Steam Adds Historical Review Data for Games to Counter Review Bombing

[LFaWolf]

He's just an immature gamer. I bet he tosses around the word "fag" and "retard" a lot too.

And he's a millennial. Even when they're not hipsters, they're ironic smartasses anyways.

I see. Then I think they did the right thing to pull him then. He did say the wrong thing and probably offended a lot of people.

 

[StrayKAT]

I see. Then I think they did the right thing to pull him then. He did say the wrong thing and probably offended a lot of people.

So this is just about bad taste and morality. I can understand this more. Except no one said this.

But to seriously think an Iranian is a Neo-Nazi is silly. Not only is he not German.. he's not even Caucasian. He's doubly screwed from being part of the "Master" race.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Now we can get back on track. This thread is about whether Steam is correct in adding this information on reviews, so that prospective purchasers can see if there is an organized attempt to bring a game down.

As I said earlier, I support it.

 

[IceScreamer]

More info is always good I guess. This looks more like a reaction to the Dota 2 reviews falling massively because of no Half Life 3 than any other reason.

Personally I never watch any reviews, who knows what good games I'd never even consider if I was reading and following reviews.

 

[LogitechFan]

Your logic is beyond me. Why is that ridiculous? Given the fact that JonTron is Iranian, it is no surprising that he made pro-Nazi or anti-Semitic comments. And no, I am not Jewish.

Nobody asked...

BTW, I think trash like this pie chap are full of it, so 3 strikes are always welcome, I think he will make a nice janitor (or a custodian).

Also any types of jokes are welcome on the internet. Deal with it. Why? FU, that's why ;D

 

[timta2]

All of this because of one word. If game developers would hear all the swearing and other "non correct" words I say when gaming goes wrong, they would have heart attack immediately.

Which happens to be one of, if not the most powerful, words there is. Even more so, the less white and privileged you are. The other "swear" words are of little comparison.

 

[StrayKAT]

Nobody asked...

BTW, I think trash like this pie chap are full of it, so 3 strikes are always welcome, I think he will make a nice janitor (or a custodian).

Also any types of jokes are welcome on the internet. Deal with it. Why? FU, that's why ;D

That dude won't be a janitor anytime soon. He could get banned and live well for life... along with his descendants. His net worth is over $100 million, I think. Just for screwing around on youtube.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Unless the "racist terms" were framed in a way that constitutes a hate crime under US law (because YouTube), PewDiePie's video should be protected under the 1st amendment. The copyright claim should be dismissed by YouTube as "fair use."

In other words, if Campo Santo wasn't prepared to press hate crime charges, they should have done nothing.

I see. Then I think they did the right thing to pull him then. He did say the wrong thing and probably offended a lot of people.

Offending isn't a crime. If people really cared, they'd stop supporting him. If enough stop, he'd go away.


Back on topic, I welcome the historical data on Steam reviews. Good games get tanked forever because of a premature launch. If they fix the issues with subsequent patching, it should be easy to see that.

 

[Vayra86]

Back on topic, I welcome the historical data on Steam reviews. Good games get tanked forever because of a premature launch. If they fix the issues with subsequent patching, it should be easy to see that.

Now hold on... you're saying two different things here

The historical data on steam reviews is good, because it just requires more filtering options. Right now its a big heap of chatter of which the vast majority of extremely low quality... although I somehow doubt that historical data will make quality go up. 10 year olds will be 10 year olds and stupid doesn't suddenly become smart.

But good games getting tanked forever because premature launch... that is really another one of Steam's big failures, the whole Early Access thing and the incredibly lacking quality control on that.

 

[StrayKAT]

Now hold on... you're saying two different things here

The historical data on steam reviews is good, because it just requires more filtering options. Right now its a big heap of chatter of which the vast majority of extremely low quality... although I somehow doubt that historical data will make quality go up. 10 year olds will be 10 year olds and stupid doesn't suddenly become smart.

But good games getting tanked forever because premature launch... that is really another one of Steam's big failures, the whole Early Access thing and the incredibly lacking quality control on that.

What games have tanked like that? I don't know of many actually.. except the recent D:OS2.. and that seems to be getting more praise than even the last one.

 

[Vayra86]

What games have tanked like that? I don't know of many actually.. except the recent D:OS2.. and that seems to be getting more praise than even the last one.

In my book, mostly games that deserved it. Early Access is volatile material and it is very good that developers have learned this the hard way, or still need to. I generally try to avoid games that promise too much (after one or two learning experiences myself ) and show too little so all I really have is examples of the opposite; such as Grim Dawn which also had a successful pre-launch and dev process.

 

[StrayKAT]

In my book, mostly games that deserved it. Early Access is volatile material and it is very good that developers have learned this the hard way, or still need to. I generally try to avoid games that promise too much (after one or two learning experiences myself ) and show too little so all I really have is examples of the opposite; such as Grim Dawn which also had a successful pre-launch and dev process.

Never heard of Grim Dawn. Maybe I'll check it out. Not the biggest Diablo fan, but they're fun to waste time with.

 

[Vayra86]

Never heard of Grim Dawn. Maybe I'll check it out. Not the biggest Diablo fan, but they're fun to waste time with.

I'll say this: if you liked Diablo 2, this is heaven.

 

[neatfeatguy]

I'll say this: if you liked Diablo 2, this is heaven.

Grim Dawn - from the creators of Titan Quest.
You'll get a mix of Titan Quest and Diablo II from this game. I've sunk a solid 200+ hours into the game. The company is releasing (soon, if I remember correctly) two new classes to the game and some other things, last I read about it....but that was 6 months ago. I think it's a large DLC, new area, new skills, a couple of classes. I'd venture to guess $10-20 for the DLC.

I'll pick up the DLC and play the crap out of the game again.

 

[StrayKAT]

Oh I didn't know it was created by the Titan Quest guys. I only read it used the same engine.

Which is funny, since that engine's gotta be old... It seems like I played Titan Quest like 10 years ago.

Not that you need much for this type of game though.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Steam reviews are BS, just a bunch of fan jerking each other off.
If you leave a negative review it gets bombared down because the fans feel bad for someone not liking what they like.
Because someone not liking something means its bad and them liking something that is bad makes them bad.
Idk people are very insecure it seems.

So its been bs for a while.

PewDiePie can die in a fire as well but that's unrelated.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Now hold on... you're saying two different things here

The historical data on steam reviews is good, because it just requires more filtering options. Right now its a big heap of chatter of which the vast majority of extremely low quality... although I somehow doubt that historical data will make quality go up. 10 year olds will be 10 year olds and stupid doesn't suddenly become smart.

But good games getting tanked forever because premature launch... that is really another one of Steam's big failures, the whole Early Access thing and the incredibly lacking quality control on that.

You can see the trends (what the game actually is) and the bursts (lovers/haters). Being visually able to distinguish the former from the latter should make more informed buyers.

 

[Vayra86]

You can see the trends (what the game actually is) and the bursts (lovers/haters). Being visually able to distinguish the former from the latter should make more informed buyers.

The irony here is that only the buyers who would have informed themselves better in the first place, will even consider looking at these charts for longer than five seconds to actually understand them. But yes, you're right in a general sense I think.

 

[StrayKAT]

I forgot one thing I do... I'm part of various "lists" who moderate favorite games. So that helps a lot, so long as you value the source. Like I get a lot of RPG recommendations from the RPGCodex channel (possibly the nastiest gaming board I've ever seen... but also one with great taste lol).

 

[kn00tcn]

These are the two prevailing arguments on the issue. That is what I'm reporting. I'm not telling you how to think, I'm asking What you think about those two sides. Really don't understand your post.

that was a bit of a rant, there were previous 'news' posts (not sure if yours or RTB's) that contained text like 'i for one' or 'this reporter thinks'

though in this case, even mentioning the two sides is injecting an idea into the reader, i didnt even expect to have a side mention censorship, opening up stats is the opposite of censorship, in which case it makes a lot more sense to only ask 'what do you think' so that commenters start thinking about what they really think, we could end up with five sides instead of two, a solid two for any topic is problematic due to this constant 'us vs them' mentality in the world these years