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Microsoft Lifts "Spying" Components in Windows 10 for Chinese Government Version

"Joint-venture" as in the Chinese supplied their requirements and MS complied, or that the former had their hand inside the source code?
Still waiting for the EU to stop tearing itself apart and make MS bake out a "non-spying" Windows 10 N.




As an engineer, I have to admit that I sympathize with Microsoft on the the necessity of data on making and maintaining a well performing system. I completely oppose their forceful approach with it (that is, not having an opt-out option for non-enterprise users. I can rationalize it being on by default though), and I wouldn't say that it is impossible to work without it, but I wouldn't even dream about saying that it wouldn't make a nigh and day difference in the product!

See, almost everyone is fine with the data collected that involves system performance, crashes, ect. I can completely understand collecting data to improve the OS. What people are mad about is the seemingly senseless data collection that does not go towards improving the OS. At the very least, if microsoft wants to collect data, they should make a privacy center where it shows you exactly what data has been collected. Like literally a log with [date][Service that collected the data][Name][Purpose] as the entry name. Heck, they could even make a right click option "don't send this kind of data" if they wanted to. Recording small bits into a .txt or .xml log file wouldn't really increase overhead either.
 
Good ol China
 
No offense, but microsoft has never said it can't be disabled, just that it breaks "apps" LTSB has it disabled (I know because I use it). Apps don't work well if at all on LTSB, the store doesn't even get included.

Does this version have apps, me wonders? I'm willing to bet what we're being told is still a line of bs, but I'm interested to know.
 
Now I will wait till some Chinese group releases it. Thanks in advance.
That was my thoughts at first but then, meh. Probably it'll come out with more spyware built in than a regular Windows 10 version.
 
No offense, but microsoft has never said it can't be disabled, just that it breaks "apps" LTSB has it disabled (I know because I use it). Apps don't work well if at all on LTSB, the store doesn't even get included.

Does this version have apps, me wonders? I'm willing to bet what we're being told is still a line of bs, but I'm interested to know.

I've got pretty much zero desire to use the App store, or the apps contained therein. I want a relatively stable OS, that plays my games well, lets me make stupid changes like desktop resolution and user passwords, makes it easy to mess with my network settings, and doesn't spy on everything I might type or install.
 
It's not that bad, it can get warm some times but no AC just really sucks at the worst. You can't even cook food on your dash like in Arizona/Nevada.

different type of heat. dry heat vs humid

I'm a Palm Beacher, i.e. Northern Cuba. You guys up North and the rest of the country might disown us down here but it's still Florida. I'm sorry after spending a year in Ariz, I can say that we have no claim to heat that shit is scary. I'm sorry, I'll take high 90s with a high index vs low index 100+ any day after experiencing it firsthand.

I'm the opposite, I can take NV 100 degree heat pretty well, but that 90% humidity sucks the life right out of me
 
Most likely they will use Baidu, which is actually better than Bing.
And besides Baidu is the BigBrother of the Chinese Gov. So is a win-win. ;)
Baidu sends skype spam tho
 
Still waiting for the EU to stop tearing itself apart and make MS bake out a "non-spying" Windows 10 N.
And that would be worth paying money for. Microsoft can stuff their "free" version up their backsides. But a version with the spying removed and complete user control turned back on? Sign me up and I'll happily buy. Not until then.
 
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Imagine that. This news totally caught me by surprise...
 
I really doubt the gov't here in the States is going to put any pressure on MS for their own interests or citizens. What is even the point now? The US Senate just OK'd your ISP collecting anything they want and selling it without your permission or knowledge. If the car has already hit the tree what is the point of getting an oil change?

lol the US gov't probably pressured Microsoft into putting in those 'telemetry' features in the first place.
 
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