Intel Launches its Blazing-Fast Optane SSD 900P SSD

[TheGuruStud]

So... still priceless?

Also, links to Intel's page return 404.

Edit: Nevermind, it's about $500 for the 480GB drive. With stellar random reads at low queue depths and horrible power draw even at idle.

So, what you're saying is that I should just raid 0 some samsungs.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Anandtech has a review now. https://www.anandtech.com/show/11953/the-intel-optane-ssd-900p-review

Sorry man, I trust Anand's Intel product reviews as much as I trust the ice cubes not to melt into a glass of boiled water... Common!

 

[StrayKAT]

Sorry man, I trust Anand's Intel product reviews as much as I trust the ice cubes not to melt into a glass of boiled water... Common!

What's wrong with them? I'm actually new to all tech sites. It was thorough at least, and didn't look like an ad.

 

[bonehead123]

It would seem that by the time y'all finish this debate, optane will be long since dead and surpassed by a far superior technology 2 or 3 times over....

Can't we all just get along and suffice it to say that everyone can believe what that wanna believe true, false, proven or unproven, confirmed or unconfirmed or whateva makes your boats float

 

[bug]

So, what you're saying is that I should just raid 0 some samsungs.

That was useless even before Optane. Doesn't improve 4k random reads, only sequential speeds. And you rarely see those, unless you frequently move really large files around (i.e. you may need that at work, but rarely for home use).

 

[TheGuruStud]

That was useless even before Optane. Doesn't improve 4k random reads, only sequential speeds. And you rarely see those, unless you frequently move really large files around (i.e. you may need that at work, but rarely for home use).

I don't give a dead moose's last shit about random read for tiny files. I open crap that's either written together or is large (many GBs). Sequential read is meh better and random/sequential write (another biggy for me) is really a joke for the price. Writing is where I'm going to notice lag. None of it is work related.

You bet your shaved ass that I'm buying two 960 Pros over this while getting double the storage and blistering performance where needed. I don't use a stop watch for boot.

 

[bug]

I don't give a dead moose's last shit about random read for tiny files.

You also don't seem to know how disk reads work, but whatever.
I never said you shouldn't raid SSDs together, I said it's not a good idea in general. You, as an individual, are free to do whatever you want. Just like everybody else.

 

[Tomorrow]

Prices are ridiculous in EU right now and i don't know why. 280GB model costs nearly 600€ and 480GB model costs over 1000€.
Link: https://geizhals.eu/?fs=optane+900p&in=

"normal" prices based on US prices should be ~400€ for 280GB model and ~800€ for 480GB model.

 

[newtekie1]

and it's a little annoying to be told it's not.

When did I ever say it wasn't working well? I'm arguing the part where you said it makes defragging faster, which it clearly doesn't.

But we don't live our computer lives defragging hard drives. I've used Optane, it works, and it works well. My only point is that Optane caching is not a new feature, the only thing new is the Optane drive itself, but the caching software it uses has been around for years.

That all said, it appears 32GB trim takes as long as my 256 and 512 SSDs. They're all that fast.

Trim is a fast command. All it does is go through and wipe any free space that still has data in it. And since since trim has become a pretty much automatic thing now, when you run the trim command through the Optimization tool in Windows, it finishes almost instantly since it is really only deleting what has been marked free in the last few minutes.

 

[bug]

Prices are ridiculous in EU right now and i don't know why. 280GB model costs nearly 600€ and 480GB model costs over 1000€.
Link: https://geizhals.eu/?fs=optane+900p&in=

"normal" prices based on US prices should be ~400€ for 280GB model and ~800€ for 480GB model.

True, these must be the first products with a markup around launch time
Seriously now, these don't even seem to be available yet (amazon.de doesn't have them, I doubt smaller shops do), the prices are there only for fools that pre-order.

 

[StrayKAT]

When did I ever say it wasn't working well? I'm arguing the part where you said it makes defragging faster, which it clearly doesn't.

But we don't live our computer lives defragging hard drives. I've used Optane, it works, and it works well. My only point is that Optane caching is not a new feature, the only thing new is the Optane drive itself, but the caching software it uses has been around for years.



Trim is a fast command. All it does is go through and wipe any free space that still has data in it. And since since trim has become a pretty much automatic thing now, when you run the trim command through the Optimization tool in Windows, it finishes almost instantly since it is really only deleting what has been marked free in the last few minutes.

That sucks. But like I said, I thought this was just a perk. The rest I'm happy with. I guess I'll have to disable Optane to get a real defrag. Super tedious, as I plan on getting a 10-12tb drive soon.

 

[StrayKAT]

Anyone know why there isn't a U.2 version that is 480GB? Seems like only the PCIe card is.

 

[bug]

Anyone know why there isn't a U.2 version that is 480GB? Seems like only the PCIe card is.

Nope. Not even Anandtech knows more than "Higher capacities may be added later, but Intel isn't promising anything yet."

 

[StrayKAT]

Nope. Not even Anandtech knows more than "Higher capacities may be added later, but Intel isn't promising anything yet."

Just wondered if it was a power issue or something (forgive my ignorance). I wouldn't mind using U.2.. I've got two slots. There isn't anything reasonable on the market though.

 

[bug]

Just wondered if it was a power issue or something (forgive my ignorance). I wouldn't mind using U.2.. I've got two slots. There isn't anything reasonable on the market though.

Specified power profile is the same for both drives (again, as listed by Anandtech), so it must be something else. You'll have to forgive my ignorance, too, this is both new and spoonfed to us all.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Can we expect a TPU review of this?

 

[StrayKAT]

Everyone seemed to snatch these up already.

In addition to speed, these are starting to look attractive to me because of enterprise level endurance (petabytes). I don't think Optane has the same bottleneck on a filled up drive either. I'll put up with 500GB for this.

Here's hoping for slightly cheaper/slightly larger U.2 versions by next year.

 

[HopelesslyFaithful]

Everyone seemed to snatch these up already.

In addition to speed, these are starting to look attractive to me because of enterprise level endurance (petabytes). I don't think Optane has the same bottleneck on a filled up drive either. I'll put up with 500GB for this.

Here's hoping for slightly cheaper/slightly larger U.2 versions by next year.

correct optane you can max the drive and its still golden. I max my 950PRO because the reduction in speed isnt anything like Sandisk Extreme Pro or 850 PRO. It maxed out is still better than the best SATAs so i dont sweat it.

Yea I am waiting for maybe 1TB for 1000? If we get some good competition. I also want a better controler because the controller holds it back. Maybe PCIe4.0 version well at that point we might get RAM version which will be 100 times faster so....yea

Reviewers need to also start showing 99.9% because 99% for these things dont really show much. I would hope 1% of accesses are not far from the best. 99.9% and 99.99% is where you will see Optane crush other tech.

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Stora...-Enterprise-3D-XPoint/High-Resolution-Quality

also same with mixed work loads on this is amazing!
https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2017-10-27/c-rs.png

 

[StrayKAT]

The u.2 showed up again on newegg. I couldn't resist. I'll have to rethink my drive setup again with this as a boot drive (280g).