AMD Partners Cut Pricing of Radeon RX Vega 56 to Preempt GeForce GTX 1660 Ti

[cucker tarlson]

You guys miss the whole point.
Spending 100-200$ on GFX and getting a Freesync monitor with 165-40hz range is smarter than paying 100-200$ more to get a Gsync monitor with 165-30hz range instead.

depends what you want and how concerned you are with money really.
if you'd like ulmb and can pay for that feature then freesync monitors don't have that.

 

[Dimi]

And why would that really matter ?

If you have a game that swings from 30 fps to 165+, you have bigger problems than the range your Freesync monitors has. The matter of the fact is these things have been invented to be used when the hardware can't quite push enough frames as to be fully synchronized with the display not for when it can barley push playable framerates several times below the maximum refresh rate and where the frame times are very high anyway. This whole range thing has been beaten to death when in reality it matters little in real world use.

But what can I say I guess you will have a better 30fps cinematic experience on your G-sync monitor that most Freesync user do. I can't deny the validity of that claim.

Because some games run between 40-55 fps, some 80-100fps and then there's games that run between 120-165 fps. I will have adaptive sync on all 3 different games.

Then there's Freesync monitors, with the most common adaptive sync range of 48-75hz. Great if you can keep your fps between 48 and 75 fps, anything outside of that and there goes your adaptive sync unless you cap it of course.

 

[Xaled]

Because some games run between 40-55 fps, some 80-100fps and then there's games that run between 120-165 fps. I will have adaptive sync on all 3 different games.

Then there's Freesync monitors, with the most common adaptive sync range of 48-75hz. Great if you can keep your fps between 48 and 75 fps, anything outside of that and there goes your adaptive sync unless you cap it of course.

These monitors aren't bad because they are freesync. They are bad because of their range.

Can you blame a 1050 for not performing the same as 1080ti? You are doing so when putting all freesync monitors in the same category

 

[medi01]

AMD cut pricing of the Radeon RX Vega 56 in select markets

Is there any other market, than Germany and any other shop, than mindfactory, that did that?
Or is it really down to "mindfactory has crappiest Vega 56 ever released for under 300 Euro"?

 

[bug]

You guys miss the whole point.
Spending 100-200$ on GFX and getting a Freesync monitor with 165-40hz range is smarter than paying 100-200$ more to get a Gsync monitor with 165-30hz range instead.

That's not the point at all. The point is when you get a GSync monitor, you know it will work from 30fps. With FreeSync, you're lucky if the minimum is specified at all.
Whether that's worth the extra cost is a different discussion, of course.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Is there any other market, than Germany and any other shop, than mindfactory, that did that?
Or is it really down to "mindfactory has crappiest Vega 56 ever released for under 300 Euro"?

good question.
I've only seen the prices of vega 56 raise in Poland since last time I checked. Was 1550pln like two weeks ago,it's 1650pln now.

btw 1660ti launched at 1300pln here, for 1330 you can get a dual fan gigabyte card.

 

[Vya Domus]

I will have adaptive sync on all 3 different games.

You would have also paid about twice as much for it or more (probably a lot more) than your average 75 hz Freesync monitor. So your point boils down to : "This subset of cheaper products is worse than these other products that are on average also much more expensive". Cool.

 

[Dimi]

You would have also paid about twice as much for it than your average 75 hz Freesync monitor. So your point boils down to : "This subset of cheaper products is worse than these other products that are on average also more expensive". Cool.

Can you find me a similarly specced freesync alternative cheaper than 300$? 1440p 165hz 24" (i don't want a 27 inch monitor)

 

[Vya Domus]

Can you find me a similarly specced freesync alternative cheaper than 300$? 1440p 165hz 24" (i don't want a 27 inch monitor)

You can do the search yourself if that interests you, I don't care if there is one , I am sure there are plenty combinations that don't exist on either side at comparable prices. But that wasn't my point and neither does it have anything to do with your initial argument that Freesync monitors typically don't have a 30 Hz lower bound. Which is true for what that's worth, which isn't much.

 

[mtcn77]

So that if your game dips at 31 fps, the frame can still be presented to you in a timely manner.
Whenever your fps dips below the minimum supported refresh, VRR won't work, you'll get regular vsync instead. (edit: you get LFC if you're on FreeSync2)

Lol, FreeSync 2 is just HDR10 marketing by association. You have to give it to them, the first variant got +600 submissions.

It's really sad when people recommend running a product out of spec to make it acceptable.
Undervolting is not smart, it sacrifices reliability, and it's not something you can even guarantee will work.

You are coming as if adaptive clocking is not a feature. It would run this way by default if it were Nvidia branded - since when have you stopped voltage tuning?

 

[champsilva]

Hot? No.



Sure, I'll give you that one.

At least undervolting is there to solve both problems.

Well, how many gamers do undervolt? Not even 10%, also is a lottery.

This is a great deal considering you can undervolt and o/c and comes with a 3 game bundle. People like to bitch about anything.
Ps for you people complaining about the noise or w/e there ARE 3rd party cooling solutions.

Yeah, 3rd party solutions costing $400+. Nice pick, so $70 over 1660 Ti Strix, for same performance and more power consumption.

Good choice bro.

 

[jabbadap]

Is there any other market, than Germany and any other shop, than mindfactory, that did that?
Or is it really down to "mindfactory has crappiest Vega 56 ever released for under 300 Euro"?

Well anandtech asked AMD about that, it's not a price cut it's a limited time promotional sale.

Instead, AMD’s competitor for the GTX 1660 Ti looks like it will be the Radeon RX Vega 56. The company sent word last night that they are continuing to work with partners to offer lower promotional prices on the card, including a single model that was available for $279, but as of press time has since sold out. Notably, AMD is asserting that this is not a price drop, so there’s an unusual bit of fence sitting here; the company may be waiting to see what actual, retail GTX 1660 Ti card prices end up like. So I’m not wholly convinced we’re going to see too many $279 Vega 56 cards, but we’ll see. If nothing else, AMD’s Raise the Game Bundle is being offered, giving them an edge over NVIDIA in terms of pack-in games.

 

[champsilva]

Well anandtech asked AMD about that, it's not a price cut it's a limited time promotional sale.

Which is now over.

 

[Gasaraki]

You have a link to prove that about GSync? I don't like it because it's proprietary, but as far as I have read, the complaint was about FreeSync and how not having any requirements for supported refresh rates results in monitors that have practically unusable FreeSync implementations, but can still tick the feature on the box.

Don't listen to him. Just look up Battlenonsense on YT. Search G-sync vs freesync. G-sync is generally more stable and consistent due to standards that monitor manufacturers have to pass to get the g-sync module and G-Sync compatible sticker.

And why would that really matter ?

If you have a game that swings from 30 fps to 165+, you have bigger problems than the range your Freesync monitors has. The matter of the fact is these things have been invented to be used when the hardware can't quite push enough frames as to be fully synchronized with the display not for when it can barley push playable framerates several times below the maximum refresh rate and where the frame times are very high anyway. This whole range thing has been beaten to death when in reality it matters little in real world use.

But what can I say I guess you will have a better 30fps cinematic experience on your G-sync monitor that most Freesync user do. I can't deny the validity of that claim.

A lot of freesync monitor have a lower range of only 48fps. Under 48fps is certainly possible with tough games so...

 

[cucker tarlson]

Just look up Battlenonsense on YT.

thanks for that,looks like a very interesting channel,guy seems to care about the accuracy of his results.I'm getting tired of watching so many so called tech channels care more about making clickbait commentaries instead of focusing on working and delivering meaningful results.

 

[Kinestron]

Getting the Vega 56 down into the $250 range would be an insta-buy for me. Loving the competition in this range.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Which is now over.

Yep a momentary discount, piss poor all round, kinda like the original launch in fact, with the dodgy bundles and fake MSRP.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Would buy for spare rigs at that price, but no dice on finding any...

 

[Captain_Tom]

And why would that really matter ?

If you have a game that swings from 30 fps to 165+, you have bigger problems than the range your Freesync monitors has. The matter of the fact is these things have been invented to be used when the hardware can't quite push enough frames as to be fully synchronized with the display not for when it can barley push playable framerates several times below the maximum refresh rate and where the frame times are very high anyway. This whole range thing has been beaten to death when in reality it matters little in real world use.

But what can I say I guess you will have a better 30fps cinematic experience on your G-sync monitor that most Freesync user do. I can't deny the validity of that claim.

I feel like I keep seeing more and more illogical arguments from fanboys on here. Just don't bother talking to someone complaining that Freesync stopped working at 48Hz while gaming at 165Hz lol.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Luckily Nvidia users get the choice of both now, in this news piece about Vega 56 still being overpriced.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Where is this price slash happening...If anything the price has literally gone up since I seen that they are dropping in price

 

[Captain_Tom]

Luckily Nvidia users get the choice of both now, in this news piece about Vega 56 still being overpriced.

Unless they were dumb enough to buy a bulky gsync monitor...then they are still forced to get only a green option. And it smells like a lot of people here swore a blood oath to green a long time ago lol.

Where is this price slash happening...If anything the price has literally gone up since I seen that they are dropping in price

It was already close to $300 honestly, and V56 was always selling out quickly at those prices. Not AMD's fault if people keep buying them before they ever get down to $280.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Where is this price slash happening...If anything the price has literally gone up since I seen that they are dropping in price

It's a fake AMD BS gimmick for like one day only, they can't really cut prices anymore, they need Wong to pull his finger out and get Navi on the market ASAP. 12nm RX 590 offers horrendous performance per watt, Vega 56 and Vega VII are probably losing them money at this point in their desperate attempt to remain competitive.

It's a sad situation.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

It's a fake AMD BS gimmick for like one day only, they can't really cut prices anymore, they need Wong to pull his finger out and get Navi on the market ASAP. 12nm RX 590 offers horrendous performance per watt, Vega 56 and Vega VII are probably losing them money at this point in their desperate attempt to remain competitive.

It's a sad situation.

Yeah..I ended up finding 1 MSI model on Newegg that was sold out.. Didn't even have an Auto Notify or anything.
I'm left wondering if perhaps they sold the SINGLE ONE left in stock for that price...
Not worth anything more than $270... Sorry AMD it just isn't...recoup what you can and keep some Fucking dignity.
Looking pretty pathetic in my opinion.

 

[efikkan]

It's a fake AMD BS gimmick for like one day only, they can't really cut prices anymore, they need Wong to pull his finger out and get Navi on the market ASAP. 12nm RX 590 offers horrendous performance per watt, Vega 56 and Vega VII are probably losing them money at this point in their desperate attempt to remain competitive.

It's a sad situation.

So much for AMD being the "good guys"…
It seems like all the vendors are jerks to the customers these days; like i7-8086K and i9-9990XE, you want it but you can't have it. And the jury is still out on AMD shipping volumes of Radeon VII.

Speaking of Navi, I'm afraid there is little that can be rushed this far in the development cycle.