Samsung 850 Pro SSD Reaches End of Life With 9100 TB Written

Toothless · Jun 27, 2017

Readlight said:
80-100 euro for product who will die soon tlc 750 evo fuck you samsung give my mony back, take your shit back!

Someone has obvious issues with Sammy..

Nuckles56 · Jun 28, 2017

What I wish they would also do is not only see how long the drives will continue to have data written to them for but whether the drive can still store the data for say 2 weeks without issues (with the drive fully disconnected) after having so much written to it.

HopelesslyFaithful · Jun 28, 2017

while most peoples die at 100TB or less :/

Pure Wop · Jun 28, 2017

Well. My 840 Pro died after less than two years and maybe... 9.1TB written. One of my friend had a similar story as well. TBW doesn't seem to be what is killing the SSDs at all.

Xzibit · Jun 28, 2017

Pure Wop said:
Well. My 840 Pro died after less than two years and maybe... 9.1TB written. One of my friend had a similar story as well. TBW doesn't seem to be what is killing the SSDs at all.

These test don't take power up/down cycles into consideration. Unless these test are catered to no downtime "PC users" which the original article refers to. Not sure they be buying such low capacities to begin with.

Just leave your PC on all the time to get the most out of your SSD.

eidairaman1 · Jun 28, 2017

Pure Wop said:
Well. My 840 Pro died after less than two years and maybe... 9.1TB written. One of my friend had a similar story as well. TBW doesn't seem to be what is killing the SSDs at all.

Using 840 Pro since 2014

D3m0n5 · Jun 28, 2017

Well done! Not too surprising as when we built SSD firmware we built it from the ground up to compensate for the natural high bit error rate that comes with NAND flash technology. Hard drive vendors never had to implement the levels of redundancy and error detection and correction we did. In fact you could say we overengineered the firmware from the beginning and when Sandforce became popular some really neat tricks showed up that helped extend life expectancy on 2x and 2y nm architecture. Still, congrats to the engineering and QA team at Samsung

Deleted member 67555 · Jun 28, 2017

I have 4 year old SanDisk extreme's still chugging away in DVR service...

HopelesslyFaithful · Jun 28, 2017

jmcslob said:
I have 4 year old SanDisk extreme's still chugging away in DVR service...

Yea my 480GB one has 50TB writes on it and like 500TB reads. I dont use it that much anymore so it doesnt get thrashed like it used it. Sits mostly idle in my server now. I was doing 150GB a day at oncce point on average so its more like 500GB one day and none another day.

erixx · Jun 28, 2017

Is the value to look for in Smart device info this one: "Total LBAs Written" ?
Mine says "18 TB"
(There is no TBW)

R0H1T · Jun 28, 2017

Xzibit said:
These test don't take power up/down cycles into consideration. Unless these test are catered to no downtime "PC users" which the original article refers to. Not sure they be buying such low capacities to begin with.

Just leave your PC on all the time to get the most out of your SSD.

I'd like to think that unless your PSU is crap &/or you have frequent power cuts, with no UPS, the power cycles shouldn't matter.
In fact there ought to be a thorough investigation into SSD controllers instead of the RAW NAND, the controllers seem to make a lot more difference than the NAND these days.

R-T-B · Jun 28, 2017

Vya Domus said:
I hope that with this , the myth of SSDs being fragile is going to be eradicated. Finally

To be fair, it only became a fictional myth after crap like OCZ used to sell vacated the market.

Chaitanya · Jun 28, 2017

R-T-B said:
To be fair, it only became a fictional myth after crap like OCZ used to sell vacated the market.

Under Toshiba I think things have improved a lot. Although it seems like even Toshiba is having difficulties maintaining that brand.

Prima.Vera · Jun 28, 2017

How are the EVOs doing on this story??

Vya Domus said:
I hope that with this , the myth of SSDs being fragile is going to be eradicated. Finally

If is not OCZ you don't have anything to worry about.

D3m0n5 said:
Well done! Not too surprising as when we built SSD firmware we built it from the ground up to compensate for the natural high bit error rate that comes with NAND flash technology. Hard drive vendors never had to implement the levels of redundancy and error detection and correction we did. In fact you could say we overengineered the firmware from the beginning and when Sandforce became popular some really neat tricks showed up that helped extend life expectancy on 2x and 2y nm architecture. Still, congrats to the engineering and QA team at Samsung

Where are you working at? Thanks.

Easo · Jun 28, 2017

Having some 20 TB on my 2 2.5 year old 850 Pro 512GB model... Yeah, most likely I will still have it in use after another 3-4 years.

Daisho · Jun 29, 2017

I think atleast 1/3 to 1/2 of all the HDDs i've owned have died relatively early, yet i've not had a single SSD go out on me yet. I never understood the "SSDs will die too soon" myth/meme either.

Prima.Vera · Jun 29, 2017

Daisho said:
I never understood the "SSDs will die too soon" myth/meme either

Wasn't a myth. The first generations were utter crap. The OCZs were dropping like flies, Crucials, Kingstons, Sandisks, and most of Sandforce controller ones, all used to be very crappy reliability wise. Then Samsung (starting with 830 servies) and Intel came and raised the bar with very reliable and high performance drives, and the others followed.

HopelesslyFaithful · Jun 29, 2017

Prima.Vera said:
Wasn't a myth. The first generations were utter crap. The OCZs were dropping like flies, Crucials, Kingstons, Sandisks, and most of Sandforce controller ones, all used to be very crappy reliability wise. Then Samsung (starting with 830 servies) and Intel came and raised the bar with very reliable and high performance drives, and the others followed.

the first sammy TLCs were utter shit. It wasn't until the EVO line that they weren't awful. I had the 830 or 840 non EVO and it was awful and switched to a Sandisk Extreme Pro with massive difference in performance and consistency.

trparky · Jun 29, 2017

I still have two Samsung 840 non-EVO SSDs running in two machines. They may not be the best SSDs but they still sure beat the shit out of a regular spinning hard drive. Then again, that's not very hard to do.

S@LEM! · Jun 29, 2017

so what happen after they failed? how about the data? can you still read them? or they just gone? is there any recovery solution?
why only me who consider what will happen to the data after SSD fails..

HopelesslyFaithful · Jun 30, 2017

S@LEM! said:
so what happen after they failed? how about the data? can you still read them? or they just gone? is there any recovery solution?
why only me who consider what will happen to the data after SSD fails..

depends what fails but the average joe or even a geek isn't going to do it.

EarthDog · Jun 30, 2017

S@LEM! said:
so what happen after they failed? how about the data? can you still read them? or they just gone? is there any recovery solution?
why only me who consider what will happen to the data after SSD fails..

typically its a dead, cant retrieve the data. People more than you worry...lol.

That said, ways have a solid backup plan and toy wont lose mjch, if any, data. Same goes with HDDs too...

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