The Division 2 Skipping Steam, Available Only on Ubisoft and Epic Stores; System Requirements Outed With Radeon VII

[TheDeeGee]

This! I have installed on my machine:

- Steam (70% of my games)
- battle net (Black Ops 4, Overwatch)
- Epic Launcher (Unreal)
- Ubisoft Launcher (AC)
- Windows Store (Forza)
- Bethesta Launcher (Quake, Wolfenstein)
- Origin (Battlefield franchise, FIFA)

I mean... this is going way too far. I don´t think this is attractive for potential new PC gamers. But hey, PC gaming companies are firing bullets at their own business lately (GPU prices, RAM, launchers, etc), so idk.

You don't have to launch them all at startup anyways.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The only launchers I actively use are Steam and GOG.

I don't use the GOG Galaxy launcher. Launchers are irritating. I mean whats the point? You need a program to start another program? Nope. My games are downloaded and installed directly.

I'm planning to switch to GOG as much as I can, but it's an expensive switch even with sales.

I feel you there. Been buying my games from them for a long time, I think 2009 was the first purchase.

This! I have installed on my machine: - Steam (70% of my games) - battle net (Black Ops 4, Overwatch) - Epic Launcher (Unreal) - Ubisoft Launcher (AC) - Windows Store (Forza) - Bethesta Launcher (Quake, Wolfenstein) - Origin (Battlefield franchise, FIFA) I mean... this is going way too far.

Yup, 100% agree! I refuse to do it.

 

[sepheronx]

I miss the days of taking a disk and installing a game


These programs are just ridiculous and growing in numbers. I won't be bothered to run them all.

I guess programs like launch box and the like will end up growing even more popular when these start increasing in even greater numbers.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I miss the days of taking a disk and installing a game

Right?

I guess programs like launch box and the like will end up growing even more popular when these start increasing in even greater numbers.

Or people will just loose interest in gaming.

 

[INSTG8R]

I miss the days of taking a disk and installing a game


These programs are just ridiculous and growing in numbers. I won't be bothered to run them all.

I guess programs like launch box and the like will end up growing even more popular when these start increasing in even greater numbers.

480 games on Steam alone probably another hundred across the other launchers. Where am I gonna put all those boxes?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Where am I gonna put all those boxes?

Same place the rest of us do, on a shelf or disc binder.

 

[Vya Domus]

That's a brave comparison.

Is it ? Skylake-X isn't great for gaming.

 

[Dave65]

Well, I was already actively avoiding Ubisoft games because of the sheer amount of DRM they have on top of Steam, and now they made it easier for me to avoid them.

Agreed non Steam just makes it worse.

 

[NicklasAPJ]

Is it ? Skylake-X isn't great for gaming.

All I have to said.

 

[bug]

This! I have installed on my machine:

- Steam (70% of my games)
- battle net (Black Ops 4, Overwatch)
- Epic Launcher (Unreal)
- Ubisoft Launcher (AC)
- Windows Store (Forza)
- Bethesta Launcher (Quake, Wolfenstein)
- Origin (Battlefield franchise, FIFA)

I mean... this is going way too far. I don´t think this is attractive for potential new PC gamers. But hey, PC gaming companies are firing bullets at their own business lately (GPU prices, RAM, launchers, etc), so idk.

The solution is pretty obvious: you need a Launcher for your other launchers.
Joking aside, launchers is why I was a GOG exclusive when I bought my games.

That's a brave comparison. Wonder how much that one cost amd.

About the same as it cost them to get the "2080Ti or Radeon VII" statement

 

[sepheronx]

480 games on Steam alone probably another hundred across the other launchers. Where am I gonna put all those boxes?

I love collections but I also understand your point. It should be options, not: buying a disk with a steam executable in it.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Agreed non Steam just makes it worse.

LOL, wut? Either way you had to use Uplay,. Take Steam away and make it a less complex and cumbersome project and it is only an improvement.

 

[bug]

LOL, wut? Either way you had to use Uplay,. Take Steam away and make it a less complex and cumbersome project and it is only an improvement.

I think, since publishers insist on running their own services, a good idea would be to make titles store agnostic and tie them to the store they're activated in.
This would provide cross-store pay OOB and make stores compete to get publishers/titles on board.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I think, since publishers insist on running their own services, a good idea would be to make titles store agnostic and tie them to the store they're activated in.
This would provide cross-store pay OOB and make stores compete to get publishers/titles on board.

That’s actually a pretty good idea! It just needs some organization to lead the charge and ramrod it through and get pall publishers to buy off on it.

 

[bug]

That’s actually a pretty good idea! It just needs some organization to lead the charge and ramrod it through and get pall publishers to buy off on it.

Neah, the whole reason publishers run their own services is the hope of running Steam and other 3rd party stores into the ground so they can control their games Hollywood style and charge whatever they want.

 

[Paganstomp]

Can't we just get the game on RPM media like the old days! Eating a bag of Doritos while waiting for hell to freeze over to finish the install.

 

[sam_86314]

I don't use the GOG Galaxy launcher. Launchers are irritating. I mean whats the point? You need a program to start another program? Nope. My games are downloaded and installed directly.

The nice thing about the GOG launcher is that it doesn't have to be running to play your games. Making a shortcut directly to the executable doesn't even make the launcher start. I just use it for downloading.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The nice thing about the GOG launcher is that it doesn't have to be running to play your games. Making a shortcut directly to the executable doesn't even make the launcher start. I just use it for downloading.

That's a good point, it's the one launcher I could use if needed.

RPM media

What the heck is "RPM" media?

 

[Basard]

Jealous?

The only people who don't have to shave are Jesus and Santa Clause!!!!

 

[dozenfury]

While I'm never thrilled with multiple launchers, it's needed for enough different games that I go along with it. I'm not going to exclude myself from playing a good game just because of having to run another launcher besides Steam. In a lot of ways players with that mentality is what has fed some of Steam's behavior in the past. Not to mention refusing to run a launcher means you won't consider usually many games from a vendor like EA with Origin or Ubi with Uplay.

I'm personally much more concerned about the game that the devs actually put out. With The Division 2 I want to see how clean it is with the bugs and exploits early on, since that was a major major issue with the first game. I also want to see that they've improved the game over the first and they aren't just cashing in with another game in the same engine that should really just be DLC for The Division, but is sold as The Division 2 as a cash grab. I haven't seen anything pointing to that being the case yet, but I have seen Ubi do it before. So at least for me I might wait wait until a month or so after release to see how these things turn out rather than pre-ordering or jumping on release day. I got my playtime's worth out of The Division (1), but it could have been sooo much better with just a little more work.

 

[Melvis]

I find it funny that they say you need a more powerful CPU the higher the resolution which is false as we all know its the other way around.

 

[bug]

That's a good point, it's the one launcher I could use if needed.

I (used to) just fire it up every now and then because it checks for updates for all your titles at once.
You can launch your games from there and it will keep track of how much you have played each one, but I very rarely do/did that.

Long story short, if there has to be a game manager, this is how I believe it should be done - opt-in by default for everything (and yes, that includes cloud saves).

 

[LiviuTM]

This! I have installed on my machine:

- Steam (70% of my games)
- battle net (Black Ops 4, Overwatch)
- Epic Launcher (Unreal)
- Ubisoft Launcher (AC)
- Windows Store (Forza)
- Bethesta Launcher (Quake, Wolfenstein)
- Origin (Battlefield franchise, FIFA)

I mean... this is going way too far. I don´t think this is attractive for potential new PC gamers. But hey, PC gaming companies are firing bullets at their own business lately (GPU prices, RAM, launchers, etc), so idk.

You forgot GOG Galaxy and Discord. It can be a bit of a hassle having so many stores/launchers, especially when Steam is such an well oiled machine.
On the other hand, competition is good and may lead to more money ending in the developers' hands, which in turn will hopefully will lead to better, more polished games in the future.

 

[bug]

You forgot GOG Galaxy and Discord. It can be a bit of a hassle having so many stores/launchers, especially when Steam is such an well oiled machine.
On the other hand, competition is good and may lead to more money ending in the developers' hands, which in turn will hopefully will lead to better, more polished games in the future.

What competition? Besides GOG and Steam, all stores are run by publishers, mainly for their own content. This is done to sell their stuff on their own terms (not an illegal or nefarious goal per se). I couldn't tell you of a single worthy feature these stores enable, but I can name several they take away.

 

[Vayra86]

LOL, wut? Either way you had to use Uplay,. Take Steam away and make it a less complex and cumbersome project and it is only an improvement.

This, exactly. I really don't see why either Steam or Epic store is relevant in this story. Uplay is actually quite alright these days. It runs properly, it doesn't interfere all the time, and it has some additional (social) functionality that also works OK. I'm not a fan and when they gave me a survey on Uplay I gave it 3/10 saying I wouldn't miss it one bit if its gone, but fair is fair - they came from something that was almost malware to a well designed application.

If you're a GOG - only gamer this topic wouldn't even be on your radar, would it? And if you think its smart to be so tied to Steam for your gaming... that is probably even more damaging than having all those storefronts to gaming as a market. Its very healthy that Valve is getting competition in this space. Yes, they are all individual publishers, but what was Valve exactly? Exactly.

One final note, if you're annoyed with tons of icons...