NVIDIA GeForce RTX Series Prices Up To 71% Higher Than Previous Gen

bug · Aug 21, 2018

Prima.Vera said:
So they pulled another GTX 8800 series prices.
I guess some things never change...

Were you seriously expecting anything else? Do you know a case where somebody had a product head and shoulders above competition and then released something even better at reasonable prices?
These things have a huge die, that alone means expensive.

mobiuus · Aug 21, 2018

bug said:
These things have a huge die, that alone means expensive.

are u 4 REAL !!!??

iO · Aug 21, 2018

bug said:
Were you seriously expecting anything else? Do you know a case where somebody had a product head and shoulders above competition and then released something even better at reasonable prices?
These things have a huge die, that alone means expensive.

30-50 FPS @ 1080p with a 1250€ GPU in Shadow of the Tomb Raider doesnt really scream "head and shoulders above competition"...
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafi...ormance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/

bug · Aug 21, 2018

DarkStalker said:
are u 4 REAL !!!??

Very much so.

R0H1T · Aug 21, 2018

bug said:
Very much so.

So do you have numbers, as in how big is the difference, to account for >50% pricing inflation?

jormungand · Aug 21, 2018

Are they making the 10x series more price appealing so they can empty their stock??? Those prices are no joke is just a way to mock of their base buyers(gamers) wtf. Vote with your wallet guys.

bug · Aug 21, 2018

iO said:
30-50 FPS @ 1080p with a 1250€ GPU in Shadow of the Tomb Raider doesnt really scream "head and shoulders above competition"...
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafi...ormance-in-Shadow-of-the-Tomb-Raider-1263244/

No, but this:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/31.html
and this:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/32.html
do.

R0H1T said:
So do you have numbers, as in how big is the difference, to account for >50% pricing inflation?

TU102 is 754sq mm (source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13240/nvidia-gamescom-2018-keynote-live-blog).
GP102 is "merely" 471sq mm.
And the price does not increase linearly (unfortunately for everyone).

phill · Aug 21, 2018

Roll on cheap 1080 Ti's is all I will be saying.. That is all

John Naylor · Aug 21, 2018

US Inflation to July 2018 since ...

June 2016 (1070 = 5.00%
May 2016 (1080) = 5.00%
March 2017 (1080Ti ) = 3.00%

New tariffs on goods imported from China = 25%

Take the $379 price of the 1070 and add the 25% tariff = $473.75 x 1.05 = $497.44
Compared with the SEP cost of $499, it's an extra $1.56

Take the $599 price of the 1080 and add the 25% tariff = $748.75 x 1.05 = $786.19
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a freakin bargain at $699, $87 cheaper than I'd expect.

Take the $699 price of the 1080 Ti and add the 25% tariff = $899.96 x 1.03 = $926.96
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a leap at $999,but by no means shocking $72 more than we have a right to expect.

However, until we see the performance numbers, in no position to consider how warranted the increases are.

TheOne said:
NVIDIA pulling the MSRP vs FE pricing again , and changing the price scheme, now the x70 is the x80, the x80 is the x80 Ti, and the x80 Ti is the Titan. If I find a 2070 for the MSRP I might buy one, though $500 is still insane for a single piece of hardware intended only for gaming, but never going to pay more.

That started with the 70xx series. When they realized how much faster their cards were than the competition, they lsid the line down and the 780 matched the original leaked specs of the 770 .... the 780 design was placed on a shelf where it sat until th 290x came along.

bug said:
The frightening thing is, the 2060 could be pushing $400

The 2070 is $379 ... Only the "I must be the 1st guy on my block to have the new shiny thing" crowd buys FEs

mad1394 said:
Time to buy those radeon vega gpus boys. At least Vega pricing is close to MSRP nowadays

It's still not enough to entice any significant sales... but don't forget to factor in a) the price of the bigger PSU b) the extra case fan to move the heat out, and and c) the increased power costs over 3 years.

Somethingnew · Aug 21, 2018

John Naylor said:
Inflation to July 2018 since ...

June 2016 (1070 = 5.00%
May 2016 (1080) = 5.00%
March 2017 (1080Ti ) = 3.00%

Take the $379 price of the 1070 and add the 25% tariff = $473.75 x 1.05 = $497.44
Compared with the SEP cost of $499, it's an extra $1.56

Take the $599 price of the 1080 and add the 25% tariff = $748.75 x 1.05 = $786.19
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a freakin bargain at $699, $87 cheaper than I'd expect.

Take the $699 price of the 1080 Ti and add the 25% tariff = $899.96 x 1.03 = $926.96
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a leap at $999,but by no means shocking $72 more than we have a right to expect.

However, until we see the performance numbers, in no position to consider how warranted the increases are.

That started with the 70xx series. When they realized how much faster their cards were than the competition, they lsid the line down and the 780 matched the original leaked specs of the 770 .... the 780 design was placed on a shelf where it sat until th 290x came along.

The 2070 is $379 ... Only the "I must be the 1st guy on my block to have the new shiny thing" crowd buys FEs

It's still not enough to entice any significant sales... but don't forget to factor in a) the price of the bigger PSU b) the extra case fan to move the heat out, and and c) the increased power costs over 3 years.

Are you aware that these prices are also before taxes ? So why are adding 25 % tariff ? The same would be for rtx 2070 so it would be 499 $ plus 25 % tariff for example . So your point here is wrong , the rtx 2070 is 32 % more expensive than gtx 1070 before taxes .

Prince Valiant · Aug 21, 2018

John Naylor said:
The 2070 is $379 ... Only the "I must be the 1st guy on my block to have the new shiny thing" crowd buys FEs

You've seen the chart wrong or mistyped. SEP price for the 2070 is $500 and the FE is $600.

Xaled · Aug 21, 2018

John Naylor said:
US Inflation to July 2018 since ...

June 2016 (1070 = 5.00%
May 2016 (1080) = 5.00%
March 2017 (1080Ti ) = 3.00%

New tariffs on goods imported from China = 25%

Take the $379 price of the 1070 and add the 25% tariff = $473.75 x 1.05 = $497.44
Compared with the SEP cost of $499, it's an extra $1.56

Take the $599 price of the 1080 and add the 25% tariff = $748.75 x 1.05 = $786.19
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a freakin bargain at $699, $87 cheaper than I'd expect.

Take the $699 price of the 1080 Ti and add the 25% tariff = $899.96 x 1.03 = $926.96
Compared with the SEP cost of $699, it's a leap at $999,but by no means shocking $72 more than we have a right to expect.

However, until we see the performance numbers, in no position to consider how warranted the increases are.

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Except prices are not actually 499, 699 and 999. They will start from 599, 799 and 1199

So your whole math is useless

Somethingnew · Aug 21, 2018

Exactly , even if we would compare rtx 2070 to gtx 1070 sep prices which would be 499 $ , vs 379 $ , the price increase is big , and i doubt rtx 2070 would be near gtx 1080 ti performance level , since rtx is 2304 cores , and clock increase is negligible , it would probably in gtx 1080 level which already is at 449 $ , so after such long wait is in my opinion big dissapointement , but let's wait for reviews , but i doubt it will be even close to gtx 1080 ti in performance .

bug · Aug 21, 2018

Xaled said:
Except prices are not actually 499, 699 and 999. They will start from 599, 799 and 1199

So your whole math is useless

You still haven't figured out one set of prices is for Founder Edition cards? The fail is strong with you.

GoldenX · Aug 21, 2018

Funders or not, that sets the bar for the custom cards.

Xaled · Aug 21, 2018

bug said:
You still haven't figured out one set of prices is for Founder Edition cards? The fails is strong with you.

no, the newegg price of stock Asus 2080 ti is even more than that

those prices maybe valid for bundles only. but no cards are listed for such prices yet. i get the point of the FE now. increase the lowest price. The evil nvidia does nothing for good. all new so called techs, renovations, editions are just excuses for price increases.

bug · Aug 21, 2018

Well, no cards are released yet. There's always a surcharge for preorders.

Prince Valiant · Aug 21, 2018

A blower card for $1210 and it's out of stock :roll:

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Slizzo · Aug 21, 2018

phill said:
Roll on cheap 1080 Ti's is all I will be saying.. That is all

I doubt 1080Ti will be any cheaper for a while seeing as the cheapest a 2080Ti can be is $1k. I have my doubts that a 2304 CUDA core 2070 can beat a 3584 CUDA core 1080Ti in traditional workloads.

phill · Aug 21, 2018

I'm currently looking about for £500 1080 Ti's.. Mined or not, bit of a bargain

garrick · Aug 21, 2018

jessie james used a gun when he robbed pepole

Caring1 · Aug 21, 2018

garrick said:
jessie james used a gun when he robbed pepole

But snake oil salesmen just sold promises with smooth talking.

bug · Aug 21, 2018

garrick said:
jessie james used a gun when he robbed pepole

He also didn't give people a choice. What's your point?

Yes, these prices are through the roof. At the same time, they are likely justified. Can we all agree on this and close this thread?
Because 5 pages of whining the cards are too expensive... is just a deja-vu of pretty much every other high-end gaming card release.

Somethingnew · Aug 21, 2018

Are you really ok with that pricing ? I could understand small price hike . But these prices are just like robbery .

GoldenX · Aug 21, 2018

Man, so many Nvidia shills defending stupid pricing.

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