Windows 10 Creators Update Might Force Updates Even on Metered Connections

[FPSPusher]

You can always just disable windows update in services.

 

[lexluthermiester]

This isn't a problem if you disable the update service and only re-enable when you want/plan to do updates.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

No, they are becoming increasingly common stateside as well. I have a metered connection. If I go over 1TB, I pay out the nose. That said, 1TB is a lot of data.

I go through roughly 3TB a month... I've used 7TB
I watch all my Netflix shows in 4k and I have 2 other TV's at 1080p...1TB would not cover my needs at all.... It's all internet based all the time....

I don't keep anything in storage anymore I just downloaded when I need it...

My sister in law has AT&T and she gets throttled after 22GB.... Most games I have for Xbone and PS4 are 25GB or bigger...O don't know how people do it.

 

[bug]

I go through roughly 3TB a month... I've used 7TB
I watch all my Netflix shows in 4k and I have 2 other TV's at 1080p...1TB would not cover my needs at all.... It's all internet based all the time....

I don't keep anything in storage anymore I just downloaded when I need it...

My sister in law has AT&T and she gets throttled after 22GB.... Most games I have for Xbone and PS4 are 25GB or bigger...I don't know how people do it.

Wired connections still rule.
It really pisses me off when my mobile company contacts me to offer a new subscription "with unlimited traffic for Facebook/Whatsapp/whatever". I already have that and more. I don't care for mobile plans.

 

[Breit]

Good job MS!
Imagine tethering your phone with your laptop on a 1GB monthly data plan just to write an email on your laptop only to find out minutes later that you not only have no data left on your mobile for the rest of the month, you sit there even with only a half-downloaded update which doesn't get you anywhere. Make that the first day on a 2-week trip to a foreign country, where those mobile data plans cost you a fortune.
Really, good job MS. You gotta love them.

 

[bug]

Good job MS!
Imagine tethering your phone with your laptop on a 1GB monthly data plan just to write an email on your laptop only to find out minutes later that you not only have no data left on your mobile for the rest of the month, you sit there even with only a half-downloaded update which doesn't get you anywhere. Make that the first day on a 2-week trip to a foreign country, where those mobile data plans cost you a fortune.
Really, good job MS. You gotta love them.

I wouldn't tether my phone with my laptop to begin with. I'd email from the phone or connect the laptop to WiFi instead.

 

[Breit]

I wouldn't tether my phone with my laptop to begin with. I'd email from the phone or connect the laptop to WiFi instead.

See, that "email"-thing was an example for "doing stuff online, which is way easier on a pc than a phone". Oh, and sure WiFi is ubiquitously available, right?

 

[bug]

See, that "email"-thing was an example for "doing stuff online, which is way easier on a pc than a phone". Oh, and sure WiFi is ubiquitously available, right?

WiFi may not be ubiquitously available, but I also don't haul around my laptop much when I know I'm going places with no coverage. I'm just saying, you have to dig a bit deeper to find a scenario where this change would actually be harmful.
And yes, taking away options isn't something to be cheered, but what can you do when users are so dumb they can't figure out how to update their own systems?

 

[lexluthermiester]

WiFi may not be ubiquitously available, but I also don't haul around my laptop much when I know I'm going places with no coverage. I'm just saying, you have to dig a bit deeper to find a scenario where this change would actually be harmful.
And yes, taking away options isn't something to be cheered, but what can you do when users are so dumb they can't figure out how to update their own systems?

How about ISP's who meter home internet connections? Trust me it sucked. The local cable company in my area provides 250gb per month and then throttles the connection down to 3.5mbps and bills for every megabyte of data beyond the limit. This kind of billing is common. How's that for a typical usable scenario? So in this type of scenario, the only way to avoid hitting the limit is to limit or turn off anything that isn't needed. And since Microsoft in their infinite wisdom have taken away the ability to limit updates, people now have to turn the update service off completely until the beginning of their next billing cycle. It's a bad move and is yet more proof that Microsoft has zero real respect for the needs and rights of the general public.

 

[bug]

How about ISP's who meter home internet connections? Trust me it sucked. The local cable company in my area provides 250gb per month and then throttles the connection down to 3.5mbps and bills for every megabyte of data beyond the limit. This kind of billing is common. How's that for a typical usable scenario? So in this type of scenario, the only way to avoid hitting the limit is to limit or turn off anything that isn't needed. And since Microsoft in their infinite wisdom have taken away the ability to limit updates, people now have to turn the update service off completely until the beginning of their next billing cycle. It's a bad move and is yet more proof that Microsoft has zero real respect for the needs and rights of the general public.

Oh come on... Windows doesn't get 25GB worth of updates in a month. And this is about pushing only the security critical updates. It's still bad, but it's not the end of the world.
As for metered wired connection, that must be something American, I wouldn't know anything about it

 

[remixedcat]

You can always just disable windows update in services.

It has conflicts when that setting is activated and you do a minor microsoft component change like VC++ runtimes, IE upgrades, other services changes, etc you will get a BSOD since the update service that's required doesn't start. Had that happen on 08R2 2 times so I stopped disabling the service bc I ended up having to reinstall windows when it happened... no fixes were available for it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It has conflicts when that setting is activated and you do a minor microsoft component change like VC++ runtimes, IE upgrades, other services changes, etc you will get a BSOD since the update service that's required doesn't start. Had that happen on 08R2 2 times so I stopped disabling the service bc I ended up having to reinstall windows when it happened... no fixes were available for it.

That's not quite how it works, generally. If you delete the update service then yes installations that update or install library runtimes that depend on the update service are going to close without finishing the install. But they are not suppose to BSOD. And disabling the service isn't suppose to do anything to installation but give a "service not running error". Most continue unaffected. It seems far more likely that you are doing something very wrong to your installation of Windows.

 

[remixedcat]

nope I've gotten BSODs when I rebooted... a lot of those above indicated require a reboot and the BSOD happens on reboot and windows won't let you in.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Still doesn't beat the "You computer will restart in XX minutes to complete the installation of the updates" without the possibility to cancel that. (Win 7)