Dozens of GIGABYTE Intel 400-series Chipset Motherboards Show Up at the EEC

[btarunr]

Intel is inching closer to the launch of its socket LGA1200 mainstream desktop platform based on its 400-series chipset and 14 nm "Comet Lake-S" silicon. The platform provides a forward upgrade path to the company's 10 nm "Ice Lake-S" processors when they come out. "Comet Lake-S" is a derivative of the "Skylake" microarchitecture that's been scaled up to 10 CPU cores, and HyperThreading enabled across the board, with clock speeds pushed to the limits of the 14 nm silicon fabrication process. The TDP of some of these parts is reportedly set as high as 125 W. GIGABYTE is ready with dozens of motherboards for these processors, based on one of five chipsets - Z490, H470, Q470, B460, and H410.

The Intel Z490 Express will be the top-end chipset geared toward gamers and enthusiasts wanting to overclock their processors. The H470 will be a slight step down, and possibly lack multi-GPU and CPU overclocking support. The Q470 is its twin with certain enterprise-relevant features. The B460 is the mid-range chipset, targeting a spectrum of users including gamers who don't overclock their CPU. The H410 will be the entry-level chipset for everyone else. What's interesting about GIGABYTE's list of motherboards filed for regulatory clearance from the Eurasian Economic Commission, is that is looks partial. There are far too few AORUS-branded products.



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[biffzinker]

The H470 will be a slight step down, and possibly lack multi-GPU and CPU overclocking support.

Same old Intel sticking to their usual tactics of product segmentation. Meanwhile AMD doesn't block overclocking on the next chipset down (B350/B450) in their product stack.

 

[notb]

Same old Intel sticking to their usual tactics of product segmentation. Meanwhile AMD doesn't block overclocking on the next chipset down (B350/B450) in their product stack.

For now
Not so long ago I've seen a very similar sentence on this forum about SMT being available on all Ryzen.

Intel has the market share and they focus on making money.
AMD fights for the market share, but as it grows, they'll become more and more like the company you criticize so much.

 

[biffzinker]

With renewed competition from AMD you would think Intel might re-adjust their strategy though. How long has the Pentium lineup been without at least AVX, and stuck as dual core?

 

[Space Lynx]

For now
Not so long ago I've seen a very similar sentence on this forum about SMT being available on all Ryzen.

Intel has the market share and they focus on making money.
AMD fights for the market share, but as it grows, they'll become more and more like the company you criticize so much.

I do recall this as well and AMD event that stated hyperthreading/SMT would be available on all Ryzen chips. I don't believe that statement lasted past first generation, then they took a lot of bad silicon and made 4 core no thread chips for super cheap. Don't have the time to find the link at the moment, but all the companies lie or "twist their words" similar to a politician. Technically they didn't lie... but yeah, the wording is a bit tricky sometimes. lol

That being said, I am leaning towards AMD still. Just waiting a bit longer for drivers to mature some more.

 

[1d10t]

Z490M
Z490M DS3H
Z490M Gaming X

Oh come on Gigabyte, you gonna release 3 decent high end micro ATX board for Intel but no love towards AMD ?

 

[dj-electric]

Oh come on Gigabyte, you gonna release 3 decent high end micro ATX board for Intel but no love towards AMD ?

High end? These models are very budget oriented. Also, making Intel MATX boards is an easier engineering choice, so AIBs choose to do it.
They didn't wanna double down on B450 to make good chunky MATX boards, and decided to leave this chipset with cheap offerings, so there's that.

 

[JAB Creations]

H -- 410
B -- 460
H and Q -- 470
Z -- 490

I am convinced that the marketing people at Intel are on drugs.

 

[bug]

Come on, Intel. I understand (and repeatedly posted here) that forward chipset compatibility is a pita. But a fourth chipset for Skylake? Really?
The real kicker is it's not the chipset that's redundant here, it's the Comet Lake CPUs.

 

[1d10t]

High end? These models are very budget oriented. Also, making Intel MATX boards is an easier engineering choice, so AIBs choose to do it.
They didn't wanna double down on B450 to make good chunky MATX boards, and decided to leave this chipset with cheap offerings, so there's that.

I thought Z series were considered as high end counterpart for Intel mainstream, no? So in that regard, I still assuming they are high end, unless price is subject to distinguished between budget and high end.
About Intel mATX boards been easier to build, can you give me explanation or link, cause that doesn't make sense.If you said market saturation still favoring Intel however, I get the point
Gigabyte has mATX board for Ryzen, but I'm feeling like they half ass build it. AX370M and Aorus B450M are prime example, hindered by bad VRM, insufficient cooling and terrible BIOS

 

[Turmania]

I have a good feeling that they will re introduce hyper threading in their i5 and i7 line processors maybe even in i3 and along with a little speed increase. nothing new but better nevertheless.

 

[biffzinker]

I have a good feeling that they will re introduce hyper threading in their i5 and i7 line processors maybe even in i3 and along with a little speed increase. nothing new but better nevertheless.

The Skylake core has too many security issues. One of the side channel attacks involved HT so I doubt it's coming back until Intel moves to Sunny Cove. Besides with up to ten cores HT isn't a must have.

 

[john_]

New chipsets and motherboards for old processors.

 

[bug]

New chipsets and motherboards for old processors.

I doubt there's anything new in there, besides the support for higher TDP.

 

[windwhirl]

GIGABYTE is ready with dozens of motherboards

I'll never understand how they and everyone else can make so many different models for one freaking socket. Gigabyte has 181 mobos for socket 1150, 160 for the 1151... The only exception being HEDT platform, which has somewhere around a dozen at most for the most long-lived socket...

 

[notb]

I do recall this as well and AMD event that stated hyperthreading/SMT would be available on all Ryzen chips.

I'm not going through all AMD's statements and presentations, but the idea must have came from somewhere.

That being said, I am leaning towards AMD still. Just waiting a bit longer for drivers to mature some more.

By all means: I'm not saying AMD is doing anything wrong here.
They made a well performing chip and they got traction in the "enthusiast" segment (including favorable reviews).

But this strategy will not give them mainstream success.
And as they become more and more like Intel, it will be interesting to observe how the hardcore fanbase reacts.

 

[efikkan]

Do we have any sources claiming the 400-series provides an upgrade path to Ice Lake?
It's a good chance it does, but I haven't seen those details.

 

[notb]

I'll never understand how they and everyone else can make so many different models for one freaking socket.

Why?
There are many components and many properties. They make many combinations.
And since plexi cases became popular, we're also getting mobos with different colour schemes.

The only exception being HEDT platform, which has somewhere around a dozen at most for the most long-lived socket...

Hardly anyone buys them. There's no point in making more.