AMD "Polaris" Based Radeon RX 570 and RX 580 Pictured

[oxidized]

AMD burned most of its R&D cash on Ryzen (a very smart move) and majority of the rest went to Vega. It makes absolutely no sense to invest in the Polaris 10/11 chips anymore as they cover the needs of the majority of the gamers.

GDDR5X could probably add some speed, but:
a) it probably costs a lot of money to implement it, which AMD doesn't have
b) the cards won't reach 1070 levels no matter how fast the RAM speed is, they are already competitive with 1060 which matters most
c) it will probably increase card costs to a level where they will have a questionable perf/price
d) the competition doesn't seem to plan any refreshes with major performance boosts

If the RX 500 series solves the majority of the RX 400 series problems (too high voltage which causes stability problems), they already done a good enough job.

They should however have released the cards as RX 485, RX 475, and RX 465 and most of the complaints would go away.

Agreed 100%

 

[ZoneDymo]

480's don't have an issue selling regardless if you don't want to pay for one...

Not saying they have, but im not the odd individual, drop it by a nice 50 bucks and I would have no problem picking one up right away, would not think twice about it.
And with me a lot of others would not either.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Waste of Silicon and money from AMD. One of the most pointless releases from AMD's history. Even more pointless than the HD 68xx series.

 

[cdawall]

Pretty missed opportunity to use the new 9Gbit gddr5 memory. Also i see they are still using this shit cooler.

If it hits the 95W power target it should have when released as the 480, the cooler will be more than enough.

 

[Ungari]

@Ungari don't wet your pants...

Too late!

 

[Ungari]

I am amazed that AMD is going with rebrands, after a mediocre year of non competing. cmon AMD, you finally have a CPU worth buying, and your GPU department fell asleep at the wheel again? Not even a bigger polaris chip?

I mean, itll be another year of AMD's x8x chip competing against nvidia's xx6x chip. AMD's x9x chip will most likely be a 1070 competitor, with the 1080 and ti being completely unopposed for another year, assuming they actually get vega out on time.

Actually, many of us have been anticipating not a re-branding, but a refresh as this new process gets refined producing a higher ratio of what have been commercial binned top silicon capable lower TDP for much higher clock speeds.
Hopefully, this is the case here.

 

[XiGMAKiD]

I hope it can be overclocked higher than RX400 or priced a bit lower, or otherwise it's a waste of time

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Branding these as the 500 series doesn't make a ton of sense conceptually, and 465/75/85 would have been a bit more honest. But I don't see how the release is a waste of time. Why wouldn't they put the manufacturing refinements to good use? What are they supposed to do, have a bunch of faster chips coming off the line and sell them at the old clock rates or under the old names? The former is ridiculous from a technical perspective, the latter from a marketing one. Nobody's expecting 470/480 owners to bite on these, but the bump over the 400 cards might entice people who haven't upgraded yet this cycle to take the leap.

Man, leave it to the PC community to complain about a performance increase.

 

[cdawall]

Branding these as the 500 series doesn't make a ton of sense conceptually, and 465/75/85 would have been a bit more honest. But I don't see how the release is a waste of time. Why wouldn't they put the manufacturing refinements to good use? What are they supposed to do, have a bunch of faster chips coming off the line and sell them at the old clock rates or under the old names? The former is ridiculous from a technical perspective, the latter from a marketing one. Nobody's expecting 470/480 owners to bite on these, but the bump over the 400 cards might entice people who haven't upgraded yet this cycle to take the leap.

Man, leave it to the PC community to complain about a performance increase.

It is a different process. It isn't very often either company has released a new process under the same line up.

 

[Jism]

HAHA look at that coke nail and the horrible TIM job. this is too funny.

"Engineering sample"

Are you dumb?

 

[ratirt]

Slight change of events. I remember people saying that Vega will be 5xx and it is not. Well as expected. AMD is releasing improved Polaris as 5xx as expected (I speak for myself here). Question is will it be noticeably better than the RX 4xx lineup? I hope so. Wonder how the OC department will suit the new RX 5xx series It will probably not reach 1070 GTX like somebody stated here but GOD please. it was never meant to reach 1070. Where do you people get this stuff, ideas? Wonder what would happen if it come closer
I'm really glad that AMD releases 500 series as Polaris. I just want to see the improvement and performance/price. Knowing the price points for rx 480 and 470 I believe AMD will do just fine and it will be best buy performance/price. I just want to know what would be the performance and where this new lineup will end up.

 

[dj-electric]

Slight change of events. I remember people saying that Vega will be 5xx and it is not. Well as expected. AMD is releasing improved Polaris as 5xx as expected (I speak for myself here). Question is will it be noticeably better than the RX 4xx lineup? I hope so. Wonder how the OC department will suit the new RX 5xx series It will probably not reach 1070 GTX like somebody stated here but GOD please. it was never meant to reach 1070. Where do you people get this stuff, ideas? Wonder what would happen if it come closer
I'm really glad that AMD releases 500 series as Polaris. I just want to see the improvement and performance/price. Knowing the price points for rx 480 and 470 I believe AMD will do just fine and it will be best buy performance/price. I just want to know what would be the performance and where this new lineup will end up.

They are using the exact same core architecture and memory chips.

Seriously, what can one expect more than +3-5% performance compered to 3rd party RX 480s that already exist.

 

[Ungari]

If you begin with a stock clock of 1340Mhz, you could possibly get 1525Mhz if the same amount of OC currently achievable on Air holds true.

 

[ratirt]

They are using the exact same core architecture and memory chips.

Seriously, what can one expect more than +3-5% performance compered to 3rd party RX 480s that already exist.

Well, just one suggestion to your comment. IT's not intel

 

[dj-electric]

Well, just one suggestion to your comment. IT's not intel

HD 7850 to R7 265
HD 7870 to R9 270X
HD 7970 to R9 280X
R9 290X to R9 390X

etc etc etc...

I'm gonna ask again, why would anyone at this point expect more than +3-5% performance compered to 3rd party RX 480s that already exist?
And no, "they are not shintel or Novideo" is not a smart answer.

 

[Upgrayedd]

"Engineering sample"

Are you dumb?

"Engineering" means the TIM goes to shit and gets spread all over crap? Guess since I'm no engineer that I must be dumb and they MUST be right about the shitty ass TIM job..

 

[Jism]

"Engineering" means the TIM goes to shit and gets spread all over crap? Guess since I'm no engineer that I must be dumb and they MUST be right about the shitty ass TIM job..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_sample

It's far from being the retail product. It can even come across without paste, they are not entitled to actually.