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Editorial Steam Desertions Bode Well for Half Life 3 Prospects

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I hope this is the next Battlefield V; just a hard sales drop compared to predecessors.
 
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This is the kick up the complacent arse Valve needed. As they say, it's gotten too big for its boots and only saw the $$$$ signs IMO. Steam sales are now a joke, prices are much higher in general than what you can find by shopping around. Even if they woke up and decided HL3 should be a thing, we would still be 4-5 years way I'd guess.
 
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I have Steam, Uplay, Origin and Epic games launchers.. what I don't have is any of those platforms giving me 10 years worth of a platform that I know and am familiar with and have 100+ games on.... Except for steam, I mainly buy games on sale, off keys sites, bundle sites etc but I activate them all on steam and they play perfectly, it's familiar, it works, you can buy games anywhere and 99% of the time they activate on steam without any effort on my part, I have friends on there from work, forums, websites, it just seems to work more effortlessly than any other platform
 
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Basically what NdMk2o1o said is how I feel. I will only buy steam games, with exception to a few MMO's who don't do game stores. It's not about the price for me. It's about having all my games in one library. I've even repurchased games just to have them in my steam library.

It's basically similar to Google Play and iOS. Would you want to give up all you invested in either app store for a new 3rd option, who doesn't even have 1/10 the features that the established players do?
 
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These are some of the quotes i seen from supporters of this move from Epic and Deep Silver:

* "All those review bombing are Childish" - We are all childish, otherwise we would not be playing video games, watching movies and cartoons, reading comics and books, role playing, collecting figures, buying Older Consoles for nostalgia and listening to the same music we did back when we were 15. Review Bombing is a powerful tool to protest and punch them in the face. Remember PIPA, SOPA and ACTA? millions Protested including big names like Wikipedia and Amazon. Remember Rockstar banning Players for modding the Single Player? Remember Bethesda pushing Paid mods? if it were not for Review Bombing all this crap will still be around.

* "Steam is being unfair to Devs, they will earn more cash in Epic" - I could care less how much Devs and Publishers get out the game i paid with my own Cash, it's not like i stole them.

* "Steam is too big" - Who cares? all my games and buddies are there and it has a massive amount of features that no other store/launcher will have in the next 10 years.

* "Steam games are more expensive" - I would gladly pay more to not have and extra launcher cluttering my Desktop, i'm sick of all these Launchers and DRM bullshit.

* "You're spewing Steam bias" - Everybody has a bias, for or against something.

* "This is why i hate Steam, community is too toxic" - Don't let the door hit you on your way out. No one is forcing you to stay on Steam. Also, this is the internet. People are toxic everywhere and they just noticed Steam? If you can't handle it, get off from the internet by throwing of all your devices.

Anyone happy with Epic is welcome to stay there.
 
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* "Steam games are more expensive" - I would gladly pay more to not have and extra launcher cluttering my Desktop, i'm sick of all these Launchers and DRM bullshit.
This. I too would happily pay 10-15% more for a game to be DRM free.

EDIT; GOG is my game etailer of choice because they are DRM free, not because they're less expensive.
 
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This. I too would happily pay 10-15% more for a game to be DRM free.
No one mentioned GOG as a DRM free client. :rolleyes:

I learned long ago not to trust EA Games, so never installed Origin. Never bought another EA game either. I have been an MMO player and I never bought many "short duration" games, RPGs and some simulations tended to last longer.

* "This is why i hate Steam, community is too toxic" - Don't let the door hit you on your way out. No one is forcing you to stay on Steam. Also, this is the internet. People are toxic everywhere and they just noticed Steam? If you can't handle it, get off from the internet by throwing of all your devices.
and this poster's reply is as toxic as you can get in most game forums.
 
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Origin, Uplay, Battle.net, and Steam...the big ones I can live with. But I haven't and don't plan to go through Epic Games.

What changed moreso in the last year or two is that these big ones loosened up the reins on exclusivity. Instead of absolutely only being able to buy certain games on a certain client, it has opened a bit. I can buy Assassin's Creed for example in the Origin store. In fact, sometimes because of sales the prices on a game will be cheaper on Origin than Uplay for an Ubisoft game.

The other thing in the industry for physical games was a big subtle change was the phasing out of the default 20% off on new AAA titles. That was driven by Best Buy and the GCU, which Target and Amazon ended up essentially implementing to match and keep up with. When Best Buy stopped that program, so did other big retailers like Amazon and Target. So instead of $48 for every new AAA physical game at release (essentially), they are now $60 and more slowly drop. $60 for a new game in physical version from retailers just pushes customers to look to online stores for digital versions that might have better prices.
 

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they are now $60 and more slowly drop. $60 for a new game in physical version from retailers just pushes customers to look to online stores for digital versions that might have better prices.
I’ve found on Amazon that after about 6 months, the price of physical games drops below digital, and continues to drop, while the digital version stays at the high price.

It’s actually a cheaper way to get a game, even if you intend to use it digitally, such as on Steam.
 
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I’ve found on Amazon that after about 6 months, the price of physical games drops below digital, and continues to drop, while the digital version stays at the high price.

It’s actually a cheaper way to get a game, even if you intend to use it digitally, such as on Steam.
I always try to buy the actual Physical copy of games, unless there's a great sale on the digital Steam version.
Don't reply, didn't mean to revive an old thread.
Thank You,
 
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