Rumored Intel Kaby Lake-G Series: Modular, Multi-Die, HBM 2, AMD Graphics IP?

[renz496]

That deal with nvidia expired last year and they signed with AMD now.

any official proof that intel already signed the deal with AMD?

 

[renz496]

"deal", more as a lawsuit that resulted in forced license of IP which Intel didn't want.

intel is not forced to it. in fact it is intel that needs it. intel signed cross licensing deal with nvidia back in 2004 so they can make their own gpu without infringing nvidia patent. the deal also allow nvidia to make chipsets for intel CPU. the deal was supposed to expire in 2011. but in 2008/2009 things start heating up between intel and nvidia when intel did not allow nvidia to make new chipset for intel new CPU. this is the actual problem back then but some people made mistake thinking that it was about nvidia graphic IP only.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I wonder if these are heading for new iMac's or something?

 

[mtcn77]

I can just see this technology making for killer consoles and that's a good thing.

I have deep admiration for Intel engineers who put out Broadwell L4. Currently, I don't see another such disruptive technology. Expensive, true, but such hit rates are unheard of. If they stratify it into Vega's HBCC complex which we know Vega is capable of heterogeneously controlling, it would be one quick Labarree reboot.

 

[john_]

I think Intel is still married to Nvidia GPUs.
I don't think Intel gonna want to feed AMD with Ryzen attacking Intel on all fronts by the end of the year.
$264 Millions annually for the GPU licencing is what Intel is paying Nvidia.
Putting those extra money into AMD pocket would definitely hurt Intel in the long run.

A strong AMD can take 10-20-30% of the x86 market from Intel, while Intel can cover those losses in the autonomous automobile business. Both AMD and Intel can keep x86 going strong for many many years, keeping the processor as the most important factor in a system.

A strong Nvidia can have a devastating effect in Intel's future, promoting the ARM platform everywhere with the rest of the companies creating ARM processors and eventually, in a future where AMD will be irrelevant in the GPU business, locking it's GPUs into the ARM platform, making that platform the de facto gaming platform. By also promoting GPUs as the most important factor in a system, Intel's future will not be guaranteed. Not to mention that Nvidia is a strong competitor in the autonomous market.

 

[qubit]

I have deep admiration for Intel engineers who put out Broadwell L4. Currently, I don't see another such disruptive technology. Expensive, true, but such hit rates are unheard of. If they stratify it into Vega's HBCC complex which we know Vega is capable of heterogeneously controlling, it would be one quick Labarree reboot.

Indeed, I've never doubted that Intel could put out killer graphics cards if they really wanted to compete with AMD or even NVIDIA. They're big enough to buy the best talent if they need to.

 

[Frick]

Well, they have a thing going with Mobileye already.

https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/automotive/autonomous-vehicles.html

Aye, in the long run Intel will definitely battle with Nvidia. Or rather, they already do. Also in IoT and deep learning. Nvidia has several legs to stand on and most of them competes with Intel.

Anyway, Intel should be pretty capable of making a decent iGPU. Iris Pro has shown us that.

 

[r9]

Indeed, I've never doubted that Intel could put out killer graphics cards if they really wanted to compete with AMD or even NVIDIA. They're big enough to buy the best talent if they need to.

Yeah Intel can build a powerful gpu but not without zillion patent infringements.
Its hard to build a building when somebody else posses all the land to build on.
And the actually tried building GPU based on reduced instruction Pentium 4 cores.
They stuck like 70-80 cores together. Did their benchmarks, they were waaay behind both AMD and Nvidia and they decided to call it a day.