• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Pushes Motherboard + Optane Bundles, "Coffee Lake" in August

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,230 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Back in April, we reported motherboard manufacturer MSI bundling Intel's Optane cache SSD with a few of its mid-range motherboards. While not free, the bundle would be slightly cheaper than the sum of its parts (buying the board and SSD separately). At the time we predicted that other motherboard vendors could launch similar bundles. It turns out that Intel is indeed coordinating motherboard + Optane SSD bundles.

In a bid to boost sales of its 200-series chipset motherboards and Core "Kaby Lake" processors, Intel is coordinating bundles of motherboards across brands with its Optane cache SSDs. Analysts predict that this could be an inventory-clearing exercise by Intel, because it plans to launch its next-generation Core "Coffee Lake" processors by late-August, 2017. "Coffee Lake" will see the introduction of six-core processor SKUs to Intel's mainstream-desktop platform, which is currently led by the quad-core i7-7700K "Kaby Lake."



In all likelihood, Intel could change the socket with "Coffee Lake," and introduce a new chipset, making current 200-series chipset boards and Core "Kaby Lake" processors bad options. The company already pushed two generations of processors, the 6th generation Core "Skylake" and 7th generation Core "Kaby Lake" through the LGA1151 platform, which has two generations of chipset - 100-series and 200-series. Given that Intel isn't going to transition from its current 14 nm process in the near-term, a 14 nm six-core processor could likely have higher electrical requirements than what the LGA1151 socket can afford. Add to that, Intel's quad-core "Kaby Lake" parts already ship with TDP as high as 91W.

In the meantime, Intel has its eyes on the over 130 motherboard models that are based on 200-series chipset, and support Optane SSD caching.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Mar 13, 2012
Messages
278 (0.06/day)
Intel Panicking, they finally realized they can not sell same old tech repackaged over and over again with AMD breathing down their necks.

Competition at it's best, more power, innovation and lower prices, a bright x86/x64 future ahead of us.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,596 (2.41/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Not all combinations support Optane though, you need a Core i processor or better and the B250 chipset or higher.
 

FordGT90Concept

"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Joined
Oct 13, 2008
Messages
26,259 (4.46/day)
Location
IA, USA
System Name BY-2021
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile)
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling Scythe Mugen (rev 5)
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-3200 32 GiB
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT
Storage Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse Nixeus REVEL-X
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
Still 14nm. I wonder what Gordon Moore thinks of that.
 
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
3,505 (0.61/day)
I feel like Skylake and Skylake 2.0 (AKA Kabylake) never lived their full potential. Those two CPU gens were a disaster.
 
Joined
Apr 1, 2010
Messages
220 (0.04/day)
so intel is going to change socket because of power problem? i don't think so. if amd can make 65w 6 cores cpu than intel can. the 6 cores will end up with higher price than current i5.
 
Joined
Jan 5, 2006
Messages
18,584 (2.69/day)
System Name AlderLake
Processor Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s) 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s) Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software Windows 11
Benchmark Scores Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,091 (6.63/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
6 gen/7th gen were bad buys anyway. Those who are on 1366, 1155, 1150 are sticking to them.
 

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
28,473 (4.10/day)
Location
Indiana, USA
Processor Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
Memory 32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super
Storage 500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28"
Case Fractal Design Define S
Audio Device(s) Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Optane SSD caching isn't exciting because the drives are too small. Just raise the limit on RST so we can use larger regular SSD drives and I'd be happy.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,596 (2.41/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
Optane SSD caching isn't exciting because the drives are too small. Just raise the limit on RST so we can use larger regular SSD drives and I'd be happy.

But, but... How is Intel supposed to be able to sell you new, overpriced tech then?
 
Joined
Apr 3, 2010
Messages
800 (0.15/day)
Location
US
System Name Desktop
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X [3.7GHz/4.6GHz][6C/12T]
Motherboard ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PRO [X570]
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition
Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB [DDR4 3600][2x16GB][16-19-19-39@1.35V]
Video Card(s) ASUS KO GeForce RTX 3060 Ti V2 OC Edition 8GB GDDR6 [511.65]
Storage [OS] Samsung 970 Evo 500GB | [Storage] 980 1TB | 860 Evo 1TB | 850 Evo 500GB | Seagate Firecuda 2TB
Display(s) LG 27GL850 [27"][2560x1440@144Hz][Nano IPS][LED][G-SYNC Compatible][DP]
Case Corsair Obsidian 750D
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC S1200A High Definition Audio CODEC
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G1+ [+12V: 83.3A 999.6W][80 Plus Gold]
Mouse Logitech M570 Trackball
Keyboard Corsair Gaming K55 RGB
Software Microsoft Windows 10 Pro [21H1][64-bit]
Went from 1366 X58 i7 920 to 1151 Z170 i5 6600K a couple of years ago, so far I'm happy with my purchase, though it was more for the improved motherboard features and because my Bloomfield system was 6 years old.
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2015
Messages
235 (0.07/day)
Location
Sol system, ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
System Name The Yellow Box
Processor AMD K5 100
Motherboard Intel 5DVX0130
Cooling A snazzy stock cooler
Memory 64MB EDO SIMM
Video Card(s) ATI Mach 64 4MB + Creative Voodoo 8MB
Storage IBM 1.6GB IDE + IBM 3.2GB IDE
Display(s) 15" AOC CRT (Terrible, terrible POS)
Case Cheapo Yellow Box
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster
Power Supply No name 200W
Mouse Microsoft IntelliMouse
Keyboard Cherry G80
Software Windows 98Se
Optane was awesome on paper, and would have been a rather good alternative to SSD, if it was launched in 2015. Alas, it's 2017 now and it's an utter failure.
Not only is it not any better than an entry level SSD, it’s more expensive and only works within a very specific setup.

Maybe v2 will be better (if it doesn’t die out by then). Either way it’s yet another disappointment, which Intel has been having a lot lately.

so intel is going to change socket because of power problem? i don't think so. if amd can make 65w 6 cores cpu than intel can. the 6 cores will end up with higher price than current i5.

Don’t think anyone was seriously expecting that they wouldn’t change the chipset, or even the socket.
1150 had 2 CPU and 2 chipset revisions, after that 1151 came out. The story repeats, 2 CPU and 2 chipsets revisions, and it’s time for a new socket and CPU.

Well AMD can make 65W 8-core chips (R7 1 700). That said Intel can also make them (Xeon), it’s just that they are well below 2GHz.
 
Joined
Jul 29, 2014
Messages
484 (0.13/day)
Location
Fort Sill, OK
Processor Intel 7700K 5.1Ghz (Intel advised me not to OC this CPU)
Motherboard Asus Maximus IX Code
Cooling Corsair Hydro H115i Platinum
Memory 48GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4 3200 Dual Channel (2x16 & 2x8)
Video Card(s) nVIDIA Titan XP (Overclocks like a champ but stock performance is enough)
Storage Intel 760p 2280 2TB
Display(s) MSI Optix MPG27CQ Black 27" 1ms 144hz
Case Thermaltake View 71
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 1000 Platinum2
Mouse Corsair M65 Pro (not recommded, I am on my second mouse with same defect)
Software Windows 10 Enterprise 1803
Benchmark Scores Yes I am Intel fanboy that is my benchmark score.
I feel like Skylake and Skylake 2.0 (AKA Kabylake) never lived their full potential. Those two CPU gens were a disaster.

Exactly Kabylake was just released and already outclassed by bunch of low life AMD :respect: j/k.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
Optane was awesome on paper, and would have been a rather good alternative to SSD, if it was launched in 2015. Alas, it's 2017 now and it's an utter failure.
Not only is it not any better than an entry level SSD, it’s more expensive and only works within a very specific setup.

Maybe v2 will be better (if it doesn’t die out by then). Either way it’s yet another disappointment, which Intel has been having a lot lately.



Don’t think anyone was seriously expecting that they wouldn’t change the chipset, or even the socket.
1150 had 2 CPU and 2 chipset revisions, after that 1151 came out. The story repeats, 2 CPU and 2 chipsets revisions, and it’s time for a new socket and CPU.

Well AMD can make 65W 8-core chips (R7 1 700). That said Intel can also make them (Xeon), it’s just that they are well below 2GHz.

Main problem is really the fact most people don't have a clue what's hybrid storage and those that kinda do think it's crap. Go figure. With SSD and at larger capacities, it would cost the same and actually be more efficient. Optane cache is more or less proof of concept thing. I think Intel released it just to see how it operates in real world conditions before they deploy it for corporate use. Can't see any other reason why they'd push out same tech as they already have in same capacity years ago (Intel Smart Response or whatever that thing was that did the same thing, but with SSD).
And this silly limiting to latest chipsets just makes it even less interesting for everyone. I mean, most people who buy Z270 chipset today would rather just buy a larger SSD than use hybrid. Which kinda defeats the purpose of Optane by itself. I mean, if you spend 1500 on new system, what difference does extra 300€ make, really for a 1+ TB SSD...
 

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
12,699 (2.91/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name 4K-gaming
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ PBO +200 -20CO
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero
Cooling Arctic Freezer 50, EKWB Vector TUF
Memory 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3466
Video Card(s) Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB
Storage 3.3TB of SSDs + 3TB USB3.0 HDDs
Display(s) 27" 4K120 IPS + 32" 4K60 IPS + 24" 1080p60
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow White
Audio Device(s) Asus TUF H3 Wireless / Corsair HS35
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Logitech MX518 + Asus ROG Strix Edge Nordic
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores It runs Crysis
Not all combinations support Optane though, you need a Core i processor or better and the B250 chipset or higher.
What, Pentiums doesn't support?

I feel like Skylake and Skylake 2.0 (AKA Kabylake) never lived their full potential. Those two CPU gens were a disaster.
Ehm, Broadwell (yeah, I know that IGPU, but for a typical user).. :rolleyes:
 
Joined
Apr 2, 2009
Messages
3,505 (0.61/day)
Intel never targeted desktop users for Broadwell, so I am going to let it slide.
 

AsRock

TPU addict
Joined
Jun 23, 2007
Messages
19,080 (3.00/day)
Location
UK\USA
Coffee Lake lmao, they been on to much coffee.

so intel is going to change socket because of power problem? i don't think so. if amd can make 65w 6 cores cpu than intel can. the 6 cores will end up with higher price than current i5.

AMD More core's, intel MORE sockets.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
14,084 (3.82/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name H7 Flow 2024
Processor AMD 5800X3D
Motherboard Asus X570 Tough Gaming
Cooling Custom liquid
Memory 32 GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Intel ARC A750
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 2TB.
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse Lenovo
Keyboard Eweadn Mechanical
Software W11 Pro 64 bit
Coffee Lake lmao, they been on to much coffee.



AMD More core's, intel MORE sockets.
Gotta keep that turn over happening to keep income flowing.
 

TheLostSwede

News Editor
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
17,596 (2.41/day)
Location
Sweden
System Name Overlord Mk MLI
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE with offsets
Memory 32GB Team T-Create Expert DDR5 6000 MHz @ CL30-34-34-68
Video Card(s) Gainward GeForce RTX 4080 Phantom GS
Storage 1TB Solidigm P44 Pro, 2 TB Corsair MP600 Pro, 2TB Kingston KC3000
Display(s) Acer XV272K LVbmiipruzx 4K@160Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) Corsair Virtuoso SE
Power Supply be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Corsair K70 Max
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores https://valid.x86.fr/yfsd9w
What, Pentiums doesn't support?

No. Scroll down to the bottom of this page for a list of supported processors and chipsets http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/optane-memory.html

But for whatever reason, Intel is displaying whatever this is, as the picture of an Optane ready board...
 
Last edited:

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
12,699 (2.91/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name 4K-gaming
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ PBO +200 -20CO
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero
Cooling Arctic Freezer 50, EKWB Vector TUF
Memory 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3466
Video Card(s) Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB
Storage 3.3TB of SSDs + 3TB USB3.0 HDDs
Display(s) 27" 4K120 IPS + 32" 4K60 IPS + 24" 1080p60
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow White
Audio Device(s) Asus TUF H3 Wireless / Corsair HS35
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Logitech MX518 + Asus ROG Strix Edge Nordic
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores It runs Crysis
Top