Intel to Paper-launch 9th Gen Core on August 14, Availability in Q4-2018

[ToxicTaZ]

There's a pretty big different between that and what you can get direct through the lanes to the CPU vs going over DMI

Very true....DMI 3 is at its limits...

You would wait for next generation 10nm+ Icelake next Year to get new tech.

10nm+ Icelake on Z470 chipset
- 48 Lanes Dual channel
- PCIe 4.0
- DMI 4
- DDR4/DDR5

This what I heard coming. Icelake is finely replacing Skylake architecture much needed.

But October 2019 is a very very long ways away from now.

 

[efikkan]

@ToxicTaZ
PCIe lane bandwidth, PCIe lane count and memory bandwidth should not be any bottleneck for gaming on Coffeelake.
And with your i7-8700K at 5.1 GHz you are already beyond the point where the CPU is a bottleneck for gaming (except edge cases of course).

I'm very much looking forward to Ice Lake, but primarily due to improvements in IPC. But I doubt it's going to make a big difference for gaming, because in gaming a CPU only have to be fast enough to not bottleneck the GPU, and beyond a certain point there will only be marginal gains. If anything, the improvements in Ice Lake will probably help minimum framerates and stutter more than the average framerates, something which most benchmarks still fail to include.

 

[TheGuruStud]

@ToxicTaZ
PCIe lane bandwidth, PCIe lane count and memory bandwidth should not be any bottleneck for gaming on Coffeelake.
And with your i7-8700K at 5.1 GHz you are already beyond the point where the CPU is a bottleneck for gaming (except edge cases of course).

I'm very much looking forward to Ice Lake, but primarily due to improvements in IPC. But I doubt it's going to make a big difference for gaming, because in gaming a CPU only have to be fast enough to not bottleneck the GPU, and beyond a certain point there will only be marginal gains. If anything, the improvements in Ice Lake will probably help minimum framerates and stutter more than the average framerates, something which most benchmarks still fail to include.

Given the lake name and first one on 10nm, I doubt it's anything except node shrink and the death of ring bus.

 

[R0H1T]

Given the lake name and first one on 10nm, I doubt it's anything except node shrink and the death of ring bus.

There's no indication that ring bus is going away from MSDT, not yet anyway btw DMI 4 ~ is that even a thing?

 

[TheGuruStud]

There's no indication that ring bus is going away from MSDT, not yet anyway btw DMI 4 ~ is that even a thing?

It has to be killed for more cores and AMD is forcing their hand. Why have different designs? Use mesh across all SKUs to simplify things.

 

[efikkan]

Given the lake name and first one on 10nm, I doubt it's anything except node shrink and the death of ring bus.

Back when their tick-tock strategy was still a thing, it was presented as; Skylake (architecture) -> Cannon Lake (shrink) -> Ice Lake (architecture) -> Tiger Lake (shrink).
Plans have shifted and changed a lot since then, but not the fact that Ice Lake is a new architecture. I seriously doubt Tiger Lake will be realized as originally planned though.