Yeah... having a degree in engineering or computer science doesn't make you good at making decision.
-Pricing the R7 1700 at $320 and the 1800X at $500 when the 1700 is almost as fast the 1800X is DUMB.
Not if stop and think for a second. Knowing that all Ryzen 7 are the same silicon just being tested and binned and 4Ghz is their limit. I'm pretty sure that they have way more 1700s than 1800s binned for sale.
So that's why the buyer is steered towards 1700.
And there are always gonna be people who would not mind paying extra to get the best thing out of the box.
Also sometimes applying simple math doesn't always work.
Like 50% more expensive but only 20% faster so means its not worth it.
Look it like this compare build vs build.
Ryzen 7 1800x build $1200 Ryzen 7 1700 build $1000 20% more expensive and 20% faster that sounds about right.
-Selling +$200 motherboards for chips that don't overlock is DUMB.
Ryzen 7 1700 can overclock from 3GHz base clock to 4GHz I would call that a good overclock.
I don't think that AMD initially wanted to clock the chips so high but once they did the initial benchmarks they were left with the choices of having
poor performing product or poor overclocker.
They went with the second choice which I think is great damage limitation from AMD.
Plus with time the manufacturing will improve and I think we will get chips that will oc higher.
-Marketing these 8 core CPUs as gemming products when they're absolutely not is DUMB.
Not good at gaming based on couple games that when they were developed not even the first transistor in Ryzen wasn't designed.
Kicking 7700k@5GHz,(aka the best gaming cpu) ass.
I would say that qulifies the Ryzen 7 as gaming cpu.
Do I have to keep going?
-Pricing the R7 1700 at $320 and the 1800X at $500 when the 1700 is almost as fast the 1800X is
DUMB.
Not if stop and think for a second. Knowing that all Ryzen 7 are the same silicon just being tested and binned and 4Ghz is their limit. I'm pretty sure that they have way more 1700s than 1800s binned for sale.
So that's why the buyer is steered towards 1700.
And there are always gonna be people who would not mind paying extra to get the best thing out of the box.
Also sometimes applying simple math doesn't always work.
Like 50% more expensive but only 20% faster so means its not worth it.
Look it like this compare build vs build.
Ryzen 7 1800x build $1200 Ryzen 7 1700 build $1000 20% more expensive and 20% faster that sounds about right.
-Selling +$200 motherboards for chips that don't overlock is
DUMB.
Ryzen 7 1700 can overclock from 3GHz base clock to 4GHz I would call that a good overclock.
I don't think that AMD initially wanted to clock the chips so high but once they did the initial benchmarks they were left with the choices of having
poor performing product or poor overclocker.
They went with the second choice which I think is great damage limitation from AMD.
Plus with time the manufacturing will improve and I think we will get chips that will oc higher.
-Marketing these 8 core CPUs as gemming products when they're absolutely not is
DUMB.
Not good at gaming based on couple games that when they were developed when not even the first transistor in Ryzen wasn't designed.
Kicking 7700k@5GHz,(aka the best gaming cpu) ass.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachments/ryzen-1700-wins-jpg.85497/
I would say that qulifies the Ryzen 7 as gaming cpu.
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Please don't.
Don't strain your self any more your might kill some more brain cells.
I don't think you can afford it.
