• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Intel Core i9-9900F Makes an Appearance in SiSoft Sandra: No iGPU, No Unlocked Multiplier

Raevenlord

News Editor
Joined
Aug 12, 2016
Messages
3,755 (1.23/day)
Location
Portugal
System Name The Ryzening
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard MSI X570 MAG TOMAHAWK
Cooling Lian Li Galahad 360mm AIO
Memory 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z F4-3733 (4x 8 GB)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 3070 Ti
Storage Boot: Transcend MTE220S 2TB, Kintson A2000 1TB, Seagate Firewolf Pro 14 TB
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG270UP (1440p 144 Hz IPS)
Case Lian Li O11DX Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) iFi Audio Zen DAC
Power Supply Seasonic Focus+ 750 W
Mouse Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Keyboard Cooler Master Masterkeys Lite L
Software Windows 10 x64
Intel has been playing with the release of multiple of their 14 nm ++ processors without any integrated graphics tech, such as the Intel Core i5-9400F, or the iGPU-less, unlocked Core i9-9900KF. However, as strange as it may seem, a quick look online still shows the i9-9900KF selling for more ($582.50) than its complete i9-9900 sibling.

The Core i9-9900F, as caught in SiSoft's Sandra, is likely simply a locked-down version of Intel's Core i9-9900, since delidding of Intel's Core i5-9400F has shown that the silicon real-estate for the iGPU is still there - as such, this likely isn't an effort from Intel to reduce the silicon used for graphics and pass on the savings to customers. At the most, this is Intel launching products that may carry defective iGPUs from the production process and still be able to sell them - though Intel does seem to be looking not to budge on its profit margin, even on these "crippled" CPUs.





The 9900F should feature the same eight-core, 16-thread design and 16 MB L3 cache and a locked multiplier, but as reported by SiSoftware, its clockspeeds could have taken a hit as well: according to the software, the i9-9900F features a 3.1 GHz base clock speed, some 500 MHz lower than the "K" and "KF" variants. However, the chip does seem to be able to reach 5 GHz on two cores and 4.8 GHz on four cores. Either that or incorrect reporting from the software itself - or even the fact that the CPU is being run at non-final clockspeeds. Anyway, it seems that Intel really is looking to expand its CPU offerings without any iGPU - though the fact that this seems to have no effect on the price-tag whatsoever is slightly bemusing.

View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Messages
7,412 (2.75/day)
Location
Poland
System Name Purple rain
Processor 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v
Motherboard Zee 490 Aorus Elite
Cooling Noctua D15S
Memory 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB
Display(s) Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG
Case P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans
Audio Device(s) K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless
Power Supply Superflower Leadex Gold 850W
Mouse G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest
Keyboard HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores A LOT
K is for unlocked and F is for we have no idea what we're doing.
 
Joined
Aug 2, 2012
Messages
2,017 (0.45/day)
Location
Netherlands
System Name TheDeeGee's PC
Processor Intel Core i7-11700
Motherboard ASRock Z590 Steel Legend
Cooling Noctua NH-D15S
Memory Crucial Ballistix 3200/C16 32GB
Video Card(s) Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti 12GB
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 2TB / Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
Display(s) EIZO CX240
Case Lian-Li O11 Dynamic Evo XL / Noctua NF-A12x25 fans
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster ZXR / AKG K601 Headphones
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME Fanless TX-700
Mouse Logitech G500S
Keyboard Keychron Q6
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores None, as long as my games runs smooth.
The only budging that's going to happen is people switching to AMD this year.
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2019
Messages
201 (0.10/day)
Location
over the HoRYZEN
System Name Not an Intel Piece of Shite
Processor Superior AMD Glorious Master Race 2700SEX
Motherboard Glorious low cost Awesome Motherboard 4
Cooling A piece of metal that cools the amazing Ryzen CPU
Memory SAMMY BEEE DAI BABEH
Video Card(s) Turding
Storage irelevant
Display(s) monitor
Case It's red because AMD = red and AMD = awesome
Power Supply 1000W,. but not needed as Glorious RYZEN CPU is extremely afficient unlike that recylced 14nm++ Junk
Mouse *gets cat*
Keyboard RUHGUBUH!
Software Not Linux
Benchmark Scores Higher than Intel shite
Intel's greed knows no bounds.
 
Joined
Apr 7, 2011
Messages
1,380 (0.28/day)
System Name Desktop
Processor Intel Xeon E5-1680v2
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth X79
Cooling Intel AIO
Memory 8x4GB DDR3 1866MHz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 970 SC
Storage Crucial MX500 1TB + 2x WD RE 4TB HDD
Display(s) HP ZR24w
Case Fractal Define XL Black
Audio Device(s) Schiit Modi Uber/Sony CDP-XA20ES/Pioneer CT-656>Sony TA-F630ESD>Sennheiser HD600
Power Supply Corsair HX850
Mouse Logitech G603
Keyboard Logitech G613
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
Only Zen can save us.
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2018
Messages
911 (0.38/day)
Location
Al Balqa', Jordan
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (Covered with Cooler Master MasterGel Pro)
Motherboard ASRock B450 Steel Legend, BIOS Version: 10.31 [Beta]
Cooling Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L V2 RGB, 5x Galax Vortex Wind-02 (3x Front Intake + 2x Top exhaust)
Memory Kingston FURY Beast RGB 3600 MT/s 32 GB (4x 8GB), (KF436C17BBA/8)
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Dual OC
Storage Kingston NV2 1 TB
Display(s) MSI PRO M251 (HDMI), Running @104 Hz
Case Cooler Master MasterBox MB520
Audio Device(s) HP H360G USB
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE 550 80+ White
Mouse HP G200 Black
Keyboard Redragon MITRA K551-1 RGB
Software Windows 11 Home
Joined
Jun 28, 2016
Messages
3,595 (1.16/day)
I'm surprised people criticize these CPUs and praise AMD at the same time.
Intel is doing this because of AMD. Because until Zen came out no one thought that so many people would be willing to pay for a high-end consumer CPU without an IGP.
 
Joined
Jun 15, 2016
Messages
1,042 (0.33/day)
Location
Pristina
System Name My PC
Processor 4670K@4.4GHz
Motherboard Gryphon Z87
Cooling CM 212
Memory 2x8GB+2x4GB @2400GHz
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon RX 580 GTS Black Edition 1425MHz OC+, 8GB
Storage Intel 530 SSD 480GB + Intel 510 SSD 120GB + 2x500GB hdd raid 1
Display(s) HP envy 32 1440p
Case CM Mastercase 5
Audio Device(s) Sbz ZXR
Power Supply Antec 620W
Mouse G502
Keyboard G910
Software Win 10 pro
F is for failed..
 
Joined
Sep 4, 2013
Messages
76 (0.02/day)
System Name JUV3
Processor Intel Core i5 9400F
Motherboard EVGA Z370 Classified K
Cooling NoFan CR-95C Copper
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2070
Storage WD_Black SN750
Display(s) AOC AGON AG273QX
Case Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s) Topping DX3 Pro+ with Beyerdynamic Amiron Home
Power Supply Seasonic Platinum Fanless
Mouse Logitech G Pro X Ultralight
Keyboard Durgod Taurus K320 with Cherry Silent Red switches
Because until Zen came out no one thought that so many people would be willing to pay for a high-end consumer CPU without an IGP.
I don't think there was any doubt that high-end consumers use dedicated graphics, but it's still a valid point. 9th-gen "F" and Ryzen 3000 will be more similar than past lineups.

Anyone remember LucidLogix Virtu? I think what this really stems back to is hybrid graphics that Intel envisioned would be the future. Instead, new GPUs started pulling off tricks like near zero idle power, hardware encoding (e.g. Nvidia NVENC), etc.
 
Joined
Jan 17, 2018
Messages
440 (0.17/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling Noctua U12S
Memory 32GB @ 3600 CL18
Video Card(s) AMD 6800XT
Storage WD Black SN850(1TB), WD Black NVMe 2018(500GB), WD Blue SATA(2TB)
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G9
Case Be Quiet! Silent Base 802
Power Supply Seasonic PRIME-GX-1000
I'm surprised people criticize these CPUs and praise AMD at the same time.
Intel is doing this because of AMD. Because until Zen came out no one thought that so many people would be willing to pay for a high-end consumer CPU without an IGP.

The majority of people buying a high-end consumer desktop CPU absolutely don't need an IGP, and may never use the IGP in the entire lifetime of their PC.

The criticism comes from the pricing of these F-series CPU's. The 9400F & 9600KF are the same price as their IGP'd counterparts, so you get less but pay the same price. Seems like a valid criticism from a consumer standpoint to me.
 

Space Lynx

Astronaut
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
17,425 (4.69/day)
Location
Kepler-186f
Processor 7800X3D -25 all core
Motherboard B650 Steel Legend
Cooling Frost Commander 140
Video Card(s) Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v
Display(s) Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p
Case NZXT H710 (Red/Black)
Audio Device(s) Asgard 2, Modi 3, HD58X
Power Supply Corsair RM850x Gold
The majority of people buying a high-end consumer desktop CPU absolutely don't need an IGP, and may never use the IGP in the entire lifetime of their PC.

The criticism comes from the pricing of these F-series CPU's. The 9400F & 9600KF are the same price as their IGP'd counterparts, so you get less but pay the same price. Seems like a valid criticism from a consumer standpoint to me.

yep the fact the price is not cheaper makes no sense to me... Intel can shove off at this point.
 
Joined
Jun 28, 2016
Messages
3,595 (1.16/day)
I don't think there was any doubt that high-end consumers use dedicated graphics, but it's still a valid point.
I think there's a risk we don't use the same terminology.
If by "consumers" we mean people that buy these CPUs for private use, than yes - most will be used with a graphics card. A powerful GPU is the main reason to own a desktop.
But if we mean "consumer CPUs" (LGA1151) then no, a big chunk of these CPUs will be put into business workstations and almost all will need an IGP.

These -F CPUs are made precisely to compete with Ryzens in the consumer market. Until now Intel didn't offer them, because there was no need. CPUs with bad IGP where called Xeons. Now they're moved to consumer platform to make it more affordable.
8400 costs $200, but 9400F is $170, so it can compete with Ryzen 5 2600 ($165).

The majority of people buying a high-end consumer desktop CPU absolutely don't need an IGP, and may never use the IGP in the entire lifetime of their PC.
Mentioned above. "Consumer" == "home user" vs "consumer" == "consumer platform". A big chunk of i5/i7 are bought by offices, schools etc.
The criticism comes from the pricing of these F-series CPU's. The 9400F & 9600KF are the same price as their IGP'd counterparts, so you get less but pay the same price. Seems like a valid criticism from a consumer standpoint to me.
The same MSRP - yes (I've checked on Intel ARK). The same price on the market? No. 9400F is 20% cheaper.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 6, 2018
Messages
342 (0.15/day)
Location
Hungary
Processor i5-9600K
Motherboard ASUS Prime Z390-A
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition PWM
Memory G.Skill DDR4 RipjawsV 3200MHz 16GB kit
Video Card(s) Asus RTX2060 ROG STRIX GAMING
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500
Power Supply SUPER FLOWER Leadex Gold 650W
Mouse BenQ Zowie FK1+-B
Keyboard Cherry KC 1000
Software Win 10
I'm surprised people criticize these CPUs and praise AMD at the same time.
Intel is doing this because of AMD. Because until Zen came out no one thought that so many people would be willing to pay for a high-end consumer CPU without an IGP.

so true

The majority of people buying a high-end consumer desktop CPU absolutely don't need an IGP, and may never use the IGP in the entire lifetime of their PC.

The criticism comes from the pricing of these F-series CPU's. The 9400F & 9600KF are the same price as their IGP'd counterparts, so you get less but pay the same price. Seems like a valid criticism from a consumer standpoint to me.

I'm in an RMA process and will be running off my iGPU for probably 3 to 4 weeks. I for one will never buy an iGPU-less CPU
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2015
Messages
555 (0.16/day)
Location
In the middle of nowhere
System Name Scrapped Parts, Unite !
Processor Ryzen 5 3600 @4.0 Ghz
Motherboard MSI B450-A Pro MAX
Cooling Stock
Memory Team Group Elite 16 GB 3133Mhz
Video Card(s) Colorful iGame GeForce GTX1060 Vulcan U 6G
Storage Hitachi 500 GB, Sony 1TB, KINGSTON 400A 120GB // Samsung 160 GB
Display(s) HP 2009f
Case Xigmatek Asgard Pro // Cooler Master Centurion 5
Power Supply OCZ ModXStream Pro 500 W
Mouse Logitech G102
Software Windows 10 x64
Benchmark Scores Minesweeper 30fps, Tetris 40 fps, with overheated CPU and GPU
Intel i9 9900KF....C? where is C suffix?
 

FreedomEclipse

~Technological Technocrat~
Joined
Apr 20, 2007
Messages
24,168 (3.74/day)
Location
London,UK
System Name WorkInProgress
Processor AMD 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI X670E GAMING PLUS
Cooling Thermalright AM5 Contact Frame + Phantom Spirit 120SE
Memory 2x32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000 CL32-38-38-96
Video Card(s) Asus Dual Radeon™ RX 6700 XT OC Edition
Storage WD SN770 1TB (Boot)|1x WD SN850X 8TB (Gaming) | 2x2TB WD SN770| 2x2TB+2x4TB Crucial BX500
Display(s) LG GP850-B
Case Corsair 760T (White) {1xCorsair ML120 Pro|5xML140 Pro}
Audio Device(s) Yamaha RX-V573|Speakers: JBL Control One|Auna 300-CN|Wharfedale Diamond SW150
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-850 80+ GOLD
Mouse Logitech G502 X
Keyboard Duckyshine Dead LED(s) III
Software Windows 11 Home
Benchmark Scores ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,760 (1.39/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals
I don't understand. How come a CPU that is missing the graphic cores cost the same or more than the one that has them?!?!?
Is it able to OC better or has lower temps? Can anyone clarify?
Thanks.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
14,170 (3.81/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name H7 Flow 2024
Processor AMD 5800X3D
Motherboard Asus X570 Tough Gaming
Cooling Custom liquid
Memory 32 GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Intel ARC A750
Storage Crucial P5 Plus 2TB.
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Mouse Lenovo
Keyboard Eweadn Mechanical
Software W11 Pro 64 bit
Joined
Mar 11, 2019
Messages
201 (0.10/day)
Location
over the HoRYZEN
System Name Not an Intel Piece of Shite
Processor Superior AMD Glorious Master Race 2700SEX
Motherboard Glorious low cost Awesome Motherboard 4
Cooling A piece of metal that cools the amazing Ryzen CPU
Memory SAMMY BEEE DAI BABEH
Video Card(s) Turding
Storage irelevant
Display(s) monitor
Case It's red because AMD = red and AMD = awesome
Power Supply 1000W,. but not needed as Glorious RYZEN CPU is extremely afficient unlike that recylced 14nm++ Junk
Mouse *gets cat*
Keyboard RUHGUBUH!
Software Not Linux
Benchmark Scores Higher than Intel shite
so true



I'm in an RMA process and will be running off my iGPU for probably 3 to 4 weeks. I for one will never buy an iGPU-less CPU
You do realise you could buy a GT 1030 with a 2700X and it'd still be cheaper than a 9700K? Lol...

I don't understand. How come a CPU that is missing the graphic cores cost the same or more than the one that has them?!?!?
Is it able to OC better or has lower temps? Can anyone clarify?
Thanks.
Because Profitz. Intel is not passing the saving down to the consumer:)
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2018
Messages
342 (0.15/day)
Location
Hungary
Processor i5-9600K
Motherboard ASUS Prime Z390-A
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition PWM
Memory G.Skill DDR4 RipjawsV 3200MHz 16GB kit
Video Card(s) Asus RTX2060 ROG STRIX GAMING
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500
Power Supply SUPER FLOWER Leadex Gold 650W
Mouse BenQ Zowie FK1+-B
Keyboard Cherry KC 1000
Software Win 10
You do realise you could buy a GT 1030 with a 2700X and it'd still be cheaper than a 9700K? Lol...



My i5 9600k cost $292
2700x costs 357$ in my country.
Also, 9600k beats 2700x pretty bad, is less power hungry, less heat and more compatible with RAM

8 cores is a gimmick too, I'm not rendering nor streaming so why get a meme AMD processor?
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2019
Messages
201 (0.10/day)
Location
over the HoRYZEN
System Name Not an Intel Piece of Shite
Processor Superior AMD Glorious Master Race 2700SEX
Motherboard Glorious low cost Awesome Motherboard 4
Cooling A piece of metal that cools the amazing Ryzen CPU
Memory SAMMY BEEE DAI BABEH
Video Card(s) Turding
Storage irelevant
Display(s) monitor
Case It's red because AMD = red and AMD = awesome
Power Supply 1000W,. but not needed as Glorious RYZEN CPU is extremely afficient unlike that recylced 14nm++ Junk
Mouse *gets cat*
Keyboard RUHGUBUH!
Software Not Linux
Benchmark Scores Higher than Intel shite


My i5 9600k cost $292
2700x costs 357$ in my country.
Also, 9600k beats 2700 pretty bad, is less power hungry, less heat and more compatible with RAM

8 cores is a gimmick too, I'm not rendering nor streaming so why get a meme AMD processor?

5% faster. Yup! That's pretty bad beating right there! Your 6T CPU is already starting to stutter in some games. 2600+ will have no such issue. 2700X is geared towards folk who need the extra multi-processor performance, where it will just crush the 9600K. Factor in your cooler which the 2700X comes with, oh and i'm not even going to state the value proposition of the 2600X compared to your 6T turd.

Tools like you are what's wrong with the entire PC hardware market.

But that's off topic.
 
Joined
Dec 6, 2018
Messages
342 (0.15/day)
Location
Hungary
Processor i5-9600K
Motherboard ASUS Prime Z390-A
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition PWM
Memory G.Skill DDR4 RipjawsV 3200MHz 16GB kit
Video Card(s) Asus RTX2060 ROG STRIX GAMING
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500
Power Supply SUPER FLOWER Leadex Gold 650W
Mouse BenQ Zowie FK1+-B
Keyboard Cherry KC 1000
Software Win 10
Your 6T CPU is already starting to stutter in some games.

nice lie. read the review conclusion, it's on par with i7 and if you believe that an i5 9600k struggles in any game than your fanboizm is clouding your judgement
 
Joined
Mar 11, 2019
Messages
201 (0.10/day)
Location
over the HoRYZEN
System Name Not an Intel Piece of Shite
Processor Superior AMD Glorious Master Race 2700SEX
Motherboard Glorious low cost Awesome Motherboard 4
Cooling A piece of metal that cools the amazing Ryzen CPU
Memory SAMMY BEEE DAI BABEH
Video Card(s) Turding
Storage irelevant
Display(s) monitor
Case It's red because AMD = red and AMD = awesome
Power Supply 1000W,. but not needed as Glorious RYZEN CPU is extremely afficient unlike that recylced 14nm++ Junk
Mouse *gets cat*
Keyboard RUHGUBUH!
Software Not Linux
Benchmark Scores Higher than Intel shite
Top