Apple Announces Groundbreaking Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

[erixx]

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[Zareek]

You gotta love Apple's marketing. They are so good, they make it sounds like they are almost losing money selling a 32" 6K monitor for $5,000! Oh and then you can accessorize your insanely expensive display with a $1000 stand or save a few bucks on a $200 VESA mount. WTF!!! People are still falling for this crap...

Unlike it seems most people here, I actually think it looks nice. Apple has designed their products form over function for years now. This thing looks decent and internally it is setup to properly cool itself. I think that might be a first for Apple.

 

[windwhirl]

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"Hey! It doesn't have wheels!"

"Those are optional. It's 200 USD extra if you want them"

 

[RH92]

"Hey! It doesn't have wheels!"

"Those are optional. It's 200 USD extra if you want them"

You forgot to add an extra 0 there

 

[kapone32]

With a 28 core Xeon processor, 2 Vega II cards and the amount of pixels a 6K screen must require you will not even have to turn your furnace on in the winter, with the amount of heat the cooling array will fail to keep in check.

 

[Zareek]

With a 28 core Xeon processor, 2 Vega II cards and the amount of pixels a 6K screen must require you will not even have to turn your furnace on in the winter, with the amount of heat the cooling array will fail to keep in check.

At full load, turn this thing around and you have a nice space heater! You might need to give it a dedicated circuit too, I bet it will pull 10-12 amps on 110v at the wall.

 

[kapone32]

At full load, turn this thing around and you have a nice space heater! You might need to give it a dedicated circuit too, I bet it will pull 10-12 amps on 110v at the wall.

Yep and make sure you get a certified electrician to run a 20 AMP circuit connected to the panel. YOu might not even be able to use a toaster while this thing is on

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Impressed by the geometry used to create the high airflow & low noise required by Apple. Enough airflow to accommodate up to 1.2 kilowatts continuous use at full speed while keeping a low noise profile.

Works with the rack mount case option too, so less components to manage.

 

[Valantar]

At full load, turn this thing around and you have a nice space heater! You might need to give it a dedicated circuit too, I bet it will pull 10-12 amps on 110v at the wall.

They say it has a 1400W PSU (though the same slide says it's rated for ~1250W continuous output, which is ... not 1400). The Vega II Dual cards are 500W each. The CPU is a 255W Xeon (with a purportedly 300W-capable heatsink, so it might turbo above 255W). So yes, a kitted out version of this will pull at least 10-12A on 110V. Though frankly, if you can afford a kitted-out version of this, you can afford to remodel your office every second week. That configuration is likely to be mid-five digits territory. Remember that the base config ($6000) has a 256GB SSD and an RX580-ish GPU.

 

[kapone32]

They say it has a 1400W PSU (though the same slide says it's rated for ~1250W continuous output, which is ... not 1400). The Vega II Dual cards are 500W each. The CPU is a 255W Xeon (with a purportedly 300W-capable heatsink, so it might turbo above 255W). So yes, a kitted out version of this will pull at least 10-12A on 110V. Though frankly, if you can afford a kitted-out version of this, you can afford to remodel your office every second week. That configuration is likely to be mid-five digits territory. Remember that the base config ($6000) has a 256GB SSD and an RX580-ish GPU.

So it will cost you about 14,000 for the top model then?

 

[juiseman]

Seems like they should have included a 1600w-1800w PSU then??

At the wall measurements would surprise you.
It was always lower than what i was expecting.

So it will cost you about 14,000 for the top model then?

I would say more; a lot more if i had to guess....

 

[kapone32]

Seems like they should have included a 1600w-1800w PSU then??

At the wall measurements would surprise you.
It was always lower than what i was expecting.




I would say more; a lot more if i had to guess....

So basically you could buy about 5 4 year old used cars for one of these

 

[Valantar]

So it will cost you about 14,000 for the top model then?

Five digits is 10 000 - 99 999. Mid-five digits is thus ~50 000 (well, technically ~55 000). Given that they're charging $6000 for what amounts to a ~$1500 config (that's if you DIY it with a Xeon, more like $900-1000 if you go Ryzen with matching specs), it's to be expected that anything using a $10 000 28-core Xeon and four Radeon VII 32GB Vega II Pro GPUs alongside ... what was it, 1.5TB of ECC DDR4 is going to cost a ridiculous amount of money. Even if we lower the Apple tax from its baseline level of ~4x price as seen above, a $10 000 CPU + four ~$1000 GPUs (likely more, given the Pro labeling and likely addition of pro-level driver support, not to mention the added price of doubling the VRAM from the VII), quite a few thousand dollars of RAM, and all the bells and whistles - this is going to cost a pretty penny. At a 2x Apple Tax from equivalent off-the-shelf parts, you'd likely be looking at $40 000, if not more.

Seems like they should have included a 1600w-1800w PSU then??

At the wall measurements would surprise you.
It was always lower than what i was expecting.

Few workloads tax both CPU and GPU concurrently at 100% over time, so 1250W sustained is likely perfectly fine even with two "500" GPUs and a 255W CPU. Heck, the motherboard and PSU are both fully custom, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it all just throttled slightly to keep within safe power limits. Apple doesn't mind throttling, after all.

 

[Blueberries]

Big oof.

As much as I'd love a 6k Retina display I'd probably settle for a 4k 120hz panel at the 5 large they're asking.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

true productivity wise you don't need a 6K square screen with design cues from a few years ago... I rather settle with a 5K 32:9 monitor that LG or Dell is currently offering. Those are more worthy investment imo.

 

[Valantar]

Big oof.

As much as I'd love a 6k Retina display I'd probably settle for a 4k 120hz panel at the 5 large they're asking.

Pretty sure you could get around 2-2.5 of those for that price.

true productivity wise you don't need a 6K square screen with design cues from a few years ago... I rather settle with a 5K 32:9 monitor that LG or Dell is currently offering. Those are more worthy investment imo.

Depends on your needs - if you want non-scaled 4k for your preview window, the monitors you're describing can't do that. (They're 2x 2560x1440, right?) I think Apple are right in framing this as a replacement for >$20 000 reference monitors - in that case, the value is astounding. For most other users, it'll be a let-down.

Also, do TB3 monitors require TB3, or do they accept DP-in over type-C alt mode? Would this accept a signal from a VirtualLink port?

 

[r.h.p]

Eh, I think it's kinda cool.

Although if I had the money, I wouldn't spend it on a Mac Pro. Don't have the workloads to even consider it and by the price I could probably get something far more powerful.

yeah i must agree i like it . till the Cheesie box was bought up i never saw it ...damn anyway that duel Radeon card seems good

 

[ensabrenoir]

.....say what you wanna....but the specs on this thing is ridiculous. I find it hard to consider it a consumer product, its a professional level machine......and because its apple.....someone is gonna buy it. Long live the desk top

 

[AltCapwn]

lol 5k$ for a 32 inch monitor, is that a joke?

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for only 1k$

 

[SL2]

lol 5k$ for a 32 inch monitor, is that a joke?

You missed the other specs, i.e the very reason why it cost that much. (besides being Apple)

 

[Zareek]

You missed the other specs, i.e the very reason why it cost that much. (besides being Apple)

You mean we missed what Apple says makes it ground breaking! Apple is the king of technology marketing, they make unsubstantiated claims more than anyone in any industry. That being said, I'm sure it is beautiful but until a few third parties crown it as the most beautiful display the world has ever seen, I will laugh at the people willing to buy it. Oh wait, I will still laugh at the people buying it because there is no way in hell I would ever pay that much for a 32" monitor. For $5000 it better come equipped with a steering wheel!

 

[ironwolf]

For $5000 it better come equipped with a steering wheel!

Like the fancy schmancy stand, probably a $1000 addon.

 

[Devon68]

The Legend has it : That the stand is made from vibranium and it will last at least 1000 years.

That back grate on the monitor looks ridiculous but I hope at least it helps with cooling.

 

[juiseman]

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That looks so awesomely overkill...lol...love it!!!

 

[Valantar]

You mean we missed what Apple says makes it ground breaking! Apple is the king of technology marketing, they make unsubstantiated claims more than anyone in any industry. That being said, I'm sure it is beautiful but until a few third parties crown it as the most beautiful display the world has ever seen, I will laugh at the people willing to buy it. Oh wait, I will still laugh at the people buying it because there is no way in hell I would ever pay that much for a 32" monitor. For $5000 it better come equipped with a steering wheel!

Apple are great at marketing, yes, but those specs beat any monitor out there (though not in refresh rate or response times, obviously). The marketing here is mainly just a spec sheet plus some adjectives. And, frankly, Apple's monitor history (unlike their PC history) is quite impeccable even if they failed to update their old cinema display for ages. Of course people should wait for reviews, but there's very little doubt this will be an amazing display for its intended applications - and even great value for those doing color-critical work, if it can match or beat reference monitors like they say.