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Bethesda is Feeling Generous, or the Apology: 2018 Fallout 76 Players to Receive Fallout Classic Collection for PC

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Bethesda can’t even get this one running smoothly from my own experience ;)
They can't even get their launcher to work (that's also from personal experience) :banghead:
 

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They can't even get their launcher to work (that's also from personal experience) :banghead:
Well other than having to actually install another game(the lame ES card game) to use its friends list to unblock my friend that 76 blocked with no explanation or way to unblock, the launcher hasn’t really been an issue but yeah needin another game to fix a problem with another game was a pretty frustrating low point...
 

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Well other than having to actually install another game(the lame ES card game) to use its friends list to unblock my friend that 76 blocked with no explanation or way to unblock, the launcher hasn’t really been an issue but yeah needin another game to fix a problem with another game was a pretty frustrating low point...
I've only used it before Quake Champions went on Steam. It had some major scaling and graphics problems on 4K monitor and occasionally would be stuck or display blank screen if I've played any game in fullscreen mode while BL was opened. Also, Bethesda hasn't managed to fix the update system. Just like 2 years ago, instead of distributing differential patches they are simply pushing the whole game to the end-user. Also, the updater only keeps track of progress on a file-by-file basis, so if it's one giant multi-GB blob, then you might think that your update got stuck, since the progress bar hasn't moved for several hours. Sometimes it would "forget" the location of the games folder, if it's installed in any place other than default. There is more, I just can't remember them all. And that does not include server issues and outages since their migration to Azure cloud last year.
 
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"We're sorry you preordered a game for $100 for the right to beta access that will remain in beta for another year after the beta was said to be completed. Please accept our apology by accepting this gift of a 1997 game that currently costs $2.49."
It's my hope that people stop paying developers to test their bug-riddled garbage someday. I drew the line at overpriced DLC long ago.
 
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It's my hope that people stop paying developers to test their bug-riddled garbage someday. I drew the line at overpriced DLC long ago.

Bethesda has to be the worst. Elder Scrolls Online was in beta for 1/1.5 year(s) after launch.
 
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Sorry Lex what they are offering can be bought on GoG for less than $5 for all of it.
Agreed.
I own 76 and enjoying it for what it is
And a lot of people are. Still, it has been a less than stellar launch and only since major patches has it become closer to a finished product.
but this is a sad attempt at “compensation”
I didn't say it was great, just that it was something of an apology, and not an inconsiderable one. The reality is, people need to research a purchase before they make it and vote with their wallet. The fact that Beshesda is doing anything at all is a positive gesture of good faith given that they have no obligation to.
Seeing as it will use their launcher I can almost bet it would actually run better on GoG too seeing as they know how to run old games without issues
Also agreed.
 
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Well other than having to actually install another game(the lame ES card game) to use its friends list to unblock my friend that 76 blocked with no explanation or way to unblock, the launcher hasn’t really been an issue but yeah needin another game to fix a problem with another game was a pretty frustrating low point...

Wow :D

I didn't say it was great, just that it was something of an apology, and not an inconsiderable one. The reality is, people need to research a purchase before they make it and vote with their wallet. The fact that Beshesda is doing anything at all is a positive gesture of good faith given that they have no obligation to.

Bethesda has become more adept at making an apology than actually delivering. They even apologized beforehand, we now know why.

You can explain this as positive gestures but to me it sounds like damage control, front to back. Spectacular, indeed ;) Note: damage control that costs them about a dollar per customer, and only in the most positive financial outlook they can make over these ancient games.
 
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So they are giving free games to all the fans of the fallout games.
In other words, they are giving free games to people who already have those games.
Is it really a gift, or more like just trolling their most loyal fans?
 
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I think the people are being a little over fatalistic. Square Enix pooped Final Fantasy XIV's launch , acknowledged their mistake and redid the game, now is a very good mmorpg. No Man's Sky has improved a lot since its launch too.

Let's see how things turn, but I doubt things will stay like this.
Except Bethesda never fixes their own games. Skyrim on the switch, for instance, has multiple game breaking bugs that have been around since the OG xbox 360 launch. Fallout 3 was left to rot. Fallout 4's physics engine is still broken. And the list goes on.

Modders have always stepped in to fix bethesda's garbage releases. With 76, that isnt possible, both because its an online game and because Bethesda is BANNING people who use mods, after previously supporting the modding community. Bethesda cant even figure out what kind of mod you are using, so they are banning any and all modders, even if the mods are just tweaks to get the game running properly, and requiring you to write them a letter explaining how using mods is bad like a third grade homework assignment.

You are right, I doubt things will stay like this. They will get worse. Bethesda will introduce more grinding and micro-transaction mechanics to try and make more money, they will alienate the fanbase with DLC that will make the game buggier, break profiles with updates, wind up accidentally banning legitimate players for no reason, and then 76 will be abandoned altogether leaving fans of the game high and dry. Squenix took down FFXIV entirely, redeveloped MASSIVE portions of the game, and re-released it with a massive apology from the creator himself after having refunded players who bought the original game.

Todd would never do such a thing, unless he could figure out how to sell a copy of skyrim with each apology.
 
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It is arrogance and seeing what they will get away with.
I was just at WalMart yesterday and noticed that Sims 4 Seasons and Jobs packs are for sale, right along side Sims 3 Seasons and Jobs packs. Too bad Sims 2 and Sims 1 Seasons and Jobs packs aren't for sale, too.

:rolleyes:

This happens for the same reason we get spam. Because stupid people choose to play the game.

(It wouldn't be so shameful if Sims 4 had actually been an upgrade. But, it clearly wasn't. It was merely a "sell less for more" exercise in shaking down the consumer.)

Crowdfunding, which you pointed out, is probably the best solution. Corporations these days seem to believe they can push increasingly anti-consumer practices (like six different Nvidia cards with the same name number). Of course, there are traps involved, like vaporware. I had been waiting, for years, for the fanless gaming computer case. It looks like it was a scam. Star Citizen... is that thing ever going to be released? I haven't paid much attention.

We know we can expect bad faith from companies like EA, after things like SimCity 5 ("It really does super-awesome calculations on our servers, really!" — "The game plots are teeny-tiny because that's a feature, not a bug, but the feature is to force-feed you our DLC pack!") and Sims ("If you don't buy Sims 4 you'll never get the privilege of paying for everything a fifth time because we will refuse to sell you Sims 5 muah ha ha!"), let alone other franchises.

We know we can expect bad faith from a lot of game-making corporations (beyond the ordinary baseline level of the corporation, as it is a mechanism based in bad faith) but vetting people trying to do crowdsourced games is also a challenge. People with extremely good faith may not have the track record of releases needed to be taken seriously while others may be poor-quality because they succeeded in the most crooked corporations like EA.
 
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these ancient games.
You of all people should know that the age of a game has little to do with it value as long as it is well liked. There are a lot of people who like the previous entries in the series and thus the offer of them is not an inconsiderable one. A good gesture is a good gesture regardless of cost. Try to remember that those games would otherwise be sold for more, so they are "losing" more than $1 per customer.
 
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You of all people should know that the age of a game has little to do with it value as long as it is well liked. There are a lot of people who like the previous entries in the series and thus the offer of them is not an inconsiderable one. A good gesture is a good gesture regardless of cost. Try to remember that those games would other be sold for more, so they are "losing" more than $1 per customer.

Right. Its a great offer, suit yourself. I wonder if the playerbase agrees, and in the end, that is what matters. You can look at the sentiment over here to get an indication. My view is that of miserably organized damage control that literally costs them nothing. They didn't have any of these Fallout sales to begin with, and its a digital copy.

I've checked and these keys go for 2,25 EUR online. Its budget bin junk at this point.
 
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