AMD Ryzen XFR Frequencies Revealed

[Manu_PT]

Less money, less power, more performance. K
Intel has stagnated, AMD has caught up... don't ignore their lead again or the cycle will continue.

Biased much? We don't know half of what you said lmao. Better wait for them, unless you want to cry like we did with bulldozer.

 

[nemesis.ie]

Even so, AMD didn't design these to be the most power efficient parts in its lineup and it's likely we'll see more power efficient parts in the future, much like Intel's T-series of processors.

There was all the talk of ~4W idle consumption. If this is true, In theory you could make your own low power version by using the unlocked settings to cap the max speed. Although you would still be paying more prsumably than for a lower speed chip from the factory.

It will be interesting to see if there is also a settable TDP for these, so you could benefit from the speed for short bursts (like phones) but restrict the comnsumption/heat for smaller builds/24/7 use etc.

It all sounds very flexible anyway.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Looks like AMD has three different cooler solutions for Ryzen
https://videocardz.com/65885/amd-ryzen-reference-coolers-leaked
https://videocardz.com/65892/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-ryzen-5-1600x-will-require-special-coolers

 

[VulkanBros]

Looks like AMD has three different cooler solutions for Ryzen
https://videocardz.com/65885/amd-ryzen-reference-coolers-leaked
https://videocardz.com/65892/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-ryzen-5-1600x-will-require-special-coolers

If true - the coolers look cool - little bit ala the old RADEON 5870 design vise.....

 

[Ubersonic]

The CPUs are shaping up really really well, now we just need for somebody to announce a decent spec motherboard, no point pairing a 1800X with anything that's been shown so far.

 

[YautjaLord]

But can it hit 5.0GHz under EKWB's 3x120mm rad easy? March or even April 28th me find out. R7 1800X it is.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

There are going to be some great XFR threads on TPU.........

 

[ratirt]

I'm thinking about the R7 1700X for me. Anyway I will wait for some reviews about the CPU and of course Mobo's. don't wanna be hasty.

 

[FYFI13]

Looks like AMD has three different cooler solutions for Ryzen
https://videocardz.com/65885/amd-ryzen-reference-coolers-leaked
https://videocardz.com/65892/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-and-ryzen-5-1600x-will-require-special-coolers

These are fake, read TPU forums.

 

[Palladium]

Meh I can care less about XFR, which sounds like the CPU version of gimmicky factory autoclocking on Pascal. I just want the good old Intel way of guaranteed per-core max turbo.

 

[basco]

here are some pics with cache included:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/amd-ryzen-leaks-taktraten-preise/

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Meh I can care less about XFR, which sounds like the CPU version of gimmicky factory autoclocking on Pascal. I just want the good old Intel way of guaranteed per-core max turbo.

Your fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.

here are some pics with cache included:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-02/amd-ryzen-leaks-taktraten-preise/

and how do I translate that page?

 

[Eknex]

Is known anything about speeds in OC?

 

[Joss]

I find Ryzen's lineup extremely confusing.

You have the Xs, non Xs, Pros and no Pros,
Different TDPs among the above mentioned,
3 coolers (HS55, HS65, HS81) under 3 categories (A, B, F)
You have the R5 that can either be a 6/12 or a 4/8,
Cherry on top you have the XFR thing
oh, and there's temps, the 1800X is supposed to stay below 60C, while the Pro 1800 (same TDP) can reach 72C

Confusing

 

[FYFI13]

"AMD Ryzen XFR Frequencies Revealed" ...Oh wait, they weren't revealed

Your fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.

and how do I translate that page?

My common sense tells me Google Translate could help :|

 

[Parn]

Basically a built-in on-die auto OC and the ceiling of this OC is decided by the sample quality of each individual CPU.

 

[Caring1]

Basically a built-in on-die auto OC and the ceiling of this OC is decided by the sample quality of each individual CPU.

And the ability to cool that CPU.

 

[Palladium]

Your fanboi is showing. Loyalties are hard to break, but some day common sense is going to be a deciding factor.

Yeah, because doubting a rather questionable feature in a CPU I quite intend to buy makes me a fanboi. Can you like get lost and take your CPU identity politics out this thread yet?

 

[lilunxm12]

Until you plug in a USB hub and two 2.5" bus powered hard drives into it...

I'm not interested in killing my drives, even if they are spare. Attach a thumb drive is handy, but hard drives..... And I'm pretty sure those usb ports are designed for printers and thumb drives. Only crazy like linksys will put a esata on routers. I wounder how many user complains they will recieve every year.

 

[Chaitanya]

I'm not interested in killing my drives, even if they are spare. Attach a thumb drive is handy, but hard drives..... And I'm pretty sure those usb ports are designed for printers and thumb drives. Only crazy like linksys will put a esata on routers. I wounder how many user complains they will recieve every year.

pretty sure 0 considering only eSATA/USB Combo can deliver power while the other one is just for data transfer with no power delivery to attached peripheral.

 

[mroofie]

Less money, less power, more performance. K
Intel has stagnated, AMD has caught up... don't ignore their lead again or the cycle will continue.

K..

 

[lilunxm12]

pretty sure 0 considering only eSATA/USB Combo can deliver power while the other one is just for data transfer with no power delivery to attached peripheral.

Doesn't change the fact it's coming from the router and the drives running 24x7 are most likely not protected nor cooled. My home server provides way better condition, yet on average I lose one hard drive per year. If I have to plug something 24x7 on my router, I will only put the robust thumb drives.

 

[geon2k2]

So:
i5 like performance <150$
i7 like performance <200$
i7 HE like performance <500$

Prices are amazing, but we have to see performance.

Based on the prices, and considering there is no point for AMD to undercut Intel by much, I would assume the performance to also be like 2/3 of the comparable Intel CPU, probably targeting for a 10-20% better performance/price ratio. At least this is what I would do if I would be AMD management.
That would give a nice competitive product, while the margins will be huge compared to Intel as they'll not have the 60% die space wasted due to the iGPU, which nobody (99% of the desktop users) uses anyway.

Now AMD needs to come also with a nice mobile solution, this time with integrated graphics, as businesses need that and to use integrated for a laptop is much more common than for the desktop.

 

[EarthDog]

About 1/5 (~18%) use Intel iGPU...and that, in general are gamers, etc... not mom and dad who don't game/use steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

 

[Gasaraki]

How can a Ryzen 7 (8 cores) and a Ryzen 5 (4 cores) - with the same clock speed - have the same 65W TDP? My math doesn't accept that I'm building a HTPC and was hoping for something way lower than that, as you can get a i5 7500 using only 42W (65W TDP includes the iGPU).
EDIT: after reading (again) what TDP is on wikipedia, I've figured that these two will have very different power consumption, but are limited to the 65W design. So... the 4C one should overclock way higher =)

Magic. Ryzen magic.