1. All suffix-U CPUs from AMD are 15W.
2700U,2500U,3700U,3500U,2200U, etc.
Lower battery life, but AMD do make those.
2. Chipset drivers were made by AMD, though not updated by oems.
Graphics drivers were not offered by AMD for a long time, but were made by AMD.
Chipset drivers can also be downloaded from amd.com for laptops.
3. My system is fully stable with the latest drivers. APU system.
1.) I missed the TDP oficially being 15 watt, but much like the "127" watt TDP for the 9900ks, its a meaningless number. AMD's chips pulled way too much power compared to intel, so they were unattractive for mobile usage, where power usage is really important. AMD's APU customers, whom want the better iGPU, are a tiny minority of laptop customers.
2. Chipset drivers and GPU drivers for laptops can be downloaded for AMD laptops TODAY, but not when the ryzen APUs first came out. This was a major critcism of AMD, and you can look up reviews of these machines to see this criticizm reflected by reviewers, that OEMs were responsible for writing complete driver packages and changing AMD's drivers to match their systems, rather then AMD putting out a generic chipset driver like they had with their previous mobile chipsets going back to the early 2000s, and like intel has done since the 90s. There are threads on reddit, OC.net, and even this very site complaining about the issue.
3. Congratulations, but that's 2 years later, and anecdotal evidence (just because YOUR system works fine, does not mean a problem doesnt exist. There are 3rd gen focus drivers out there that dont have transmission problems, but the vast majority of their foci DO have problems, hence their horrible reputation). First gen ryzen APUs did NOT have stable drivers, that scared away customers as well as OEMs. AMD flip flopped on this decision and started releasing drivers themselves again, but if you are an OEM you need consistent support, not schizophrenic driver support/lack of support that changes every generation. AMD cant seem to figure this out. They shot themselves in the foot in the mobile space, and are now back at square 1 for OEM confidence, and will need to build that reputation back up again.
I don’t think it was a matter of being cheap, I think it was a matter of not having a lot of operational money to do it. AMD was, after all, running on damn near a shoestring budget. Now that AMD is actually making some money with the Zen platform they may have additional money to play with.
See above.
If AMD did not have the resources to support a product, theyshpould not be trying to sell said product.
If nvidia or intel released a set of chips, didnt provide any drivers, and as a result the products using them sucked, you would say that is a bad move on intel/nvidia's part. But for AMD? oh no, the poor babies just didnt have the money; they're the underdog!!! If you release a product, and you dont support that product because you dont have money, and think of a hair-brained scheme to make other companies support your product for you, for free, you are both cheap and incompetent. If AMD cpould not support ryzen mobile, they never should have put the money into them! These kinds of actions are why AMD has a negative association with many power users, because they half-ass things they should NEVER half ass.
It doesnt matter if you are making CPUs, washing machines, TVs, any type of electronic, cars, or other physical good. If you cant support it, dont try to sell it, because it is going to blow up in your face when you cant fix these problems, and that investment cash would be better suited to go into the product lines you are actually achieving some success in.
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