NVIDIA Announces Turing-based Quadro RTX 8000, Quadro RTX 6000 and Quadro RTX 5000

[Vya Domus]

Anyone else noticed the RTX 8000 & RTX 6000 have fewer CUDA & Tensor cores then the GV100

Because it's a smaller GPU compared to V100, guess that monstrous 800nm^2 was a bit too much even for Nvidia and TSMC.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Anyone else noticed the RTX 8000 & RTX 6000 have fewer CUDA & Tensor cores then the GV100

But higher fp32. They haven't specified clocks but they must be higher. They had to shave off some cuda and tensor for the inclusion of rt cores, otherwise that die would be friggin 1000mm2.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Still pretty big at 754mm2, put yes this thing even has big Volta Donald J Trumped.

 

[Xzibit]

Refined Volta with RT cores. Likely to see the same for the GTX cards, Titan V.

 

[kings]

But higher fp32. They haven't specified clocks but they must be higher. They had to shave off some cuda and tensor for the inclusion of rt cores, otherwise that die would be friggin 1000mm2.

One part clocks, but the Stream Processors seems more powerful too. At least, is what Nvidia is saying.

"Faster Simulation and Rasterization with New Turing Streaming Multiprocessor
Turing-based GPUs feature a new streaming multiprocessor (SM) architecture that adds an integer execution unit executing in parallel with the floating point datapath, and a new unified cache architecture with double the bandwidth of the previous generation.

Combined with new graphics technologies such as variable rate shading, the Turing SM achieves unprecedented levels of performance per core. With up to 4,608 CUDA cores, Turing supports up to 16 trillion floating point operations in parallel with 16 trillion integer operations per second."

 

[bug]

All this tech fluff is all nice and fancy, but what new releases of cards really turn me on are the new features available NOW and in ANY game. Like, for example, utilizing all these fancy Tensor cores to make next level post-process AA that's light on GPU but smooths edges better than crappy FXAA they give us in NV CP. Like, freaking at least give us option to switch between FXAA, MLAA and SMAA ffs. Just give us something new we can use now, not something we might hypothetically see being used in games in 5 years time...

Because you just got into hardware and you are totally unaware that any advancement is a chicken and egg problem at the beginning.

It's why Pascal was such boring release for me. Sure, it was fast, but other than that, it brought basically nothing new and exciting to the end user. New post process AA modes would be a nice start, just like it is that post process image thing they released some time ago to change game colors, sharpness, tone and so on. That's cool, but you need to use stupid NVIDIA Experience to have it which sucks. So, that's another problem thanks to archaic original NV CP. Anyway, I'm rambling again, give us more features for today so we can easier wait for the features of tomorrow... I usually buy new graphic cards because of these features even when I don't really have to buy new one totally out of curiosity, not for what I might use it in 5 years time, maybe.

For completeness, after whining Turing has hardware that's not put to good use yet, he goes on to slam Pascal because it doesn't have such hardware. Nicely done.

 

[Assimilator]

Those are pretty coolers. Nice and understated, no LEDs, just classy. I wish OEMs would take the hint instead of slapping OMGWTFBBQ massive coolers with bling on everything.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

The RTX 2080 will be either a 2944 core variant of RTX 5000 or a full 5000 with 3072 cores. Yes it will have tensors 352 to 384

 

[cucker tarlson]

The RTX 2080 will be either a 2944 core variant of RTX 5000 or a full 5000 with 3072 cores. Yes it will have tensors 352 to 384

Tensor cores are a give since both volta and turing has them, I'm thinking whether or not it will have rt cores.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

Tensor cores are a give since both volta and turing has them, I'm thinking whether or not it will have rt cores.

They will have rt cores the question is how many not if

 

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T
Hey will have rt cores the question is how many not if

As a general rule, no first-gen hardware has enough HP to put the tech they're introducing to good use. See DX12, tessellation and even PS2.0 and PS1.4 in the ancient times.

 

[jabbadap]

But higher fp32. They haven't specified clocks but they must be higher. They had to shave off some cuda and tensor for the inclusion of rt cores, otherwise that die would be friggin 1000mm2.

And probably nerfed FP64 compute too as they don't mention that at all. Just have a feeling that nvidia need to do a die shrink before we see Raytracing for gamers. Maybe they release Titan RTX from that behemoth of the chip and some smaller Geforce RTX xx80 parts from the RTX 5000(I presume it have smaller die due the 256bit bus). Rest of the Geforces are most probably GTX family and might be even Volta based.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

As a general rule, no first-gen hardware has enough HP to put the tech they're introducing to good use. See DX12, tessellation and even PS2.0 and PS1.4 in the ancient times.

True amd is also working on this ray tracing tech, they announced it with vega20 chip

 

[RH92]

But higher fp32. They haven't specified clocks but they must be higher.

Around 1,73Ghz according to Anandtech wich indeed is higher than the 1,45Ghz of GV100.

Considering the move from 14nm to GloFo's 12nm allowed AMD to gain around 300Mhz , im expecting TSMC's 12nm to give to NVIDIA around 500Mhz boost . I believe we will definitely see higher clocks with the gaming series .

 

[Midland Dog]

All this tech fluff is all nice and fancy, but what new releases of cards really turn me on are the new features available NOW and in ANY game. Like, for example, utilizing all these fancy Tensor cores to make next level post-process AA that's light on GPU but smooths edges better than crappy FXAA they give us in NV CP. Like, freaking at least give us option to switch between FXAA, MLAA and SMAA ffs. Just give us something new we can use now, not something we might hypothetically see being used in games in 5 years time...

It's why Pascal was such boring release for me. Sure, it was fast, but other than that, it brought basically nothing new and exciting to the end user. New post process AA modes would be a nice start, just like it is that post process image thing they released some time ago to change game colors, sharpness, tone and so on. That's cool, but you need to use stupid NVIDIA Experience to have it which sucks. So, that's another problem thanks to archaic original NV CP. Anyway, I'm rambling again, give us more features for today so we can easier wait for the features of tomorrow... I usually buy new graphic cards because of these features even when I don't really have to buy new one totally out of curiosity, not for what I might use it in 5 years time, maybe.

SMAA my friend, SMAA

Around 1,73Ghz according to Anandtech wich indeed is higher than the 1,45Ghz of GV100.

Considering the move from 14nm to GloFo's 12nm allowed AMD to gain around 300Mhz , im expecting TSMC's 12nm to give to NVIDIA around 500Mhz boost . I believe we will definitely see higher clocks with the gaming series .

2200mhz is my guess, golden samples of TSMCs 16nm, i am fortunate enough to be in that club (2177mhz gtx 1060), can do around there so i want to say average OC will be 2152 (taken from pascal boost table, they really do go up in weird increments; 2129, 2136, 2152, 2164, 2177, 2190) and golden could be 2250

 

[RH92]

2200mhz is my guess, golden samples of TSMCs 16nm, i am fortunate enough to be in that club (2177mhz gtx 1060), can do around there so i want to say average OC will be 2152 (taken from pascal boost table, they really do go up in weird increments; 2129, 2136, 2152, 2164, 2177, 2190) and golden could be 2250

Nah there are already 1080 golden samples hitting 2,2Ghz under liquid so if i had to guess considering what i mentioned previously my guess would be 2,3Ghz as an average with golden samples going as far as 2,45Ghz if not 2,5Ghz.

 

[jabbadap]

Around 1,73Ghz according to Anandtech wich indeed is higher than the 1,45Ghz of GV100.

Considering the move from 14nm to GloFo's 12nm allowed AMD to gain around 300Mhz , im expecting TSMC's 12nm to give to NVIDIA around 500Mhz boost . I believe we will definitely see higher clocks with the gaming series .

The problem is the die size, it will take too much juice to achieve that kind of boosts. If there's some sub 600mm² more close to 500mm² chip on the line-up, then sure 500MHz is reasonable expectation. But with 754mm² die size, I think the power required for that kind of clocks are too much to cool in sane ways.

 

[Midland Dog]

Nah there are already 1080 golden samples hitting 2,2Ghz under liquid so if i had to guess considering what i mentioned previously my guess would be 2,3Ghz as an average with golden samples going as far as 2,45Ghz if not 2,5Ghz.

remember die size has gone up significantly on GT102 tho, Titan V didnt hit the same clocks as pascal and it was 12nm, GT102 is only 60mm squared off of GV100

 

[RejZoR]

Because you just got into hardware and you are totally unaware that any advancement is a chicken and egg problem at the beginning.

For completeness, after whining Turing has hardware that's not put to good use yet, he goes on to slam Pascal because it doesn't have such hardware. Nicely done.

I literally said they should focus more on things we can use NOW instead of tons of features we might one day use. Maybe. I didn't say they should drop new tech for the future entirely, I just said they should focus on new exciting stuff we can use now a bit more.

As for the other part, lol, you could at least bother clicking my specs if anything. Surprise, surprise, I own the Pascal. Highest tier one in fact, if we exclude the Titan models. Last time I checked, GTX 1080Ti is a Pascal based card... Funniest smearing attempt I've seen in a while. Now I'm just waiting for some idiot to lash out and call me an AMD fanboy somehow because I didn't absolutely piss on Vega at every possible occasion...

 

[bug]

I literally said they should focus more on things we can use NOW instead of tons of features we might one day use. Maybe. I didn't say they should drop new tech for the future entirely, I just said they should focus on new exciting stuff we can use now a bit more.

Yes, I also can't figure out how they keep churning out hardware without checking with you first what they should focus on next.

As for the other part, lol, you could at least bother clicking my specs if anything. Surprise, surprise, I own the Pascal. Highest tier one in fact, if we exclude the Titan models. Last time I checked, GTX 1080Ti is a Pascal based card... Funniest smearing attempt I've seen in a while. Now I'm just waiting for some idiot to lash out and call me an AMD fanboy somehow because I didn't absolutely piss on Vega at every possible occasion...

Yes, we all know you own high-end Nvidia hardware because you can get it for cheap. We also know that never stopped you badmouthing them at all. But in this instance you were actually incoherent, that's all.

 

[RH92]

The problem is the die size, it will take too much juice to achieve that kind of boosts. If there's some sub 600mm² more close to 500mm² chip on the line-up, then sure 500MHz is reasonable expectation. But with 754mm² die size, I think the power required for that kind of clocks are too much to cool in sane ways.

remember die size has gone up significantly on GT102 tho, Titan V didnt hit the same clocks as pascal and it was 12nm, GT102 is only 60mm squared off of GV100

We are primarily talking about RTX 2080 here ( or whatever they name it ) and i believe it's safe to assume that GT/RT 104 is going to be nowhere near 754mm2 hence why those clocks are achievable. This being said yes obviously , Turing Titan and 2080Ti will clock lower if that's what you mean. Just for a reminder we don't know yet if that 754mm2 die is a GT/RT 102 , more likely than not it's an GT/RT 100 .

 

[ppn]

RT104 is Quadro RTX 5000 and soon to be RTX 2070/80 ~~500mm2, 754 mm2 cut by 1/3.

lol, 1080Ti is only 471mm2 and yet 2070/80 will carry less cuda and 256 bit bus 14 Gbps memory.

We are primarily talking about RTX 2080 here ( or whatever they name it ) and i believe it's safe to assume that GT/RT 104 is going to be nowhere near 754mm2 hence why those clocks are achievable. This being said yes obviously , Turing Titan and 2080Ti will clock lower if that's what you mean.

 

[RejZoR]

Yes, I also can't figure out how they keep churning out hardware without checking with you first what they should focus on next.


Yes, we all know you own high-end Nvidia hardware because you can get it for cheap. We also know that never stopped you badmouthing them at all. But in this instance you were actually incoherent, that's all.

Yeah, gotta love idiots who salivate over features on new cards that they won't be able to use anyway until they'll buy a new high end card in 2 years time with same feature set that will actually be used. But what do I know after observing the same thing for basically 2 decades year after year...

See, the second part is prime example of made up bullshit that is circulating around. Where did you get an idea I get anything cheaper lol? I bought it for 790€ just like anyone else at that time. Just like I do with ALL the hardware I own. I'm not paid or sponsored by anyone. I wish I were, but I spend my own money without any special treatment. As for badmouthing NVIDIA, they just recently got their shit together with their drivers not being total stinkers. After weeks and months of bitching over broken Adaptive and Fast V-Sync features, they finally fixed that nonsense. Thank F god. Still not sure if they fixed anything regarding DSR and 144Hz on the output when running 4K on a 1080p 144Hz screen. Was so annoying I stopped using DSR entirely because I can't play at 60Hz and the damn thing was insisting on it unless the game explicitly enforced 144Hz (which basically none except Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided). And when you pay 800€ for a graphic card, you're justifiably angry when shit doesn't work as it should. If you aren't, then you're a very uncritical consumer, the kind companies like the most, but also do the most damage to quality because companies become lazy and stop giving a F because you just gobble up anything they serve. Well, I'm loud and obnoxious because I never want to be like that.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Is there one post on TPU where you don't mention how expensive your gpu was, rejzor The last one has it mentioned twice,oh God,he's mad....

If 2080 is really 500mm2 due to tensor and RT cores, we are not getting GT102 on 2080Ti, Titan RTX only. How did you get that 500mm2 number anyway ppn ?

 

[RH92]

RT104 is Quadro RTX 5000 and soon to be RTX 2070/80 ~~500mm2, 754 mm2 cut by 1/3.
lol, 1080Ti is only 471mm2 and yet 2070/80 will carry less cuda and 256 bit bus 14 Gbps memory.

For your information RTX 5000 has 3702 cuda cores wich is 118 more cuda cores than 1080Ti !