Alleged AMD Ryzen 3000 Series CPU Lineup Leaked by Russian E-Tailer

[moproblems99]

hmm what will be the price of 3700 here is US? I will wait till they catch up with my 8350

Pretty sure a 2600 will be much better already.

 

[ironwolf]

6C/12T @ 50W TDP? That's mighty mighty tasty yummy if true.

 

[lexluthermiester]

bs until confirmed legit yo

True. This is still fun speculation though.

@Raevenlord

A few typos. In the paragraph about the Ryzen 7 tier, series is missing an 's' at the end of the first sentence. The next two paragraphs both have a "TDp" instead of a "TDP". Just a heads up.

This. Second heads up. Not trying to be dink's. Just pro your concern.

 

[Metroid]

Prices of lower product lines will adjust for these newer SKU's. Additionally don't expect the 3xxx line to be "cheap" like 1xxx or 2xxx were. Now that they're towering over Intel, they'll charge for it.

This is a good point, selling cheaper while having an inferior product is something, selling cheap while having a superior product makes no sense in the business world but like always we"hope" that is the case right now. AMD might not overprice this generation, instead they will the next generation but by then we have a better competition from intel. I'm keen on that 3770x, 12 cores is more than enough for the next 3 years or so.

 

[chinmi]

i hope this is true

 

[ViperXTR]

Gigbyte also listed it it seems but was removed later on or just shopped

 

[Captain_Tom]

what am I supposed to do with all these cores ?

Am I the only one here old enough to remember the days of 2010 where there were 6-core Phenom II x6's and 8 and 12-thread Naehelm?!

I know 6 cores doesn't sound like a lot, but back then 33% of the games used ONE core - and 75% used only 2 cores. So 6 core Phenoms or 8-thread i7's were insane - they had 3-4 times more cores than games could even use.

In other words, there used to be a time where you could spend $500 on a CPU and it would have ludicrously more horsepower than needed. AMD is simply bringing us back to those days....

 

[HD64G]

Even the browsers today can utilise as many cores as your cpu has. Not only games use a cpu. And many new games properly utilise 4 or more cores with some of them needing 8 (i.e. AC Odyssey).

 

[Dammeron]

All that power and in reality Ryzen 3 3300x overclocked to near 5GHz would be plenty for 99% of users.
Unless you'll use it to game, stream, virtualize and render at the same time.
I'm sure some people here will find them selves in that 1% lol

what am I supposed to do with all these cores ?

The same was told when 2500k was recommended over 2600k, cause "those 4 additional threads are not worthy the money". And now 2600k still works fine, while 2500k became a bit of a slowpoke compared to new systems.

So while 8c/16t, or 12c/24t may seem like an overkill right now, Your PC may last a few more years on it without some real performance losses.

 

[Xuper]

Gigbyte also listed it it seems but was removed later on or just shopped
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Matisse ?

 

[chaosmassive]

I am worried about 16C SKU part, that is Threadripper class CPU paired with X470 or even X370 mainboard, does VRM has enough juice for that CPU?

 

[PanicLake]

Am I the only one here old enough to remember the days of 2010 where there were 6-core Phenom II x6's and 8 and 12-thread Naehelm?!

I know 6 cores doesn't sound like a lot, but back then 33% of the games used ONE core - and 75% used only 2 cores. So 6 core Phenoms or 8-thread i7's were insane - they had 3-4 times more cores than games could even use.

In other words, there used to be a time where you could spend $500 on a CPU and it would have ludicrously more horsepower than needed. AMD is simply bringing us back to those days....

PC do not exists solely for gaming, exit from your little bubble!

 

[Metroid]

Gigbyte also listed it it seems but was removed later on or just shopped
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This is the proof we needed i guess. Intel is done for.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Am I the only one here old enough to remember the days of 2010 where there were 6-core Phenom II x6's and 8 and 12-thread Naehelm?!

I know 6 cores doesn't sound like a lot, but back then 33% of the games used ONE core - and 75% used only 2 cores. So 6 core Phenoms or 8-thread i7's were insane - they had 3-4 times more cores than games could even use.

In other words, there used to be a time where you could spend $500 on a CPU and it would have ludicrously more horsepower than needed. AMD is simply bringing us back to those days....

I'll go along with this...

This is the proof we needed i guess. Intel is done for.

But not this..

AMD is hitting it out of the park and forcing Intel to kick it up a many notches, but they are not destroying Intel. Not yet anyway..

 

[Valantar]

I am worried about 16C SKU part, that is Threadripper class CPU paired with X470 or even X370 mainboard, does VRM has enough juice for that CPU?

Given a 125W TDP, yes. No problem at all, even during short boosts. Remember that Intel specs the Z370 platform for 95W, yet high-end chips can reach 250W when overclocked, and routinely consume 160-180W in "stock" Turbo Boost. The VRMs will cope just fine, likely even on low-end boards as long as you're not overclocking.

 

[B-Real]

Am I the only one here old enough to remember the days of 2010 where there were 6-core Phenom II x6's and 8 and 12-thread Naehelm?!

I know 6 cores doesn't sound like a lot, but back then 33% of the games used ONE core - and 75% used only 2 cores. So 6 core Phenoms or 8-thread i7's were insane - they had 3-4 times more cores than games could even use.

In other words, there used to be a time where you could spend $500 on a CPU and it would have ludicrously more horsepower than needed. AMD is simply bringing us back to those days....

What's your problem with that? Games doesn't require the highest number of available cores in desktop CPUs, but there is a choice if you need stronger CPUs for different works. You don't need to buy a $500 CPU for games, $200 is more than enough.

And only Intel is pricing the same or a bit more for their CPUs, AMD has reduced prices of the same category CPUs with Zen+.

...

I just feel that you really hate AMD mate. Sorry...

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

PC do not exists solely for gaming, exit from your little bubble!

And for people like you, there are already plenty of CPU choices already available.

These CPUs are squarely aimed at people that like to build ridiculously powerful PCs. Get off your high horse.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I just feel that you really hate AMD mate. Sorry...

That's what happens when you think with feelings instead of logic based observation. And no, you're not sorry. You made that statement with deliberate focus and intent. I do not "hate" AMD. However, I do passionately dislike people making ignorant, unwarranted and baseless claims about other people without any evidence to support such claims..

For the record, I like, regularly recommend and sell AMD based PC's. I hope and strongly suspect these new CPU's are going to kick ass.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

What's your problem with that? Games doesn't require the highest number of available cores in desktop CPUs, but there is a choice if you need stronger CPUs for different works. You don't need to buy a $500 CPU for games, $200 is more than enough.

And only Intel is pricing the same or a bit more for their CPUs, AMD has reduced prices of the same category CPUs with Zen+.

There is nothing wrong with it, you have the wrong idea. Captian_Tom is simply pointing out that AMD is giving us the option of building redoculously silly PCs again, as opposed to the dark days where the only choices were quad core i7s or HDET too expensive to make a silly build with.

I am worried about 16C SKU part, that is Threadripper class CPU paired with X470 or even X370 mainboard, does VRM has enough juice for that CPU?

AM4 motherboards could easily cope with 180 watt ryzen 1700 CPUs with OCed memory controllers. Remember that rumored 16 core part is 7nm, likely no higher power usage then a OCed 1700 chip. We saw with ryzen 2700 the 12nm drop dramatically reduced power consumption, I expect even better with ryzen 3000.

 

[lexluthermiester]

AM4 motherboards could easily cope with 180 watt ryzen 1700 CPUs with OCed memory controllers. Remember that rumored 16 core part is 7nm, likely no higher power usage then a OCed 1700 chip.

This seems about right. Although, wasn't it 200W maximum? Thought I read that somewhere..

 

[Captain_Tom]

I'll go along with this...


But not this..

AMD is hitting it out of the park and forcing Intel to kick it up a many notches, but they are not destroying Intel. Not yet anyway..

They might destroy Intel with this, but the truth is we won't know how devastating this line up is until 2020.

Bare with me: We all know Intel has nothing to respond with for at least 6 months... But they are a big enough company to withstand even this for that long. However if SunnyCove comes out and their top i9 can't even beat AMD's R5's... Then we will get an idea of how truly bad this is for them... Everyone in the future will look back on Zen 2 as AMD's "SandyBridge moment."

 

[lexluthermiester]

They might destroy Intel with this, but the truth is we won't know how devastating this line up is until 2020.

? Thought this was coming later on this year as a part of their release schedule?

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

This seems about right. Although, wasn't it 200W maximum? Thought I read that somewhere..

200W might be the hypothetical limit. I dont think I have ever seen a ryzen chip that high. My 1700 at 3.9 GHz only pushes 125 watt, and I've never pushed it higher. I cant find the 200W limit listed anywhere, just old references to a 140 watt limit with is hilariously incorrect.

? Thought this was coming later on this year as a part of their release schedule?

Yes, ryzen 3000 is scheduled for 2019. 2020 is socket AM4's replacement IIRC.

 

[moproblems99]

? Thought this was coming later on this year as a part of their release schedule?

I thought it was H1 2019.

Edit: I also thought Navi was H2 2019.

 

[Captain_Tom]

? Thought this was coming later on this year as a part of their release schedule?

Which one?

I expect AMD to launch some Zen 2 AM4 chips by Q2, and as far as I am aware Intel isn't launching any SunnyCove till the very end of this year.

I know Intel says this and that, but I don't see any firm release dates on SC. Furthermore Intel also states multiple times that they expect to use "multiple nodes depending on product type." To me that means Intel will launch a limited amount of 10nm laptop chips Q3/4, and Sunny Cove on desktop will likely be dual 14nm++++ dies "glued" together. Sounds like a massive power hog to me. 100w with 10 cores and an IPC deficit compared to AMD...