Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7 iGPU Beats AMD RX Vega 10: Benchmarks

[btarunr]

Intel is taking big strides forward with its Gen11 integrated graphics architecture. Its performance-configured variant, the Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7, featured in the Core i7-1065G7 "Ice Lake" processor, is found to beat AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 iGPU, found in the Ryzen 7 2700U processor ("Raven Ridge"), by as much as 16 percent in 3DMark 11, a staggering 23 percent in 3DMark FireStrike 1080p. Notebook Check put the two iGPUs through these, and a few game tests to derive an initial verdict that Intel's iGPU has caught up with AMD's RX Vega 10. AMD has since updated its iGPU incrementally with the "Picasso" silicon, providing it with higher clock speeds and updated display and multimedia engines.

The machines tested here are the Lenovo Ideapad S540-14API for the AMD chip, and Lenovo Yoga C940-14IIL with the i7-1065G7. The Iris Plus G7 packs 64 Gen11 execution units, while the Radeon RX Vega 10 has 640 stream processors based on the "Vega" architecture. Over in the gaming performance, and we see the Intel iGPU 2 percent faster than the RX Vega 10 at Bioshock Infinite at 1080p, 12 percent slower at Dota 2 Reborn 1080p, and 8 percent faster at XPlane 11.11.



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[Mussels]

Hooray, intel graphics is finally 1080p capable for gaming!

(I'll mock IGP all day long, but if the TDP is low enough for tablet/surface/ultrabook usage, i'm all for them getting gaming capabilities at low heat/power use)

 

[ZoneDymo]

I can only applaude this, good stuff; like I said before, it would be nice if you can deploy this IGPU for some good quality/performance hit free livestreaming using Quicktime.
Now lets hope their dedicated GPU is also worth a damn.

I can only applaud this, good stuff; like I said before, it would be nice if you can deploy this IGPU for some good quality/performance hit free livestreaming using Quicktime.
Now lets hope their dedicated GPU is also worth a damn.

 

[Crackong]

My 1065G7 did this.

That's 550 vs 835 in the review, a 52% difference.
WHY ?

 

[Zubasa]

My 1065G7 did this.


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That's 550 vs 835 in the review, a 52% difference.
WHY ?

All IGPs are pretty much memory bottle-necked.
The Lenovo C940 runs LPDDR4X which goes up to DDR4 4266.
Meanwhile the Lenovo S540 that houses the Vega 10 runs DDR4 2400, and even single channel in some configs.
There are also things like TDP limit setting that Intel can fudge with to get that score that is "technically possible".
As in every Intel released benchmark, you need to take everything with an ocean full of salt.

 

[geon2k2]

My 1065G7 did this.


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That's 550 vs 835 in the review, a 52% difference.
WHY ?

Look at the total memory.
It says module 1.
Add one more 8GB memory module if your computer allows it and you will get that 50% jump in gpu performance.
You need to run dual channel for iGPU performance.

 

[Frick]

Hooray, intel graphics is finally 1080p capable for gaming!

(I'll mock IGP all day long, but if the TDP is low enough for tablet/surface/ultrabook usage, i'm all for them getting gaming capabilities at low heat/power use)

I’m just hoping for the day when all new laptops have at least some gaming capabilites.

This is good.

 

[Veradun]

A laptops review without said laptops' full specs is as useless as a 3kg keychain

 

[Apocalypsee]

Now I know the problem, the laptop Ryzen APU is limited to DDR4-2400MHz while the i7-1065G7 in this review uses LPDDR4X-3733MHz. That is a massive memory bandwidth advantage on the Intel side.

 

[john_]

Good to see Intel being able to create an iGPU that can utilize the bandwidth of a dual channel DDR4 3733 memory and the high IPC of the Intel core. But probably that's what is all that it does. When you throw it at a more GPU bound scenario it doesn't look like it can beat the Vega 10 (Bioshock and Dota 2, 1080p, Ultra tests).

 

[Veradun]

Now I know the problem, the laptop Ryzen APU is limited to DDR4-2400MHz while the i7-1065G7 uses LPDDR4X-3733MHz. That is a massive memory bandwidth advantage on the Intel side.

Looking at the specs of that specific laptop on Lenovo's website it appears to be using DDR4-2666. Still it can be configured with a single 8GB SoDIMM or 4GB soldered and a 4GB SoDIMM. The question is: are they testing in single channel?

 

[Apocalypsee]

Looking at the specs of that specific laptop on Lenovo's website it appears to be using DDR4-2666. Still it can be configured with a single 8GB SoDIMM or 4GB soldered and a 4GB SoDIMM. The question is: are they testing in single channel?

I'm reading the review itself, it was cited as source in mainpage. In case you missed it:

Intel strikes back: Core i7-1065G7 with Iris Plus Graphics G7 on par with AMD Radeon RX Vega 10

Intel's new Ice Lake processors promise significant performance improvements for the integrated GPU. The version of the Core i7-1065G7 with 64 shader units is particularly interesting and is supposed to close the gap to AMD or even beat the Vega GPUs. We have the first benchmarks of the GPU...

www.notebookcheck.net

 

[Rebe1]

Nice that Intel is finally reaching iVega performance (Zen+), however AFAIK Renoir (Zen 2 APU) is behind the corner

 

[yeeeeman]

Gen12 can't come soon enough. Hope they improved the architecture again from Gen11 cause Gen 11 was supposed to appear in 2017 if things would have worked for Intel on the manufacturing side.

 

[Imsochobo]

Nice that Intel is finally reaching iVega performance (Zen+), however AFAIK Renoir (Zen 2 APU) is behind the corner

isn't the ideapad single channel ?..... useful comparison.

 

[Crackong]

Look at the total memory.
It says module 1.
Add one more 8GB memory module if your computer allows it and you will get that 50% jump in gpu performance.
You need to run dual channel for iGPU performance.

I supposed Intel iGPU connects the CPU with ringbus not RAM..................

 

[jabbadap]

I supposed Intel iGPU connects the CPU with ringbus not RAM..................

What laptop? Is it configured for stock 15W TDP or TDP up at 25W. There will be differences between laptops:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Gamin...15-W-version-according-to-Intel.434412.0.html

isn't the ideapad single channel ?..... useful comparison.

You mean the Ryzen one? It's in dual channel at the tested configuration:

Spoiler

 

[ShurikN]

Vega 10 system is running in Dual Channel mode with 4GB soldered and 4GB DIMM at 2400MHZ

 

[Veradun]

I'm reading the review itself, it was cited as source in mainpage. In case you missed it:

Intel strikes back: Core i7-1065G7 with Iris Plus Graphics G7 on par with AMD Radeon RX Vega 10

Intel's new Ice Lake processors promise significant performance improvements for the integrated GPU. The version of the Core i7-1065G7 with 64 shader units is particularly interesting and is supposed to close the gap to AMD or even beat the Vega GPUs. We have the first benchmarks of the GPU...

www.notebookcheck.net

I didn't miss the link, but I did in fact missed this:

"All laptops with iGPUs are equipped with dual-channel memory, so the results are comparable. "

Vega 10 system is running in Dual Channel mode with 4GB soldered and 4GB DIMM at 2400MHZ

On Lenovo's product page that system uses DDR4-2666, where did you find that 2400? Are they using a preproduction sample?

 

[ShurikN]

I didn't miss the link, but I did in fact missed this:

"All laptops with iGPUs are equipped with dual-channel memory, so the results are comparable. "



On Lenovo's product page that system uses DDR4-2666, where did you find that 2400? Are they using a preproduction sample?

From the review of the 2 Ideapads

 

[jabbadap]

I didn't miss the link, but I did in fact missed this:

"All laptops with iGPUs are equipped with dual-channel memory, so the results are comparable. "

On Lenovo's product page that system uses DDR4-2666, where did you find that 2400? Are they using a preproduction sample?

Well AMD specs R7 3700u at 2400MHz memory and vendors usually goes for specs. In notebookcheck review all info gathering softwares says it's 1200MHz memory, thus it's running on 2400MHz DDR. Albeit one screen says that lenovo indeed uses 2666MHz Sodimm, but all others monitoring softwares suggest that it is running at the AMD specced 2400MHZ speed.

Spoiler

 

[Crackong]

What laptop? Is it configured for stock 15W TDP or TDP up at 25W. There will be differences between laptops:

The Laptop has a 19W PL1 and 46W PL2 .

 

[Veradun]

From the review of the 2 Ideapads

Thanks

Well AMD specs R7 3700u at 2400MHz memory and vendors usually goes for specs. In notebookcheck review all info gathering softwares says it's 1200MHz memory, thus it's running on 2400MHz DDR. Albeit one screen says that lenovo indeed uses 2666MHz Sodimm, but all others monitoring softwares suggest that it is running at the AMD specced 2400MHZ speed.

Spoiler

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They probably use 2666 ram that's probably the bulk of production (i.e. lowest prices) but configure them at 2400 since it's the CPU jedec spec, then

 

[Brusfantomet]

So the new, best implementation from Intel is capable of beating the second best from AMD?
That is before you use the horrible mess that is intel graphics drivers, in my experience at least.
Remember that there is a Vega 11, even available in a laptop configuration, Ryzen 7 2800H that supports 3200 MHz DDR4 ram.
Raven Ridge lanced 18 moths ago.[/URL]

 

[Xaled]

1- Losing against your opponent?
2- Exccessive needless care about GPUs?
3- Focusing on making a GPU that is way behind the market and try to put it inside your CPU? (Really why?)
Does anyone feels the repeating of what AMD went through just before its dark years?