AMD Asks Reviewers to Prioritize Vega 56 over Vega 64

[yotano211]

I'm surprised we haven't heard more about Vega11 at this point. There is a huge gap between GTX 1060 and GTX 1070, and AMD should be rushing to fill that hole.

At this point I am sure they can barely supply the Vega 54 and the other one.

 

[dyonoctis]

I'm surprised we haven't heard more about Vega11 at this point. There is a huge gap between GTX 1060 and GTX 1070, and AMD should be rushing to fill that hole.

Looking at the current state of the market they would only be able to fill that gap for a week or two, then the greed will kick in, and vega 11 would be another overpriced gpu, because AMD don't think that dedicated mining gpu are a good thing.

http://markets.businessinsider.com/...nt-views-on-crytocurrencies-2017-8-1002252838

All the mining amd gpu that were "launched " were made by third party. But I've never seen a single one in any store, same for the dedicated mining GPU that Nvidia actually made, you won't find them in any store. Apparently the resselers don't like the idea of not inflating gpu price, and don't want to order mining gpu.

It's an issue for both camp because the mining hardware make by nvidia was though for it from the ground up : optimized for mining application, and lower energy comsumption. By making them so much better than their gaming counter part, it would have helped to avoid this chaos.

 

[efikkan]

Looking at the current state of the market they would only be able to fill that gap for a week or two, then the greed will kick in, and vega 11 would be another overpriced gpu, because AMD don't think that dedicated mining gpu are a good thing…

The mining fad is not going to last. Both Pascal and Polaris have been short supply for several periods before the Ethereum mania. The profitability of mining is decreasing with every GPU bought for mining, and if Vega are better at mining that's just going to accelerate the process.

 

[cdawall]

I already found a local supplier that can supply me with 8 on launch day or pre-order day.

I am going to be out of town or would be in the same boat as you. 2 per brand across 5 release day available brands.

 

[Jism]

Looking at the current state of the market they would only be able to fill that gap for a week or two, then the greed will kick in, and vega 11 would be another overpriced gpu, because AMD don't think that dedicated mining gpu are a good thing.

http://markets.businessinsider.com/...nt-views-on-crytocurrencies-2017-8-1002252838

All the mining amd gpu that were "launched " were made by third party. But I've never seen a single one in any store, same for the dedicated mining GPU that Nvidia actually made, you won't find them in any store. Apparently the resselers don't like the idea of not inflating gpu price, and don't want to order mining gpu.

It's an issue for both camp because the mining hardware make by nvidia was though for it from the ground up : optimized for mining application, and lower energy comsumption. By making them so much better than their gaming counter part, it would have helped to avoid this chaos.

Selling cards = profit. Wether it's on the mining, gaming or professional market, AMD nor Nvidia does'nt give any damn where those cards are going, as long as sales are being done. That is what counts.

 

[yotano211]

I am going to be out of town or would be in the same boat as you. 2 per brand across 5 release day available brands.

Its the same deal for me, 1 or 2 parts per brand is their limit. They didnt have limit on per 1 customer for entire purchase.

 

[Vayra86]

Selling cards = profit. Wether it's on the mining, gaming or professional market, AMD nor Nvidia does'nt give any damn where those cards are going, as long as sales are being done. That is what counts.

They do care to a degree; this is a classic tale of short term gains that come with long term losses. For example, even just the stock price of both companies is inflated as hell and that bubble WILL burst at some point, just like it already did for AMD some time ago, and Nvidia same thing. Those wild fluctuations are signs of instability and that is never good for profit. Stable markets are the most profitable because you can scale your production according to that and have more overall control of supply and demand. This allows for efficiency across the entire chain, from production, to store shelves, stockpiles/storage, brand presence etc etc etc. Miners effectively destroy that efficiency.

But if all else fails, of course both companies won't hesitate to make money. But increasing production lines because of mining? That one ain't never gonna happen, because it destroys efficiency and both companies incur a greater penalty later down the line.

 

[Fierce Guppy]

So wait Vega 56 isnt releasing till end of August rather than August 14?

IT'S. JUST. AROUND. THE. CORNER!

 

[Prima.Vera]

Those cards should have been released exactly 1 year ago...

 

[efikkan]

But if all else fails, of course both companies won't hesitate to make money. But increasing production lines because of mining? That one ain't never gonna happen, because it destroys efficiency and both companies incur a greater penalty later down the line.

Sure, there is a mining mania now, and it will pass, and perhaps we'll have one next year again, and so on. Still, the miners only buy a few thousand cards. The supply problem for Pascal and Polaris is larger than mining.

Starting new batches of GPUs will take ~5 months or so, if there were free production capacity. Additional production lines would have required billions of dollars in investments years ago…