• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Delivers 17-qubit Superconducting Chip with Advanced Packaging to QuTech

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,313 (7.52/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Today, Intel announced the delivery of a 17-qubit superconducting test chip for quantum computing to QuTech, Intel's quantum research partner in the Netherlands. The new chip was fabricated by Intel and features a unique design to achieve improved yield and performance. The delivery of this chip demonstrates the fast progress Intel and QuTech are making in researching and developing a working quantum computing system. It also underscores the importance of material science and semiconductor manufacturing in realizing the promise of quantum computing.

Quantum computing, in essence, is the ultimate in parallel computing, with the potential to tackle problems conventional computers can't handle. For example, quantum computers may simulate nature to advance research in chemistry, materials science and molecular modeling - like helping to create a new catalyst to sequester carbon dioxide, or create a room temperature superconductor or discover new drugs. However, despite much experimental progress and speculation, there are inherent challenges to building viable, large-scale quantum systems that produce accurate outputs. Making qubits (the building blocks of quantum computing) uniform and stable is one such obstacle.



Qubits are tremendously fragile: Any noise or unintended observation of them can cause data loss. This fragility requires them to operate at about 20 millikelvin - 250 times colder than deep space. This extreme operating environment makes the packaging of qubits key to their performance and function. Intel's Components Research Group (CR) in Oregon and Assembly Test and Technology Development (ATTD) teams in Arizona are pushing the limits of chip design and packaging technology to address quantum computing's unique challenges.

About the size of a quarter (in a package about the size of a half-dollar coin), the new 17-qubit test chip's improved design features include:
  • New architecture allowing improved reliability, thermal performance and reduced radio frequency (RF) interference between qubits.
  • A scalable interconnect scheme that allows for 10 to 100 times more signals into and out of the chip as compared to wirebonded chips.
  • Advanced processes, materials and designs that enable Intel's packaging to scale for quantum integrated circuits, which are much larger than conventional silicon chips.
"Our quantum research has progressed to the point where our partner QuTech is simulating quantum algorithm workloads, and Intel is fabricating new qubit test chips on a regular basis in our leading-edge manufacturing facilities," said Dr. Michael Mayberry, corporate vice president and managing director of Intel Labs. "Intel's expertise in fabrication, control electronics and architecture sets us apart and will serve us well as we venture into new computing paradigms, from neuromorphic to quantum computing."

Intel's collaborative relationship with QuTech to accelerate advancements in quantum computing began in 2015. Since that time, the collaboration has achieved many milestones - from demonstrating key circuit blocks for an integrated cryogenic-CMOS control system to developing a spin qubit fabrication flow on Intel's 300mm process technology and developing this unique packaging solution for superconducting qubits. Through this partnership, the time from design and fabrication to test has been greatly accelerated.

"With this test chip, we'll focus on connecting, controlling and measuring multiple, entangled qubits towards an error correction scheme and a logical qubit," said professor Leo DiCarlo of QuTech. "This work will allow us to uncover new insights in quantum computing that will shape the next stage of development."


Advancing the Quantum Computing System
Intel and QuTech's work in quantum computing goes beyond the development and testing of superconducting qubit devices. The collaboration spans the entire quantum system - or "stack" - from qubit devices to the hardware and software architecture required to control these devices as well as quantum applications. All of these elements are essential to advancing quantum computing from research to reality.

Also, unlike others, Intel is investigating multiple qubit types. These include the superconducting qubits incorporated into this newest test chip, and an alternative type called spin qubits in silicon. These spin qubits resemble a single electron transistor similar in many ways to conventional transistors and potentially able to be manufactured with comparable processes.

While quantum computers promise greater efficiency and performance to handle certain problems, they won't replace the need for conventional computing or other emerging technologies like neuromorphic computing. We'll need the technical advances that Moore's law delivers in order to invent and scale these emerging technologies.

Intel is investing not only to invent new ways of computing, but also to advance the foundation of Moore's Law, which makes this future possible.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!
Supporter
Joined
Mar 26, 2014
Messages
9,665 (2.46/day)
Location
Washington, USA
System Name Veral
Processor 7800x3D
Motherboard x670e Asus Crosshair Hero
Cooling Corsair H150i RGB Elite
Memory 2x24 Klevv Cras V RGB
Video Card(s) Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx, 2x AOC 2425W, AOC I1601FWUX
Case Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s) Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Corsair Nightsword
Keyboard Corsair K55
VR HMD HP Reverb G2
Software Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores PEBCAK
Makes one wonder how these things would become a household item with that extreme cooling needed.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
Makes one wonder how these things would become a household item with that extreme cooling needed.

We'll find a way eventually. I mean, just remember the first "supercomputers" that were the size of a large room. And now every smartphone has 500x the compute power of those and we carry them in our pockets. Someone saying we'd carry all that power in our pocket was something unthinkable back then. And same goes for this stuff. It's unthinkable how we'd ever get these into our homes and I'm pretty sure in 50 years time, quantum computers will become a possibility for home usage. I'm not expecting them go the transition of room sized computers to smartphones, but it'll happen. I mean, quantum computers harness immense compute power, but only for certain things. For others, good old standard processors are still faster and more convenient.
 

Toothless

Tech, Games, and TPU!
Supporter
Joined
Mar 26, 2014
Messages
9,665 (2.46/day)
Location
Washington, USA
System Name Veral
Processor 7800x3D
Motherboard x670e Asus Crosshair Hero
Cooling Corsair H150i RGB Elite
Memory 2x24 Klevv Cras V RGB
Video Card(s) Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx, 2x AOC 2425W, AOC I1601FWUX
Case Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s) Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Corsair Nightsword
Keyboard Corsair K55
VR HMD HP Reverb G2
Software Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores PEBCAK
We'll find a way eventually. I mean, just remember the first "supercomputers" that were the size of a large room. And now every smartphone has 500x the compute power of those and we carry them in our pockets. Someone saying we'd carry all that power in our pocket was something unthinkable back then. And same goes for this stuff. It's unthinkable how we'd ever get these into our homes and I'm pretty sure in 50 years time, quantum computers will become a possibility for home usage. I'm not expecting them go the transition of room sized computers to smartphones, but it'll happen. I mean, quantum computers harness immense compute power, but only for certain things. For others, good old standard processors are still faster and more convenient.
A quantum chip made for WCG would be pretty cool.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
That's where quantum computers are actually the best. At least from knowing Rosetta@home, but WCG is basically the same thing. For normal CPU's it's a brute force computing, for quantum computers, it's "going with the flow". It doesn't brute try every possibility, it "naturally" goes into the right direction as it computes data. I just realized how hard it is to explain quantum computers lol XD
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
19,689 (2.86/day)
Location
w
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Plantronics 5220, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Dell SK3205
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
We'll find a way eventually. I mean, just remember the first "supercomputers" that were the size of a large room. And now every smartphone has 500x the compute power of those and we carry them in our pockets. Someone saying we'd carry all that power in our pocket was something unthinkable back then. And same goes for this stuff. It's unthinkable how we'd ever get these into our homes and I'm pretty sure in 50 years time, quantum computers will become a possibility for home usage. I'm not expecting them go the transition of room sized computers to smartphones, but it'll happen. I mean, quantum computers harness immense compute power, but only for certain things. For others, good old standard processors are still faster and more convenient.

Cooling is a different matter though. 20 millikelvin is -273.13C, just 0.2C from absolute zero. We have to get around that if they ever are to be household items.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2016
Messages
3,370 (1.09/day)
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard ASRock X670E Taichi
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 4090 Trio
Storage P5800X 1.6TB 4x 15.36TB Micron 9300 Pro 4x WD Black 8TB M.2
Display(s) Acer Predator XB3 27" 240 Hz
Case Thermaltake Core X9
Audio Device(s) JDS Element IV, DCA Aeon II
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Titanium 850w
Mouse PMM P-305
Keyboard Wooting HE60
VR HMD Valve Index
Software Win 10
We'll find a way eventually. I mean, just remember the first "supercomputers" that were the size of a large room. And now every smartphone has 500x the compute power of those and we carry them in our pockets. Someone saying we'd carry all that power in our pocket was something unthinkable back then. And same goes for this stuff. It's unthinkable how we'd ever get these into our homes and I'm pretty sure in 50 years time, quantum computers will become a possibility for home usage. I'm not expecting them go the transition of room sized computers to smartphones, but it'll happen. I mean, quantum computers harness immense compute power, but only for certain things. For others, good old standard processors are still faster and more convenient.

It's not really a "we'll find a way" sort of thing. Cooling something to that required temperature requires a massive amount of energy. It's not as simple as replacing vacuum tubes. Unfortunately this isn't overwatch were Mei can just invent an ice gun, we have been looking for ways to cool things better for a long time and especially since cold fusion has been around. Apparently if we solve qbits we also solve nearly every other problem the human race has.
 
Joined
Mar 24, 2017
Messages
123 (0.04/day)
Location
Italy
It's not really a "we'll find a way" sort of thing. Cooling something to that required temperature requires a massive amount of energy. It's not as simple as replacing vacuum tubes. Unfortunately this isn't overwatch were Mei can just invent an ice gun, we have been looking for ways to cool things better for a long time and especially since cold fusion has been around. Apparently if we solve qbits we also solve nearly every other problem the human race has.

Yeah, but the process here is different.
they cool down the qbits to have the most possible stable environment around them. being Interaction between particles destructive from the perspective of information, you need to be sure things are as still as possible.
That said, advancement in insulation materials and quantum error prediction will eventually bring the need for cooling down to acceptable levels. Those advancement will be none the less driven by the use of Quantum Computing Algorithms in chemistry and physics.
That said, I'm not really sure what usage a quantum computer has in a houshold aside from a chip that secures transactions and communications between endpoints. We'll see what will it be.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
And yet so did rooms filled with vacuum tubes. They required tons of power, were clumsy and hard to maintain. And here we are. We are doing same thing faster and at smaller size because we're using different means to achieve that (transistors vs vacuum tubes). Who says the current use of quantum states is the best implementation? Maybe what we have now is the equivalent of vacuum tubes of the past and we'll find a way better method of controlling electrons than with brute cooling force. Saying that's not possibility would be an insane statement, discarding hundreds and thousands of years of our scientific, technical, chemical and mechanical breakthroughs.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,847 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
Cooling is a different matter though. 20 millikelvin is -273.13C, just 0.2C from absolute zero. We have to get around that if they ever are to be household items.
First computers weren't using transistors from the beginning. Maybe these don't need to stay at 20 mK forever either?

Or maybe we build a bunch of those, place them in special facilities and only tap into their computing power the way we tap into the cloud today?
 
Joined
Dec 20, 2016
Messages
107 (0.04/day)
Location
Italy
System Name Frankenstin 2.0, Alienware X17 R2
Processor Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4400mhz, 1,248v fixed
Motherboard Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Cooling Swiftech Apogee drive 2 + XSPC x360 + generic GPU Waterblock
Memory 32Gb G.skill 3200 cl16
Video Card(s) Powercolor RX Vega 56, Custom watercooling - @ 64 mod
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVME
Display(s) Samsung LC27JG500
Case Thermaltake Core G3
Audio Device(s) Integrated + Denon AVR 2800
Power Supply Enermax Revolution SFX 650w
Mouse Trust GXT 152
Keyboard Logitech G413
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Makes one wonder how these things would become a household item with that extreme cooling needed.
Do you think quantum processors will be useful in normal household applications? because from what I learnt these calculators find their usefulness in scientific research. I mean, for normal computation a common chip does everything needed and even more. they are really specific, not general purpose
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
19,689 (2.86/day)
Location
w
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Plantronics 5220, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Dell SK3205
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
First computers weren't using transistors from the beginning. Maybe these don't need to stay at 20 mK forever either?

Manipulating qubits reliably in room temperature is a very, very big hurdle, but yes.
Or maybe we build a bunch of those, place them in special facilities and only tap into their computing power the way we tap into the cloud today?

That's the way I've always seen it. Quantum computers aren't better in every area, and not all tasks are suitable for them, on a basic conceptual level. For home circuitry other newfangled things will be used, I think. OTOH what they do better they do massively better, so when/if they finally come in a usable form I assume we'll adapt a lot of our dataflows to suit them.
 
Joined
Dec 15, 2006
Messages
1,703 (0.26/day)
Location
Oshkosh, WI
System Name ChoreBoy
Processor 8700k Delided
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Master
Cooling 420mm Custom Loop
Memory CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 2x8GB @ 3000Mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080 SC
Storage 1TB SX8200, 250GB 850 EVO, 250GB Barracuda
Display(s) Pixio PX329 and Dell E228WFP
Case Fractal R6
Audio Device(s) On-Board
Power Supply 1000w Corsair
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores A million on everything....
Maybe I'm living under a rock or something, but I've yet to see any of these quantum computers actually "doing" anything. Anybody have a link?
 
Joined
Oct 15, 2010
Messages
208 (0.04/day)
There is always a way to circumvent the lawz of physics.
Nature and biology has tought us that.

For instance oil doesnt disolve in water, but biology has a way to disolve oil in water.

Imagine someone comes to you, and asks you to build a computer, where the power delivery system also cools the Computer. You would say, you are completly insane, that is IMPOSSIBLE. There is no way the power cables can cool the processor, they themselves get hot.
Well gues what, nature has allready done it, Blood is a liquid that provides energy and cooling in the same package. Blood provides energy, blood cools the System. Isn't that exactly what i have asked you to Imagine in the first place ? It is but totally different aproach to the matter is required to achieve what i have as you.

Same will be with Quantum Computers also. A tottally new aproach is required to solve the cooling Problem, maybe some advances and new knowledge in Quantum physics that makes cooling obsolete.

Nobody every imagined that an object heavier than air can fly, yet that is something trivial today, we can fly objects which weigh tens if not hundred of tonnes.

Speed of light cannot be surpassed, yet there is even a way to circumvent the unsurpassable speed of light to move between distance Point of space by shifting the ship in a nonspace /nontime Dimension, and exit it Trillion of light years away from the entry Point, in just couple of miliseconds worth of time. How do you imagine there are millions of space faring civilization in our galaxy alone ? If all of them were to say, ist imposible to travel faster than light, they would have all been limited to their home solar System.

Nobody ever imagined 100 years ago we could communicate in real time between continents, yet every one can do it today using cell phones

In a similar manner we believe no communication can ocur faster than the Speed of light. But even this can be circumvented, as a matter of fact distance doesnt matter in the sligthest when using the said method, it can be 10 light years, or 10^600 light years distance - which is more than the radius of our universe which has a radius of 2.4x10^64Ly. Even though Speed of light cannot be surpassed, there is a way, and even if you may believe it or not, it is biological in nature.

Once incredible fact to realize is that even if you were to move at the Speed of light, you would not have enough time the whole life of the universe to cover ist radius. Our universe is 46.000 Billion years old, and will only exist for 155500 Billion of years after which it will implode.

Given enough knowledge, every obstacle can be surpassed. Regardless of how impossible it may seem. Make no mistake about that. And in regard to this can be said, that really there is no such Thing as impossible, but only inssuficient knowledge.

Shit: I realized am couple of years to soon with my posting, we still havent discovered FTL travel and communication, but i will leave the info non the less, as an exercise in thought.
 
Last edited:

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,847 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
Joined
Mar 24, 2017
Messages
123 (0.04/day)
Location
Italy
There is always a way to circumvent the lawz of physics.
Nature and biology has tought us that.

For instance oil doesnt disolve in water, but biology has a way to disolve oil in water.

Imagine someone comes to you, and asks you to build a computer, where the power delivery system also cools the Computer. You would say, you are completly insane, that is IMPOSSIBLE. There is no way the power cables can cool the processor, they themselves get hot.
Well gues what, nature has allready done it, Blood is a liquid that provides energy and cooling in the same package. Blood provides energy, blood cools the System. Isn't that exactly what i have asked you to Imagine in the first place ? It is but totally different aproach to the matter is required to achieve what i have as you.

Same will be with Quantum Computers also. A tottally new aproach is required to solve the cooling Problem, maybe some advances and new knowledge in Quantum physics that makes cooling obsolete.

Nobody every imagined that an object heavier than air can fly, yet that is something trivial today, we can fly objects which weigh tens if not hundred of tonnes.

Speed of light cannot be surpassed, yet there is even a way to circumvent the unsurpassable speed of light to move between distance Point of space by shifting the ship in a nonspace /nontime Dimension, and exit it Trillion of light years away from the entry Point, in just couple of miliseconds worth of time. How do you imagine there are millions of space faring civilization in our galaxy alone ? If all of them were to say, ist imposible to travel faster than light, they would have all been limited to their home solar System.

Nobody ever imagined 100 years ago we could communicate in real time between continents, yet every one can do it today using cell phones

In a similar manner we believe no communication can ocur faster than the Speed of light. But even this can be circumvented, as a matter of fact distance doesnt matter in the sligthest when using the said method, it can be 10 light years, or 10^600 light years distance - which is more than the radius of our universe which has a radius of 2.4x10^64Ly. Even though Speed of light cannot be surpassed, there is a way, and even if you may believe it or not, it is biological in nature.

Once incredible fact to realize is that even if you were to move at the Speed of light, you would not have enough time the whole life of the universe to cover ist radius. Our universe is 46.000 Billion years old, and will only exist for 155500 Billion of years after which it will implode.

Given enough knowledge, every obstacle can be surpassed. Regardless of how impossible it may seem. Make no mistake about that. And in regard to this can be said, that really there is no such Thing as impossible, but only inssuficient knowledge.

Shit: I realized am couple of years to soon with my posting, we still havent discovered FTL travel and communication, but i will leave the info non the less, as an exercise in thought.

Dude, I am truly flattened by the amount of inconsistency with modern literature and basic fact checking your post has. This, or you are a not so subtle troll.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
9,521 (3.27/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case Phanteks NV7
Power Supply GPS-750C
Manipulating qubits reliably in room temperature is a very, very big hurdle, but yes.

More like impossible actually. It's unlikely that these things will ever operate outside controlled environments.

And temperature it's not even the only concern , these things also need an insane amount of insulation against electrical noise for the connections that carry the analogue signals.
 
Last edited:

FordGT90Concept

"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Joined
Oct 13, 2008
Messages
26,259 (4.43/day)
Location
IA, USA
System Name BY-2021
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile)
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling Scythe Mugen (rev 5)
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-3200 32 GiB
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT
Storage Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse Nixeus REVEL-X
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
Intel is way behind D-Wave (by like 2000 qubits) but I'm at least glad D-Wave has some competition now. D-Wave Systems run at 0.015 K; Intel's is substantially warmer.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,847 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
More like impossible actually. It's unlikely that these things will ever operate outside controlled environments.

And temperature it's not even the only concern , these things also need an insane amount of insulation against electrical noise for connections that carry the analogue signals.
Flight was impossible for millennia ;)
But yes, this may be "a tad" harder than that.

Intel is way behind D-Wave (by like 2000 qubits) but I'm at least glad D-Wave has some competition now. D-Wave Systems run at 0.015 K; Intel's is substantially warmer.

Well, if you know where qubits are (on the chip), maybe you can't reliably tell how many are there. (Not really, but I couldn't resist.)
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 8, 2017
Messages
9,521 (3.27/day)
System Name Good enough
Processor AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling 2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory 32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage 1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s) LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case Phanteks NV7
Power Supply GPS-750C
Flight was impossible for millennia ;)

Except flight wasn't about dealing with the fundamental properties of matter. Physics do have their limits , there are things that are in fact impossible/unfeasible and no matter the technological advancement they will remain that way.

But yes, this may be a tad harder than that.

Flight was hard , this though it's much more than that.
 
Joined
Dec 20, 2016
Messages
107 (0.04/day)
Location
Italy
System Name Frankenstin 2.0, Alienware X17 R2
Processor Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4400mhz, 1,248v fixed
Motherboard Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Cooling Swiftech Apogee drive 2 + XSPC x360 + generic GPU Waterblock
Memory 32Gb G.skill 3200 cl16
Video Card(s) Powercolor RX Vega 56, Custom watercooling - @ 64 mod
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVME
Display(s) Samsung LC27JG500
Case Thermaltake Core G3
Audio Device(s) Integrated + Denon AVR 2800
Power Supply Enermax Revolution SFX 650w
Mouse Trust GXT 152
Keyboard Logitech G413
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
flight is create a depression under a surface. deliver a qbit is to isolate a qbit from environmental energy that interacts with it, destroying the data content and rendering it useless.
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
19,689 (2.86/day)
Location
w
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston KC3000 1TB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Plantronics 5220, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Dell SK3205
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
Intel is way behind D-Wave (by like 2000 qubits) but I'm at least glad D-Wave has some competition now. D-Wave Systems run at 0.015 K; Intel's is substantially warmer.

Ahh, and here we have the meaty discussion of "what is a quantum computer anyway?" I believe D-Wave and Intel approach the topic from vastly different directions.
 

FordGT90Concept

"I go fast!1!11!1!"
Joined
Oct 13, 2008
Messages
26,259 (4.43/day)
Location
IA, USA
System Name BY-2021
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (65w eco profile)
Motherboard MSI B550 Gaming Plus
Cooling Scythe Mugen (rev 5)
Memory 2 x Kingston HyperX DDR4-3200 32 GiB
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT
Storage Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM
Display(s) Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI)
Case Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 850w
Mouse Nixeus REVEL-X
Keyboard Tesoro Excalibur
Software Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Faster than the tortoise; slower than the hare.
A qubit is very well defined, like a bit. A bit is true or false while a qubit is true, false, or both. They may take different approaches to creating a quantum processor but a qubit is a qubit. Intel could have a vastly higher cycle rate than D-Wave does but, at this point, I doubt it.
 

bug

Joined
May 22, 2015
Messages
13,847 (3.95/day)
Processor Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard Asus H670 TUF
Cooling Arctic Freezer 34
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 1060 SC
Storage 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s) Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w
Case Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s) Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard G.Skill KM780R
Software Arch Linux + Win10
A qubit is very well defined, like a bit. A bit is true or false while a qubit is true, false, or both. They may take different approaches to creating a quantum processor but a qubit is a qubit. Intel could have a vastly higher cycle rate than D-Wave does but, at this point, I doubt it.
By the same logic, a nm is nm. Except when Samsung or TSMC measures it ;)
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
245 (0.09/day)
Location
behind you
Processor Threadripper 1950X
Motherboard ASRock X399 Professional Gaming
Cooling IceGiant ProSiphon Elite
Memory 48GB DDR4 2934MHz
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080
Storage 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe, 1TB Samsung 980 NVMe, 1TB Inland NVMe, 2TB Western Digital HDD
Display(s) 2x 4K60
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M (1000W)
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw Wireless
Keyboard Corsair K70 MK.2
VR HMD HTC Vive Pro
Software Windows 10, QubesOS
On the subject of cooling there are already devices called cryocoolers that are the size of a small thermos and can reach cryogenic temperatures.
 
Top