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Alleged AMD RX 590 3D Mark Time Spy Scores Surface

Seems underwhelming, considering how flooded the used market is with cheap RX 580s, now.
And considering how many of those cheap cards find their way to this forum, crying at the moded bios, crashing drivers, black screens, bsods. Thanks but no thanks.
 
useless performance increase... 500 points seriously? ugh... Nvidia knows its a monopoly for high resolution gamers, thats why they treat us like money trees

500 points and almost all of them attributable to CPU gain of 9.3%. Graphics is almost perfectly matched.

This is shady as hell, but no matter how you look at it, its sad anyway... If this is a 590, its the 480>580 all over again. Pointless product, margin of error performance improvements...
 
500 points and almost all of them attributable to CPU gain of 9.3%. Graphics is almost perfectly matched.

This is shady as hell, but no matter how you look at it, its sad anyway... If this is a 590, its the 480>580 all over again. Pointless product, margin of error performance improvements...

AMD has to do something to prove to shareholders that they aren't doing nothing... even if they are really doing nothing.
 
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"590" :confused: .... and then "570" will be "575"? another Polaris rebadge is coming, but I doubt that it will be called 59x, I would bet it would go even higher than 6xx, because it is actually a refresh (not like was the 5xx vs 4xx)
 
AMD has to do something to prove to shareholders that they aren't doing nothing... even if they are really doing nothing.


its not that they aren't doing nothing, the 7nm factory has so many people vying for its time, that AMD just has to wait... luckily for us Apple sales have been slowing down a lot last couple of years, so now maybe other companies can get in that TSMC 7nm production line
 
A 2304 core 12nm part, I wonder how it will do against the 2070.
 
Some 580s already OC to around 1545 Mhz like the MSI RX 580 Mech 2
How do benchmarks look for those though? Don't they scale well with clock?
 
it's not even designed to compete with 2070. With those specs, I'm guessing somewhere between 1060 and 1070.
 
How do benchmarks look for those though? Don't they scale well with clock?

According to TPU review, a 12% OC (memory too) gives around 10.6% more performance.
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As Raevenlord said... "Remember overclocking gains aren't linear, though, and since it seems the RX 590 will still make use of GDDR5 memory (2000 MHz clocks; and again, remember the investment in repurposing the design for GDDR6), so you better push out your own manual memory overclocking to improve on Polaris' most pressing limitation."

Without an improvement in memory through-put/bandwidth, I don't see the Polaris 30 actually giving us much more in sheer performance. While I'm sure AMD has already developed and allocated funds to have a GDDR6 memory controller it's just how easy it is to bolt to the old Polaris.

While now I'd say we won't even see any Vega architecture implementation with GDDR6 for any discrete desktop GPU either. All this has me thinking it's all about Navi now. I almost consider if AMD has a Navi GDDR6 that ready for mainstream, and this is just some "pipe-cleaner" placeholder to buy some time?
 
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