AMD Beats NVIDIA's Performance in the Battlefield V Closed Alpha

Raevenlord · Jul 4, 2018

A report via PCGamesN points to some... interesting performance positioning when it comes to NVIDIA and AMD offerings. Battlefield V is being developed by DICE in collaboration with NVIDIA, but it seems there's some sand in the gears of performance improvements as of now. I say this because according to the report, AMD's RX 580 8 GB graphics card (the only red GPU to be tested) bests NVIDIA's GTX 1060 6GB... by quite a considerable margin at that.

The performance difference across both 1080p and 1440p scenarios (with Ultra settings) ranges in the 30% mark, and as has been usually the case, AMD's offerings are bettering NVIDIA's when a change of render - to DX12 - is made - AMD's cards teeter between consistency or worsening performance under DX 12, but NVIDIA's GTX 1060 consistently delivers worse performance levels. Perhaps we're witnessing some bits of AMD's old collaboration efforts with DICE? Still, It's too early to cry wolf right now - performance will only likely improve between now and the October 19th release date.

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mtcn77 · Jul 4, 2018

I bet - after signing the treaty of Versailles - you couldn't 'cry wolf' if Nvidia were ahead.

dj-electric · Jul 4, 2018

AMD beats nvidia at something, lets make a news piece. This is big, you guys

What? a patch and a driver update might iron it out? damn...

Vya Domus · Jul 4, 2018

Meh , because of the way Nvidia's hardware works they always need more driver work. Can't say this means much.

kastriot · Jul 4, 2018

I smell green jealousy

dj-electric · Jul 4, 2018

kastriot said:
I smell green jealousy

Literally thousands of people who own geforce cards are marching in the street for their pre-patched BFV closed alpha performance.

Raevenlord · Jul 4, 2018

dj-electric said:
AMD beats nvidia at something, lets make a news piece. This is big, you guys

What? a patch and a driver update might iron it out? damn...

AMD beats NVIDIA in a "The Way It's Meant to be Played"Game (worthy of news already) with a graphics card that usually delivers the same performance as its NVIDIA counterpart.

And your "damn..." revelation was mentioned at the end of the piece, so it's not even that we (I) tried to make it sound more than it is.

I mean, this isn't anywhere even remotely going after NVIDIA, I don't understand your attitude.

dj-electric · Jul 4, 2018

Raevenlord said:
I mean, this isn't anywhere even remotely going after NVIDIA, I don't understand your attitude.

Have you followed the previous BF games' performance progression?
Do you honestly think the situation will remain like this for the final game?

HD64G · Jul 4, 2018

+60-70% in minimum FPS for 580 vs 1060 is very much for a nVidia sponsored game. Crew2 shows good results for AMD vs nVidia also without any driver update from AMD side. Weird times we live in...

the54thvoid · Jul 4, 2018

Vya Domus said:
Meh , because of the way Nvidia's hardware works they always need more driver work. Can't say this means much.

Yup, that's the compute for you.

Once the game is closer to release, I'm quite sure Nvidia driver team will be working their usual magic.

Raevenlord · Jul 4, 2018

dj-electric said:
Have you followed the previous BF games' performance progression?
Do you honestly think the situation will remain like this for the final game?

"Perhaps we're witnessing some bits of AMD's old collaboration efforts with DICE? Still, It's too early to cry wolf right now - performance will only likely improve between now and the October 19th release date."

That's literally in the article.

Xzibit · Jul 4, 2018

Doesn't Nvidia tauts working with game devs from Day 1.

FB3 was one of the engines being shown off with RTX.

Blueberries · Jul 4, 2018

Damn... comparing a 120W card to a 185W card (that's more power draw than a GTX 1080). The bias is real.

Jism · Jul 4, 2018

Blueberries said:
Damn... comparing a 120W card to a 185W card (that's more power draw than a GTX 1080). The bias is real.

60 watts .. what are we talking about here. Like people waste more power these days leaving their system day in and day out ON.

Radeon cards have alot of potential and uncorked performance. This proberly does it the right way.

Nkd · Jul 4, 2018

Blueberries said:
Damn... comparing a 120W card to a 185W card (that's more power draw than a GTX 1080). The bias is real.

lol. as long as it delivers that much performance its delivering damn good performance per watt. At the current performance level your statement makes no damn sense for this game.

Fluffmeister · Jul 5, 2018

This is does seem to be clutching at straws in the extreme, but hey go AMD!

If the picture doesn't change in four months time.... when the game is actually out, then AMD can certainly pop open the champagne bottles.

Mistral · Jul 5, 2018

"AMD's RX 580 8 GB graphics card (the only red GPU to be tested) bests NVIDIA's GTX 1060 6GB "

That seems in line with how the cards perform. I'm sure though that nVidia will do something to "fix" it, it's a game in "collaboration with NVIDIA" after all.

Litzner · Jul 5, 2018

Is this that surprising? I thought it was always pretty common for AMD to beat Nvidia when it come to low level hardware pipelines like DX12 and Vulkan? We have just hardly seen any games built in DX12 or Vulkan.

AsRock · Jul 5, 2018

Until nVidia junk is added to the game, mean i wounder if it will on release

TheGuruStud · Jul 5, 2018

AsRock said:
Until nVidia junk is added to the game, mean i wounder if it will on release

Yeah, this is nothing gimpworks can't fix.

It'll be ballsy to kill AMD perf, since these numbers are out.

HTC · Jul 5, 2018

Mistral said:
"AMD's RX 580 8 GB graphics card (the only red GPU to be tested) bests NVIDIA's GTX 1060 6GB "

That seems in line with how the cards perform. I'm sure though that nVidia will do something to "fix" it, it's a game in "collaboration with NVIDIA" after all.

Simple: just have the publisher remove DX12 version and nVidia leads again.

They did similar with a game (don't recall it's name) that had DX10.1 which ran much better on AMD's cards but nVidia "managed" to get the game's publisher to remove DX10.1 in favor of the already supported DX10, which ofc ran much better on nVidia's cards.

FordGT90Concept · Jul 5, 2018

RX 580 8 GiB has significantly more compute resources than GTX 1060 6 GiB. This was inevitable to happen as optimizations are made for Polaris and not just in Battlefield. The RX 580 average comes out ahead of GTX 1060 at all resolutions now.

lewis007 · Jul 5, 2018

Well at least its good to know that my RX470 should be good enough for this title.

AsRock · Jul 5, 2018

TheGuruStud said:
Yeah, this is nothing gimpworks can't fix.

It'll be ballsy to kill AMD perf, since these numbers are out.

I was just having a dig into nVidia is all. for all we know nVidia might of not done any\many performance tweaks.

In fact the thread is pretty pointless when you think about it.

prnsforum · Jul 5, 2018

good news is only 1 game and still alpha

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