AM2+ And AM3 Compatible With AM2 Motherboards

HellasVagabond · Jul 20, 2007

Currently if you want to upgrade from an AMD processor older than the AM2 socket you're going to have to buy a new motherboard. This means that while the prices of the processors themselves may be enticing, the prospect of potentially changing your entire system may change your mind. However, with its AM2+ and AM3 CPUs AMD will be ensuring that they are backwards compatible with current motherboards thus when Phenom finally hits the streets socket AM2, Athlon 64 X2 and FX owners will be able to purchase the new model without changing motherboards.

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tkpenalty · Jul 20, 2007

Thats it.... im getting the M2N-E SLI ASAP!

At least there is still a company that knows how annoying it is to sell mobos..

Azn Tr14dZ · Jul 20, 2007

Good news...if I can't afford a C2D Setup soon, then I will go with an AM2 Setup, and I can use AM2+ and AM3 CPUs...(just not DDR3)

a111087 · Jul 21, 2007

as i understand some features will not work on AM2 boards

HellasVagabond · Jul 21, 2007

True....New hardware improvements that new AM2+ and AM3 mobos will have wont be possible in older models...However i dont think we will see any major differences. Besides AMD stated that they will roll out Bios updates for all AM2 boards in order to make the best out of this.

PVTCaboose1337 · Jul 21, 2007

I think the HT speed goes up a bit, but that never really did anything.

HookeyStreet · Jul 21, 2007

AMD did state this from the beginning (that AM2 mobos will be upgradeable to AM3)

HellasVagabond · Jul 21, 2007

This aint exactly an upgrade...Its a Backwards Compatibility between the new AM2+ , AM3 cpus with the oldest AM2 motherboards.

Nemesis881 · Jul 21, 2007

This is a good move seeing as AMD has been down for a while. :toast:

HellasVagabond · Jul 21, 2007

Perhaps this will boost AMDs sales a bit which is a good thing...Lets hope it works.

quickie · Jul 21, 2007

I kept this in mind when I built my system. It's been known for a while now that AM2+/AM3 will work on the AM2 (provided a BIOS update).

WarEagleAU · Jul 21, 2007

one of the new mobos for the phenom processor is supposed to have either the capability or actually be able to run DDR3 modules. Cant remember where I read about it though.

BTW, isnt Phenom also coming in socket 1207 for possibility of 8 execution cores? also.I hear tale of a socket 1207+ for these as well.

Sovereign · Jul 21, 2007

quickie said:
I kept this in mind when I built my system. It's been known for a while now that AM2+/AM3 will work on the AM2 (provided a BIOS update).

Thats exactly what I did. I decided to stick with the AM2 knowing that AMD was going to release backwards compatible Phenoms. I decided to save myself a bunch of money instead of hopping on the C2D bandwagon for awhile and then moving back to AMD once their Barcelona/Phenom CPUs hit the market! :pimp:

PVTCaboose1337 · Jul 21, 2007

Sovereign said:
Thats exactly what I did. I decided to stick with the AM2 knowing that AMD was going to release backwards compatible Phenoms. I decided to save myself a bunch of money instead of hopping on the C2D bandwagon for awhile and then moving back to AMD once their Barcelona/Phenom CPUs hit the market!

My thoughts exactly!

a111087 · Jul 21, 2007

anyway... THIS IS AWSOME!!! :rockout:

Sovereign · Jul 21, 2007

Welp, I know what I'm getting myself for a birthday present! It so happens that my b-day is in October, around the time the Phenom will be released... :pimp:

mandelore · Jul 21, 2007

Sovereign said:
Welp, I know what I'm getting myself for a birthday present! It so happens that my b-day is in October, around the time the Phenom will be released...

mines December, and yes, my thoughts exactly

the Q is tho, i have an a8r32-mvp delux 939 mobo with my opty 185, should i go am2, am2+ or am3? i wouldnt mind ddr3 if the prices drop and latencies to match

erocker · Jul 21, 2007

Yeah, I'm waiting for full fledged AMD / DDR3 goodness before I drop my 939.

Judas · Jul 21, 2007

Im lost now whats AM2+?

adamdon89 · Jul 21, 2007

Judas said:
Im lost now whats AM2+?

Its just basically AM2 plus this:

The Wikipedia said:
HyperTransport 3.0 operating at up to 2 GHz

Split power planes: one for the CPU cores, and the other for the Integrated Memory controller (IMC). This will improve power savings especially with integrated graphics if CPU cores in sleep mode but the IMC still active.

Dippyskoodlez · Jul 21, 2007

HookeyStreet said:
AMD did state this from the beginning (that AM2 mobos will be upgradeable to AM3)

K10 should have a DDR2 and DDR3 memory controller on the CPU, so they should be "set" for a while when it comes to memory.

Jess Stingray · Jul 21, 2007

Excellent. Looks like I'll be getting quad-core after all.

Sovereign · Jul 21, 2007

mandelore said:
mines December, and yes, my thoughts exactly

the Q is tho, i have an a8r32-mvp delux 939 mobo with my opty 185, should i go am2, am2+ or am3? i wouldnt mind ddr3 if the prices drop and latencies to match

Since you don't already have an AM2 board or setup, I'd recommend just hanging onto your current system until the new AM2+ or AM3 boards hit the market. That way, you'll be able to take advantage of DDR3 memory without having to buy another motherboard again. Besides, it's not like your current Opty 185 setup is a slouch by any means...

breakfromyou · Jul 21, 2007

WarEagleAU said:
one of the new mobos for the phenom processor is supposed to have either the capability or actually be able to run DDR3 modules. Cant remember where I read about it though.

BTW, isnt Phenom also coming in socket 1207 for possibility of 8 execution cores? also.I hear tale of a socket 1207+ for these as well.

The socket AM2/AM2+ Phenom's will use DDR2. The socket AM3 AMD processors will use DDR2 or DDR3, depending on the motherboard/socket you use. AM2 and AM2+ = DDR2, AM3 = DDR3. AM3 processors will be backwards compatible with socket AM2 and AM2+ motherboards. It's a great idea to make everything compatible.

Phenom FX will be on 1207/1207+ (HT3.0 on 1207). Quad-FX might be decent with a pair of Phenom FX processors.

KBD · Jul 21, 2007

Are they going to make quad cores for AM2+/AM3 or that will be limited to socket 1207?

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