ASUS only goes to 5Ghz on their auto tuning for Z270 I believe.

Sure it is stable, how bout show it running Prime95 instead of BIOS without either immediately crashing or thermal throttling like Pentium D. Not to even talk about suicidal voltages, and you advertise this for masses?

100% scam marketing as usual. Bad MSI, bad.

1.5V, while high, isn't "suicidal". Id imagine a chip, with temps under control (good luck - need custom loop), will last throughout its warranty period (3 years). They spec a max of 1`.52V.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

MSI had it in the past as well... ASUS only goes to 5Ghz on their auto tuning for Z270 I believe.

1.5V, while high, isn't "suicidal". Id imagine a chip, with temps under control (good luck - need custom loop), will last throughout its warranty period (3 years). They spec a max of 1`.52V.

Not saying it is going to die immediately, but I have had a ton of CPUs in the past and a few of them have shown significant degradation within months when used at even less voltage.
Usually it can have mild effect, like need to drop off hundred MHz core clock after a while, but when it really starts to go it will go there is no stopping.
It is real physical phenomenon, seen it multiple times with my own chips. Especially bad when combined with high temperatures (which there will be at that voltage).

You'd be far better off running that 100 - 200MHz lower clock speed at reasonable voltages pretty much indefinitely compared to doing so for some time, possibly ending up having to use even lower OC afterwards. 1.52V is indeed absolute maximum rating (do you really want to be running at that extended time?), wanna bet your motherboard isn't pushing even more in reality? Gaming/OC motherboards are notorious for giving CPU more voltage than software is telling.

 

[EarthDog]

And if it does that within the warranty period, return the CPU (Intel Performance Tuning plan). Simple. Its a risk we all take when overclocking. If one can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

And if it does that within the warranty period, return the CPU (Intel Performance Tuning plan). Simple. Its a risk we all take when overclocking. If one can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Wrong. I have never seen CPU die or even degrade with any reasonable OC. You can overlock without being complete stupid and going too far.

 

[EarthDog]

I have...

Earlier, you must have been talking about something else I guess, where you did see this happening 'a ton'. I assume that when you said, "at even less voltage" you were talking about 'reasonable' voltages...

but I have had a ton of CPUs in the past and a few of them have shown significant degradation within months when used at even less voltage.
Usually it can have mild effect, like need to drop off hundred MHz core clock after a while, but when it really starts to go it will go there is no stopping.
It is real physical phenomenon, seen it multiple times with my own chips. Especially bad when combined with high temperatures (which there will be at that voltage).

... I guess you run at unreasonable voltages?

wanna bet your motherboard isn't pushing even more in reality? Gaming/OC motherboards are notorious for giving CPU more voltage than software is telling.

Forgot to comment on this earlier....

... just check. Use CPUz or other tools to verify. Typically, at least Z170 and down, with manual overclocking, its either spot on or there is the Intel spec, vdroop (less on load). But, when overclocking, you are looking at the voltages anyway... at least you should, and all good guides tell you this.