Name the last time the "not optimized" driver argument was made? They are never optimized they are never this never that etc. Stop making excuses for bad PR hyping up half finished products.
440w. I'm sorry, but as someone who deals with that kind of heat in a case from graphics cards people don't realize the other issues it causes.
Oh god, you're still not getting it what "optimizations" we're talking about. These aren't the kind of "5% here and 3% there" optimizations that entirely fall down to individual games. We were talking about optimizations in terms of giving a GAMING RX Vega a FULLY WORKING driver. There was no need to give Vega FE such features as it performs ok as it is even without any of the fancy features. Where RX Vega explicitly depends on them. Releasing it when not ready would be just straight foolish as everyone would piss on it like they have on Vega FE. That's what we're saying the entire bloody time. If AMD knew they can't get anything out of it, what would be the point in postponing it for a whole month if the end result will be exactly the same?
You're bitching about bad PR and then in the same breath, you expect AMD to say outloud they don't have the drivers finished yet. That wouldn't be a bad press then, somehow... It's no secret that AMD doesn't have the resources to pull "magic" shit NVIDIA does, so give them some bloody slack, geez. Everyone pissing on AMD like everyone's life depends on it. Tired of waiting? Buy god damn GTX 1080. Many have and many will. I've decided to wait even though I was this <> close to just hitting a BUY button for AORUS GTX 1080Ti. Didn't wait last time with Fury X, but will now. RX Vega may turn out to be a good card despite power consumption, but if it doesn't, it'll still make some sort of competition on the market, making NVIDIA cards potentially cheaper. If that makes just 50€ less, then so be it. Right now is actually the worst time to be jumping to anything with RX Vega being literally around the corner. But whatever man, gotta go on beer with the fanboys now...
Also, those 440W. Yeah, it's a lot. But that's water cooled AND overclocked version where you can place the radiator on the case exhaust. Meaning it won't really affect case internal temperature. For normal stock state it's 350W and for air cooled, 300W. Still not ideal, but for the right price and maybe special features, who cares? Sure, it'll heat up the room, but so does my GTX 980. I have to run AC anyway. So, what difference does it make? For winter, you'll save up on heating. This is no joke, I've had just PC heating up my place for 2 winters now. The central heating radiator was closed except for the coldest days.
People make way too much drama about power consumption. If it's great, excellent. If it's not, then you check other benefits or tradeoffs and decide. But just universally taking a piss at products that have a certain power draw or thermals is becoming a really annoying habit of the actual fanboys. Particularly from the green camp. My HD7950 at 1.2 GHz was also a freaking furnace. But it was stupid fast. I didn't care. That was my decision. And I have the same with GTX 980. I could run it ultra cool at stock. But I've decided to max it all out. It's also a furnace, I could fry eggs on the backplate, it's that hot. But that's what I wanted and willingly decided for it. Who are you to say what I want or don't want? And same applies to all potential buyers of RX Vega. They are adults for the most part, we don't need your parroting how Vega's power draw is shit and horrible. We'll decide about that when it's actually released.
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