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Intel "Comet Lake" Not Before 2020, "Ice Lake-S" Not Before Q3-2020, Roadmap Suggests

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IO on 7DUV is probably the next logical step, it'll likely be cheap by then.

Well maybe not the ICOD (I/O controller die), but the chipset. Fan-heatsinks make for bad PR. If they can rebuild that chipset on 7 nm DUV with a TDP target of, say, 8W, they can make do with passive cooling.
 
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Salt required in both cases. Lots, and lots of salt. So much salt even, you could also go for a swim in the Dead Sea.

All credible sources point to Intel being utterly confused about their line up and roadmaps, and there have been no real announcements lately, so, that is what we have. Nothing.
 
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In my 20+ years of cpu building and such I have never seen Intel seem this bad, I don't think I've ever really seen them behind like this....ugh, I'm buying a 3600x more than likely BUT this is not good for anyone really in my opinion.

Pentium D era was really bad for them as well
 
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Ice lake before end of 2021 on desktop? Not happening unless it's quad cores or on 14nm lol
 
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I swear they must have a flowchart which they take out every time they need to work out a new strategy which always leads to "we need a new socket/chipset".

I can only wish them good luck with that.
 
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New tech announcements to make the just released tech obsolete? Well this is a first in PC hardware....
 
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In my 20+ years of cpu building and such I have never seen Intel seem this bad, I don't think I've ever really seen them behind like this....ugh, I'm buying a 3600x more than likely BUT this is not good for anyone really in my opinion.

its been the other way around for a while now, from Core 2 Duo until now really.
So it will be fine.
 
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In my 20+ years of cpu building and such I have never seen Intel seem this bad, I don't think I've ever really seen them behind like this....ugh, I'm buying a 3600x more than likely BUT this is not good for anyone really in my opinion.

Not really, because Intel still superior in some scenarios. If AMD could have waited 3 months more and squeeze 4,5ghz clocks ALL cores on these chips, then yeah, Intel would be in a place that you didn´t see for a long time.. I wish AMD waited a bit longer and had a more refined 7nm. The chips come out of the box on their limit already. With their superior IPC and threads, they would win in games aswell (high refresh scenarios).
 
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I wonder how Kyle Bennet will spin this.
 
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Intel has the better arch since 2017 (Ice Lake) but is held back by their own fabs. Desktop 10nm is just a dream and they'll most likely jump straight to 7nm when it's ready. Zen 3 will probably remain unchallenged in 2020-2021.
 
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Kind of like how Zen 2 begs to be overclocked?

They said it would BEG to be overclocked... not that it actually would do it. It really wants to though. Really does.
 
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Not really, because Intel still superior in some scenarios. If AMD could have waited 3 months more and squeeze 4,5ghz clocks ALL cores on these chips, then yeah, Intel would be in a place that you didn´t see for a long time.. I wish AMD waited a bit longer and had a more refined 7nm. The chips come out of the box on their limit already. With their superior IPC and threads, they would win in games aswell (high refresh scenarios).
3900x has brutal temps at merely stock clock. 3950x? Forget it about it... 7nm doesn't look like the magic pill that allows high core counts with high clock speeds. I can now see why Threadripper got axed for this year's roadmap... wait for 7nm+.
 
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I can now see why Threadripper got axed for this year's roadmap... wait for 7nm+.
There have been mulltiple official confirmations from AMD that Threadripper 3000 is still happening this year.
 
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3900x has brutal temps at merely stock clock. 3950x? Forget it about it... 7nm doesn't look like the magic pill that allows high core counts with high clock speeds. I can now see why Threadripper got axed for this year's roadmap... wait for 7nm+.

the ability to add more cores has exceeded the ability to cool them.. :)

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Now, if this starts becoming an AMD monopoly, it will not be funny.
God damn it Intel, why so useless now?
 
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3900x has brutal temps at merely stock clock. 3950x? Forget it about it... 7nm doesn't look like the magic pill that allows high core counts with high clock speeds. I can now see why Threadripper got axed for this year's roadmap... wait for 7nm+.

It's almost like cramming more than 8 physical cores into a desktop-sized package is a challenge... yet AMD has a 12-core desktop CPU available today while Intel has 8 cores, and AMD will have a 16-core model available before Intel's "competing" 10-core CPU launches.
 
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Probably could care a less... He does not work for Intel anymore, he has more important family matters to take care of.
I thought he went to work for Intel just last March. You mean he only spent 4 months there after hardocp?
 
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Intel at least should offer a refresh something like i9-9950K couple hundred more base clock, and more boost clock and perhaps they can tweak performance. They can do this on i9, i7 and i5 models.
 

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All I got is "we still can't make Ice Lake CPU for yet another year".
One more push for me to upgrade this fall.
 
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Intel at least should offer a refresh something like i9-9950K couple hundred more base clock, and more boost clock and perhaps they can tweak performance. They can do this on i9, i7 and i5 models.

you mean work some miracles.. just add a couple more heat generating cores.. clock them a bit higher and still control the heat.. yeh right.. he he

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