• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Microsoft at Gamescom 2018: Where's the Heart of Gaming After All?

Raevenlord

News Editor
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
3,755 (1.23/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name The Ryzening
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard MSI X570 MAG TOMAHAWK
Cooling Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO
Memory 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3733 (4x 8 GB)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 Ti
Storage Boot: Transcend MTE220S 2TB, Kintson A2000 1TB, Seagate Firewolf Pro 14 TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270UP (1440p 144 Hz IPS)
Case Lian Li O11DX Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) iFi Audio Zen DAC
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ 750 W
Mouse Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Keyboard Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Software Windows 10 x64
We stopped by Microsoft's booth at Gamescom 2018 in Koln, Germany, to see what the behemoth company was pushing for its Xbox family of products - and, of course, Windows 10. However, the company's presence lacked most of its heavy-hitters - Halo was absent, Gears of War was as well. In fact, Microsoft's presence at this years' Gamescom was limited to Forza Horizon 4 and Ori and the Will of the Wisps, when it comes to in-house exclusives. Though that McLaren does look great over there, doesn't it? Oh my.





PUBG made its way into the space as well, being a Microsoft console exclusive for the time being. Spyro served as padding, apparently, to occupy floor space (not being an exclusive in any way), as did Pro Evolution Soccer 2019, and there was a whole section dedicated to Mixer, Microsoft's gaming and streaming app. And let's not forget where Microsoft makes most of its Xbox hardware money - not on consoles, but on the myriad of options available for its controllers via the Xbox Design Lab.



All in all, it seems that Microsoft was only guaranteeing that it wasn't completely left out of Gamescom, but with most of its heavy-hitting franchises still in active development - such as Halo infinite and Gears of War 5 - it really was hard to justify their presence. But Crackdown 3's absence was again felt - it seems there's no end to that games' plight.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
6,881 (1.46/day)
Location
Florida
System Name natr0n-PC
Processor Ryzen 5950x-5600x | 9600k
Motherboard B450 AORUS M | Z390 UD
Cooling EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action | AIO
Memory Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) | Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage Various
Display(s) Pixio PX279 Prime
Case Thermaltake Level 20 VT | Black bench
Audio Device(s) LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W | EVGA 700 Gold
Software XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6
Forza feels like driving a giant refrigerator down set paths.

The xbox design lab is a joke because the analogs they use are so crap. Make something pretty only to know it will fail in no time.
 
Joined
May 11, 2016
Messages
261 (0.08/day)
I've been saying it this whole console gen for Microsoft, but whoever is leading the Xbox ship there is beyond clueless. They've taken a huge product in Xbox and through their own poor decision making have made it largely irrelevant. It's been an almost inconceivable lack of exclusives, combined with cross-play which made owning an XB1 unnecessary. No need to own one to play => no customers => devs going to other platforms => no exclusives, which has been the slow death spiral for XB1.

It's really been an amazing example of how smart, well-educated, top-tier managers can be so incredibly out of touch with their customer base that they make what they think are good decisions that actually destroy their own product far better than competitors can. Literally the only use for my XB1 right now is as a Netflix box, just to save some hours hours running Netflix on other hardware. My how the mighty have fallen...
 
Joined
Sep 7, 2017
Messages
3,244 (1.22/day)
System Name Grunt
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte x570 Gaming X
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A
Memory Corsair LPX 3600 4x8GB
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 6800 XT (reference)
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Display(s) Samsung CFG70, Samsung NU8000 TV
Case Corsair C70
Power Supply Corsair HX750
Software Win 10 Pro
I've been saying it this whole console gen for Microsoft, but whoever is leading the Xbox ship there is beyond clueless. They've taken a huge product in Xbox and through their own poor decision making have made it largely irrelevant. It's been an almost inconceivable lack of exclusives, combined with cross-play which made owning an XB1 unnecessary. No need to own one to play => no customers => devs going to other platforms => no exclusives, which has been the slow death spiral for XB1.

It's really been an amazing example of how smart, well-educated, top-tier managers can be so incredibly out of touch with their customer base that they make what they think are good decisions that actually destroy their own product far better than competitors can. Literally the only use for my XB1 right now is as a Netflix box, just to save some hours hours running Netflix on other hardware. My how the mighty have fallen...

I don't think they did too much wrong so much as the PS4 simply whipped their ass. The PS4 has sold more than even the PS2 now. I never thought that'd happen.
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2015
Messages
530 (0.16/day)
System Name My Addiction
Processor AMD Ryzen 7950X3D
Motherboard ASRock B650E PG-ITX WiFi
Cooling Alphacool Core Ocean T38 AIO 240mm
Memory G.Skill 32GB 6000MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX
Storage Some SSDs
Display(s) 42" Samsung TV + 22" Dell monitor vertically
Case Lian Li A4-H2O
Audio Device(s) Denon + Bose
Power Supply Corsair SF750
Mouse Logitech
Keyboard Glorious
VR HMD None
Software Win 10
Benchmark Scores None taken
I've been saying it this whole console gen for Microsoft, but whoever is leading the Xbox ship there is beyond clueless. They've taken a huge product in Xbox and through their own poor decision making have made it largely irrelevant. It's been an almost inconceivable lack of exclusives, combined with cross-play which made owning an XB1 unnecessary. No need to own one to play => no customers => devs going to other platforms => no exclusives, which has been the slow death spiral for XB1.

It's really been an amazing example of how smart, well-educated, top-tier managers can be so incredibly out of touch with their customer base that they make what they think are good decisions that actually destroy their own product far better than competitors can. Literally the only use for my XB1 right now is as a Netflix box, just to save some hours hours running Netflix on other hardware. My how the mighty have fallen...

AFAIK the lacking of exclussives is not because the console itself is bad, but because the strategy. What do Microsoft do if they want a promising game to be exclussive? They buying the studio and soon starting to influence it.
What do SONY do? They gave money to the studio and leave them to be wit their game now PS exclussive. They're not buying up every developer team and melt them in to get exclussives. Less money, less problems, more exclussive titles.
 
Joined
Sep 7, 2017
Messages
3,244 (1.22/day)
System Name Grunt
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte x570 Gaming X
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A
Memory Corsair LPX 3600 4x8GB
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 6800 XT (reference)
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Display(s) Samsung CFG70, Samsung NU8000 TV
Case Corsair C70
Power Supply Corsair HX750
Software Win 10 Pro
AFAIK the lacking of exclussives is not because the console itself is bad, but because the strategy. What do Microsoft do if they want a promising game to be exclussive? They buying the studio and soon starting to influence it.
What do SONY do? They gave money to the studio and leave them to be wit their game now PS exclussive. They're not buying up every developer team and melt them in to get exclussives. Less money, less problems, more exclussive titles.

That isn't true with most of MS' current exclusives. Sunset Overdrive is an Insomniac game. It's only problem is players themselves are seemingly in the dark and never heard of it. It sucks, but this is all on their own heads. If it was on PS4, it would have sold like cupcakes (Insomniac made the Ratchet and Clank series for Sony). Ori and Cuphead are both still made by their own independent studios, and some of Microsoft's biggest games in the past were only published by them. This is why Bungie went on their own and made Destiny and Gears of War is an Epic game.

I'll reiterate.. I don't think they did too much wrong. They simply got their ass kicked.

The good thing about them that no other developer has is ANOTHER platform. I wish they'd just concentrate on the PC now and drop the Xbox entirely.
 
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
1,431 (0.36/day)
Processor 11900K
Motherboard ASRock Z590 OC Formula
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 using 2x140mm 3000RPM industrial Noctuas
Memory G. Skill Trident Z 2x16GB 3600MHz
Video Card(s) eVGA RTX 3090 FTW3
Storage 2TB Crucial P5 Plus
Display(s) 1st: LG GR83Q-B 1440p 27in 240Hz / 2nd: Lenovo y27g 1080p 27in 144Hz
Case Lian Li Lancool MESH II RGB (I removed the RGB)
Audio Device(s) AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 850 TX
Mouse Glorious Model D
Keyboard Glorious MMK2 65% Lynx MX switches
Software Win10 Pro
Forza feels like driving a giant refrigerator down set paths.
That is Forza for you. It doesn't play like NFS. But set paths? Really? Horizon is an open world racing game you can take whatever shortcut you want.. how is that a set path??
 
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
6,881 (1.46/day)
Location
Florida
System Name natr0n-PC
Processor Ryzen 5950x-5600x | 9600k
Motherboard B450 AORUS M | Z390 UD
Cooling EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action | AIO
Memory Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) | Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage Various
Display(s) Pixio PX279 Prime
Case Thermaltake Level 20 VT | Black bench
Audio Device(s) LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W | EVGA 700 Gold
Software XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6
That is Forza for you. It doesn't play like NFS. But set paths? Really? Horizon is an open world racing game you can take whatever shortcut you want.. how is that a set path??

I was meaning how the the handling is really stiff by set path.
 
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
1,431 (0.36/day)
Processor 11900K
Motherboard ASRock Z590 OC Formula
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 using 2x140mm 3000RPM industrial Noctuas
Memory G. Skill Trident Z 2x16GB 3600MHz
Video Card(s) eVGA RTX 3090 FTW3
Storage 2TB Crucial P5 Plus
Display(s) 1st: LG GR83Q-B 1440p 27in 240Hz / 2nd: Lenovo y27g 1080p 27in 144Hz
Case Lian Li Lancool MESH II RGB (I removed the RGB)
Audio Device(s) AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 850 TX
Mouse Glorious Model D
Keyboard Glorious MMK2 65% Lynx MX switches
Software Win10 Pro
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
6,881 (1.46/day)
Location
Florida
System Name natr0n-PC
Processor Ryzen 5950x-5600x | 9600k
Motherboard B450 AORUS M | Z390 UD
Cooling EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action | AIO
Memory Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) | Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s) EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage Various
Display(s) Pixio PX279 Prime
Case Thermaltake Level 20 VT | Black bench
Audio Device(s) LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W | EVGA 700 Gold
Software XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
5,976 (1.04/day)
Location
Cybertron aka Canada
Processor Intel Core i5-3570K
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Pro
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 8GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-1600
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 670
Storage Intel 520 60GB, Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB
Display(s) BenQ 24" XL2420T
Case Corsair 550D
Audio Device(s) Sennheiser HD600, Audeze LCD-3F, Mytek Stereo 192 DSD, La Figaro 339, Burson HA-160, Geek Pulse X
Power Supply Corsair AX650
Mouse steelseries Sensei MLG edition
Keyboard Cooler Master QuickFire Pro
Software Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
there is a new version of The Elite Controller codename Project Washburn that is launching in Oct for $149. I think it has a USB-C port, Bluetooth, trigger paddles like SCUF controllers.
 

hat

Enthusiast
Joined
Nov 20, 2006
Messages
21,747 (3.29/day)
Location
Ohio
System Name Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: i5 10400
Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus
Cooling Cryorig M9 :: Stock
Memory 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400
Video Card(s) PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630
Storage Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5
Display(s) Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None
Power Supply FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
Meh, I fail to see how exclusives are a good thing for gaming. It may generate sales (mostly for Sony) but sales figures alone don't paint a complete picture of the health of the gaming industry.
 
Joined
Sep 7, 2017
Messages
3,244 (1.22/day)
System Name Grunt
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte x570 Gaming X
Cooling Noctua NH-U12A
Memory Corsair LPX 3600 4x8GB
Video Card(s) Gigabyte 6800 XT (reference)
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
Display(s) Samsung CFG70, Samsung NU8000 TV
Case Corsair C70
Power Supply Corsair HX750
Software Win 10 Pro
there is a new version of The Elite Controller codename Project Washburn that is launching in Oct for $149. I think it has a USB-C port, Bluetooth, trigger paddles like SCUF controllers.

Way too much for a gamepad imho. Although I do exclusively use Xbox ones on my PC.

Meh, I fail to see how exclusives are a good thing for gaming. It may generate sales (mostly for Sony) but sales figures alone don't paint a complete picture of the health of the gaming industry.

Sony and Nintendo. Somewhat MS when Bungie was around.
 
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
1,431 (0.36/day)
Processor 11900K
Motherboard ASRock Z590 OC Formula
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 using 2x140mm 3000RPM industrial Noctuas
Memory G. Skill Trident Z 2x16GB 3600MHz
Video Card(s) eVGA RTX 3090 FTW3
Storage 2TB Crucial P5 Plus
Display(s) 1st: LG GR83Q-B 1440p 27in 240Hz / 2nd: Lenovo y27g 1080p 27in 144Hz
Case Lian Li Lancool MESH II RGB (I removed the RGB)
Audio Device(s) AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 850 TX
Mouse Glorious Model D
Keyboard Glorious MMK2 65% Lynx MX switches
Software Win10 Pro
Yeah thats what I mean by its not NFS. Its how all the Forza games are, tune your setup right and will get better.
 
Top