Intel CEO Brian Krzanich Resigns - For Having Sex With Colleague

[cadaveca]

To be fair to the rest of the board, he did drop the ball multiple times. Otherwise how can you explain a 3 year delay to 10nm from the earliest roadmaps, there's also nothing to counter Zen v2 atm.

Um, delaying a launch means more return on investment of the stuff that is in place while the new is delayed... it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing from a business perspective. Intel still ahs top-performing products, regardless of technology behind them..technology that Intel developed and paid for, whose cost becomes less every day they use it.

But OK, let's jstu say that we need MROE stuff, because we aren't happy with what we got now... that sounds more like your personal perspective leaking through.

 

[lexluthermiester]

He's the flipping CEO, potential for favoritism is way too high to let something like this slide.

While that is a good point, it's still not out of the question for many companies.

 

[Fluffmeister]

It is strange, but the CEO of Merica is also a nutter, he'll grab a pussy, and cage a child at his convenience.

 

[Bones]

Speaking of such, there's another that goes by the nickname "Bill" that the same could be said except he did such crap while in office, not before - And signed into law the ways things are being done NOW concerning the cages.

BTW, how is this relevant to the topic?
It's not.... Completely that is. Business is one thing, politics is another.

 

[Slizzo]

To be clear, I am not contesting what the underlying motivation for him being forced to resign was. I am just saying what the company policy is, and that it was used properly in order to oust him from the company.

Board was looking for a good way to make sure he left and that he'd never be able to come back or contest the move. They found one and used it.

 

[R0H1T]

False dichotomy. The foundry business is one thing, executive lack of leadership is completely another. You cannot blame the foundry thingy on the CEO. Afaik, this guy was at the head of the foundries.
[Mr. Sivakumar]

The buck stops at the CEO, I also mentioned multiple fronts like the tens of billion $ going inside a sinkhole whilst trying to make Atom mainstream in the mobile & tablet arena. The SSD market where Intel is less relevant today than it was in 2013/14 or HPC where Nvidia's just scoring wins after wins; servers or data center where AMD, ARM (Cavium) & Power(9) are making a big comeback. Should I go on or will you bring the division heads of each of these segments & blame Intel's failures on them?

Um, delaying a launch means more return on investment of the stuff that is in place while the new is delayed... it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing from a business perspective. Intel still ahs top-performing products, regardless of technology behind them..technology that Intel developed and paid for, whose cost becomes less every day they use it.

But OK, let's jstu say that we need MROE stuff, because we aren't happy with what we got now... that sounds more like your personal perspective leaking through.

That's arguably true but as AMD found out, with Athlon & Phenom, that delaying node shrinks can have a devastating effect in the silicon space. Also what about the ROI for 10nm, how long will that take or the next node shrink that'll be delayed even further?

Of course but that doesn't mean I'm 100% wrong, does it? Besides all of us have opinions & different perspective based on our personal experiences in life. Looking at it from a shareholder or board member PoV there's no doubt this is the worst time to be invested & vested into Intel, probably in the last decade & a half?

 

[mtcn77]

The buck stops at the CEO, I also mentioned multiple fronts like the tens of billion $ going inside a sinkhole whilst trying to make Atom mainstream in the mobile & tablet arena. The SSD market where Intel is less relevant today than it was in 2013/14 or HPC where Nvidia's just scoring wins after wins; servers or data center where AMD, ARM (Cavium) & Power(9) are making a big comeback. Should I go on or will you bring the division heads of each of these segments & blame Intel's failures on them?

They did make Atom mainstream, though(I don't know in what world you live in)? ARM is a subsidiary.

 

[R0H1T]

They did make Atom mainstream, though(I don't know in what world you live in)?

Really, mainstream in the mobile space, since when?
Think about what you're saying, they're nowhere in the segment where by some estimates Intel spent as much as 20~30 billion dollars on contra revenue + R&D into things such as Sofia.

ARM is a subsidiary.

Sorry what?

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

So that is what the executive assistants were for.
If he really loses about 45 million on compensation over this like Bloomberg wrote, one hell of expensive affair.

I would have though he gets shown the door after total underestimation of AMD, 10nm failures, disastrous mobile chips, aborted IoT/AR/VR and maker stuff etc. not this.

 

[Bones]

So that is what the executive assistants were for.
If he really loses about 45 million on compensation over this like Bloomberg wrote, one hell of expensive affair.

I would have though he gets shown the door after total underestimation of AMD, 10nm failures, disastrous mobile chips, aborted IoT/AR/VR and maker stuff etc. not this.

Logically speaking yes, you'd think those would be the reasons he got removed BUT if he was fired "Offically" for those reasons investors would have lost confidence and started leaving. This way it's not as harmful to their portfolio/stock price.
No matter what the reason, his leaving would affect the price of stocks of the company and they already knew it - But this way it's not about whether the company can compete since no investor wants to back a losing horse in the corporate world.

Obviously they used this reason to be rid of him while protecting the company's net worth on the stock market to the extent any expected loss over his termination would be minimized.
I'm sure the board members that made it happen could be blamed with alot of the crap themselves but they'd never admit it, this was a way of covering their own asses and letting the boss himself take the heat - And having more say or control for a certain few once he's out the door.

The first rule of management applies as said and they made it stick..... And made sure it would in the process.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I would have though he gets shown the door after total underestimation of AMD, 10nm failures, disastrous mobile chips, aborted IoT/AR/VR and maker stuff etc. not this.

You do realize in large corporations there are multiple departments of executives and brainiacs who worry about those things.

A chief executive sets a tone, a direction, and approves of the very biggest projects. Their job is certainly not in the weeds like all the examples you mentioned.

 

[mtcn77]

Really, mainstream in the mobile space, since when?
Think about what you're saying, they're nowhere in the segment where by some estimates Intel spent as much as 20~30 billion dollars on contra revenue + R&D into things such as Sofia.

Sorry what?

You don't have to sell me on the Intel anti-capitalist idea, I'm an AMD'er. However, still, ARM is no longer a privately owned company.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

You do realize in large corporations there are multiple departments of executives and brainiacs who worry about those things.

A chief executive sets a tone, a direction, and approves of the very biggest projects. Their job is certainly not in the weeds like all the examples you mentioned.

Can't tell if you are making jokes or serious. Are you saying CEO has no responsibility of when he is being arrogant completely getting caught pants down by literally the only competitor in CPU business even after all the warning signs or losing tens after tens of billions by approving those multiple failed project?

 

[mtcn77]

Can't tell if you are making jokes or serious. Are you saying CEO has no responsibility of when he is being arrogant completely getting caught pants down by literally the only competitor in CPU business even after all the warning signs or losing tens after tens of billions by approving those multiple failed project?

He is wrong for not gunning for extended reach of market segments. Take Broadwell for instance, it made great sense launching it as a single-threaded special version of the former Devil's Canyon. However that got swept under the rug when Intel hadn't taken AMD's multicore antics to heart.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Can't tell if you are making jokes or serious. Are you saying CEO has no responsibility of when he is being arrogant completely getting caught pants down by literally the only competitor in CPU business even after all the warning signs or losing tens after tens of billions by approving those multiple failed project?

I’m replying to someone who apparently has never been in an executive position, much less a chief executive. Otherwise you would know that those people do not analyze the enemy themselves. They have people whose job it is to do that, for instance and report their findings, much like the intelligence section of an army division would do for their senior commander. So it is hardly he that did any underestimating, if there was any.

People like to play armchair general....

 

[mtcn77]

I’m replying to someone who apparently has never been in an executive position, much less a chief executive. Otherwise you would know that those people do not analyze the enemy themselves. They have people whose job it is to do that, for instance and report their findings, much like the intelligence section of an army division would do for their senior commander.

Network wise, if the top layer had the law of the land nobody would exercise their initiative. Training for '>' is better in the long term than just the best(>) in neural networks at maintaining new alternatives.

 

[Totally]

A lot of people need to think think with their heads, and learn to piece together details. Yes the CEO and the unknown woman had sex. Fraternization is not a blanket umbrella, i.e. harmless flirting doesn't count, so the involvement was romantic or sexual in nature. Here's where the braindead defenders pop-up and rabble rabble, "It wasn't stated in the PR!" well the folks who wrote the PR chose their wording very carefully, and the key word here is consensual, you don't describe flirting as consensual.

 

[Caring1]

….. Here's where the braindead defenders pop-up and rabble rabble, "It wasn't stated in the PR!" well the folks who wrote the PR chose their wording very carefully, and the key word here is consensual, you don't describe flirting as consensual.

Yes you do, otherwise it's sexual harassment.

 

[lexluthermiester]

you don't describe flirting as consensual.

That is easily one of the more ludicrous things I've read in a while. Flirting is most definitely consensual. Flirting is a two-way street, it doesn't happen if it's not mutual participation because it requires back and forth interaction. Sorry mate, you're wrong on that one.

 

[Slizzo]

The SSD market where Intel is less relevant today than it was in 2013/14...

Sorry, had to take this snippet. Intel is absolutely as relevant today in SSD as they were back then. Optane is a big performer, and 3D Xpoint is a big player in that. While Intel's consumer SSDs may not be as relevant, Datacenter is taking off still.

But seriously, take another look at Optane. For it's use case (random IOs) nothing can come close.

 

[R0H1T]

Sorry, had to take this snippet. Intel is absolutely as relevant today in SSD as they were back then. Optane is a big performer, and 3D Xpoint is a big player in that. While Intel's consumer SSDs may not be as relevant, Datacenter is taking off still.

But seriously, take another look at Optane. For it's use case (random IOs) nothing can come close.

Except Optane isn't SSD i.e. traditional NAND, remember that editorial the other day about Optane? Also outside of enterprise & HPC (niche segments) Optane atm is irrelevant for 99% of the folks, most of them can easily get a 970 Evo or something & not notice a difference.

You don't have to sell me on the Intel anti-capitalist idea, I'm an AMD'er. However, still, ARM is no longer a privately owned company.

I'm not selling you anything, just challenging the notion that BK was a goodish CEO. He was anything but, IMO.

 

[Totally]

That is easily one of the more ludicrous I've read in a while. Flirting is most definitely consensual. Flirting is a two-way street, it doesn't happen if it's not mutual participation because it requires back and forth interaction. Sorry mate, you're wrong on that one.

No duh, that's what I'm saying. Consensual flirting it's fricking redundant. If it's not consensual it's called harassment. Sorry for not making myself clear.

 

[medi01]

it's the minimum bar standard

Humanity -- starts becoming real valid

Michelle Obama was Barrak Obama's boss, when they started dating.
About 15-20% of american couples met at work.

Descend from that high moral ground of yours, oh the one with great penis controlling skills.

 

[Slizzo]

Michelle Obama was Barrak Obama's boss, when they started dating.
About 15-20% of american couples met at work.

Descend from that high moral ground of yours, oh the one with great penis controlling skills.

Their work place probably didn't have a non-fraternization policy.
And, yes, true many Americans do meet at work. Still doesn't change the fact that INTEL has a non-fraternization policy, and their own CEO violated it.