MSI MAX AM4 Boards Real: 32MB BIOS ROMs and Ryzen 3000 Out-of-the-Box Support

biffzinker · Jul 19, 2019

Deathy said:
and the non-GUI UEFI is pretty much a bonus im my mind, mouse support was never great in any GUI UEFI I've used.

Mouse support is still included.

hojnikb · Jul 19, 2019

I'd happily take the DOS like interface, as long as features are still there. It's not like you're looking at bios screens all day.

olymind1 · Jul 19, 2019

Metroid said:
The problem may lie ahead, you will be stuck with that bios and any future updates to it even if there are unfixable things cause it requires a larger bios. Raid support is broken, msi says it will return, not sure about that.

MSI B450 Tomahawk v19 bios changlog says: - Fix RAID issue.

hat · Jul 19, 2019

If I'm not mistaken, the issue was that, in the face of AMD saying Socket AM4 would be supported through 2020, some board manufacturers used smaller ROM chips than they should have, which created problems with Ryzen 3xxx compatibility. Thank God these board manufacturers have stepped up to solve this issue by selling new motherboards... :kookoo:

shmuck · Jul 19, 2019

Hope this does not mean they are now done with updates for the non-max Tomahawk...

Wavetrex · Jul 19, 2019

Somebody at AMD forgot to send AGESA code through zlib.
What could be the reason for it growing so much? 3000 series work just fine on 1.0.0.2 too...

Wouldn't surprise me if they release 1.0.0.4 later which is back to the size of 1.0.0.2 (or near), so all 16mb boards can be updated again without any issue.

Metroid · Jul 19, 2019

olymind1 said:
MSI B450 Tomahawk v19 bios changlog says: - Fix RAID issue.

Version 7C02v19
Release Date 2019-07-10

msi b450 gaming plus still on v18, that is good news.

zlobby · Jul 19, 2019

hat said:
If I'm not mistaken, the issue was that, in the face of AMD saying Socket AM4 would be supported through 2020, some board manufacturers used smaller ROM chips than they should have, which created problems with Ryzen 3xxx compatibility. Thank God these board manufacturers have stepped up to solve this issue by selling new motherboards...

You are right. Mofo mobo manufacturers surely suffer financially from backward compatibility, but AMD is also at fault here, as they didn't exercise tight control of the whole ecosystem. You know, making good CPU is just half of the story.

moob · Jul 19, 2019

Metroid said:
The problem may lie ahead, you will be stuck with that bios and any future updates to it even if there are unfixable things cause it requires a larger bios. Raid support is broken, msi says it will return, not sure about that.

As my dude said above, it's supposedly fixed already on my board as well. Though I don't use RAID so I can't test it: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC

eidairaman1 · Jul 20, 2019

This is why SPI should be socketed

hat said:
If I'm not mistaken, the issue was that, in the face of AMD saying Socket AM4 would be supported through 2020, some board manufacturers used smaller ROM chips than they should have, which created problems with Ryzen 3xxx compatibility. Thank God these board manufacturers have stepped up to solve this issue by selling new motherboards...

Its MSI's fault for their bias

MortalKombat · Jul 21, 2019

There are 16 mb memory and $ 0.70 difference between the two motherboards. So all that user satisfaction was sacrificed to make more profits of $ 0.70 dollars? (Is it a fool made to lower the cost of $ 0.70 in the previous version?) MSI users are probably responsible for all of this! The company is well managed! (The company is releasing the new Max version.) But the MAX version does not correct the shortcomings of the previous version, taking into account user comments. The USB version does not add innovations, except to upgrade. They could increase the number of more USB ports, add PCIE 4.0, etc.( It only needs one signal change and the BIOS version and PCIE 4.0) But this could not be done either. Who runs this company? Company management acting recklessly and unpredictable! Even a child can run this company better.

Ergastolano · Jul 21, 2019

Very good news. Thanks

eidairaman1 · Jul 21, 2019

Just learn how to implement a SPI socket on the mobo.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw3niVGFQqg_TBnpCP916YbX&cshid=1563750242369

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biffzinker · Jul 22, 2019

eidairaman1 said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw3niVGFQqg_TBnpCP916YbX&cshid=1563750242369[/URL]

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If you do not want to visit that page, you can return to the previous page.

eidairaman1 · Jul 22, 2019

Try it
www.thelabeshop.com/files/5/3106/Universal_SPI_Pin_Header.pdf

Ergastolano · Aug 4, 2019

Do you have news about the availability for the MAX, especially the B450M Mortar Max? Some US/EU shop have it?

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